Order. There are several members who are participating in the discussion without having been granted the floor. The Chair needs to hear these types of arguments so the Chair can make a decision that will serve the House well. The key to that is that I need to be able to hear them and not hear members who are not actually recognized by the Chair.
If members have things they want to say, I suggest they go outside into the lobby, and they can say whatever they want, but not in the Chamber.
The hon. government House leader is making a point that I would like to hear.