Madam Speaker, I believe the hon. member is comparing apples and oranges. In fact, the secret ballot is triggered if less than 50% of the employees choose not to sign the card, and if under 35%, the request to unionize is rejected by the board. I think the member knows that.
The challenge is that when a secret ballot is used, the employer has a head start, if you will, and the employer has applied undue pressure—