Madam Chair, the member talked about innovation, and I can assure him that NorSask Forest Products is one of the most modern, technological companies in the country. It has advanced its technology at incredible speeds.
My challenge is that the $20 billion is not there to pay dividends to the first nations communities, and it is also not there to invest in new and better technologies at the same time. That money can be used for capital investment and for dividends. When we do not have either, we have a problem.