House of Commons Hansard #11 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was hospital.

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4:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Madam Speaker, we are all deeply concerned about these attacks on health care workers, particularly those who are already suffering through the pandemic, as they are on the front lines. We have certainly seen it across the country at hospitals and with paramedics.

It now looks as though the anti-vax extremists are shifting gear and moving away from hospitals. We saw a horrific incident in Edmonton this past weekend where they attacked a toy store. The idea of these brutes showing up at a toy store at Christmastime with their anti-vax conspiracies suggests to me there is something more insidious taking place with extremist behaviour in Canada.

How do we as parliamentarians start addressing this if, after we protect our hospitals and frontline workers, they decide to shift to schools or toy stores? This is a serious issue. I would ask my hon. colleague for his comments.

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Liberal

Taleeb Noormohamed Liberal Vancouver Granville, BC

Madam Speaker, the hon. member is absolutely right. It is becoming insidious. During the last election, many of these very same protesters chose to attack our office. They harassed young people who were volunteering in the office. They intimidated people who were trying to come to have conversations with us.

I think all of us need to do exactly what the hon. member said. We need to recognize that this is a very serious and real problem. It is going to require all of us to come together, regardless of the party we belong to, to say with a firm voice that it is unacceptable to harass people this way, particularly when we are talking about our health care workers and when it comes to giving children a hard time. It is unacceptable as Canadians for us to think that, in this day and age, we would obstruct these people from doing what they are trying to do, which is help Canadians stay healthy.

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4:45 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

Order. It is my duty pursuant to Standing Order 38 to inform the House that the questions to be raised tonight at the time of adjournment are as follows: the hon. member for Victoria, The Environment; the hon. member for Langley—Aldergrove, Infrastructure; the hon. member for Fort McMurray—Cold Lake, The Economy.

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December 6th, 2021 / 4:45 p.m.

Nickel Belt Ontario

Liberal

Marc Serré LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Official Languages

Madam Speaker, first let me congratulate you on your appointment.

I would also like to take this opportunity, in this 44th Parliament, to sincerely thank the constituents of Nickel Belt for placing their trust in me for a third time. I also want to thank my wife, Lynn, for her unconditional support. It is not always easy to be the spouse of a member of the House of Commons. We also work very hard in the community. I want to give a big thank you to my mother, family, all the many volunteers who worked in the community, and my staff, Rebecca, Anne, Kaylie, Sheri, Sabrina and Stéphanie, for their support.

It is an honour to follow in my father's footsteps as the member for Nickel Belt and also to take up my new duties as the parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Official Languages.

Today, I am pleased to speak to Bill C-3, an act to amend the Criminal Code and the Canada Labour Code, at second reading stage.

Bill C-3 proposes reforms to the Criminal Code that would respond to the issues that have come to the forefront of the pandemic. The bill would seek to enhance protection to health workers and those who need their services at a critical time in Canada. I firmly believe that the proposed reforms show restraint in dealing with the very difficult circumstances that have arisen, particularly due to the small minority of COVID-19-related deniers and individuals engaging in serious and harmful conduct during anti-vaccination protests targeting the health sector and, as indicated earlier, retail and other sectors. I am proud of the way this government has dealt with this issue.

Bill C-3 proposes reforms that are targeted in nature and demonstrate the utmost respect for our Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Today, I would like to speak about the events that we have all witnessed and that have led us to this important reform to criminal law. I will also speak to why our government’s commitment to enact these reforms is crucial in protecting not only our health care workers, but each and every Canadian who is in need of health services.

Currently, the Criminal Code provides a wide range of general responses to threats, intimidation and other forms of violence directed at all persons. However, new explicit offences are critical to send a clear message that such conduct is never appropriate.

We have all seen what has been reported in the media, stories about health workers being targeted directly and threatened over social media platforms, including Twitter, because of their work in promoting public health measures and treating those fallen ill to the pandemic. Health care facilities across the country were specifically targeted last summer and early fall, with images and reports of some ambulances being surrounded by a crowd and health care professionals being confronted when accessing their workplaces, as well as patients needing police escorts to access certain facilities.

In a November 5 tweet by Anthony Dale, president of the Ontario Hospital Association, he reported that one hospital CEO had received death threats because of the implementation of a mandatory vaccination policy. Other physicians and medical associations are reporting death threats against health care professionals. I am deeply troubled by these accounts.

Vaccine misinformation has unfortunately caused many to distrust and attack the medical community.

Examples are popping up near my riding of Nickel Belt and other parts of northern Ontario. Recently, Dr. Gretchen Roedde, a family physician from Latchford, a small community in northern Ontario, was victimized online, at home and reported by a growing anti-vaccination movement. Dr. Roedde has given in to these pressures and has decided to close her practice, leaving many in the community without adequate care. This is a chilling reminder of the challenges faced by our health care providers.

The Ontario Medical Association, OMA, and the Canadian Medical Association, CMA, have recently said that abuse and harassment of doctors during the pandemic is growing and is unacceptable.

Another worrisome trend we are seeing is that parents and children going to vaccination clinics are being subjected to threats and intimidation. On November 28, a woman from North Bay went to one of these clinics with her seven-year-old son, who had just become eligible for the COVID-19 vaccine. She later reported that she had been subjected to a torrent of verbal abuse from anti-vax protesters while entering and leaving the clinic. The protesters went so far as to shout that she was committing genocide and poisoning her son, and they yelled out false information about the vaccine in front of the seven-year-old child. Such behaviour must stop.

I know that the members of the House support the right to protest. However, we must all agree that this is neither the way nor the place to do it. It is totally unacceptable.

While I believe all Canadians accept that we have differences of opinion, very few Canadians accept this behaviour toward health workers and people who try to obtain health care services. While the charter protects the right to express opinions and conduct peaceful protests, it does not protect against violent forms of speech and activity. I am confident the bill reflects the rights and freedoms enshrined in the charter by ensuring that activity that is purely for the purposes of communicating a message and that remains peaceful is not criminalized.

We must ensure that every Canadian can safely get vaccinated, especially children who are now eligible for the vaccine. Every Canadian also deserves to have safe access to essential health services and not fear being attacked or intimidated as they make their way to a hospital or vaccination clinic. This bill is about federal leadership to ensure that our health care heroes can safely do their jobs, free from obstruction, intimidation and threats.

I would like to touch on another matter that is important to me and many in our country. We cannot forget the significant struggles and hardship that women have faced, both legally and practically, in accessing abortion services. Many of those challenges continue, as women encounter barriers in accessing abortion services, including aggressive, intimidating, disturbing and even violent anti-abortion protest activity. Abortion service providers and their families have also been subject to similar conduct in Canada during its history. The bill applies to health services in general and the amendments will support and protect women in making their decisions for their own bodies without obstruction, intimidation or fear.

The bill would also make it an offence to impede another person from accessing health care facilities. No one should be prevented from accessing health care.

I firmly believe that the Criminal Code amendments proposed in Bill C-3 are imperative to give protections to those who undertake to care for Canadians during their most dire time of need. There is no doubt that Bill C-3 proposes reforms that are carefully crafted and responsive to the harms facing the health sector in Canada.

For those reasons, I urge all members to support Bill C-3.

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4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Madam Speaker, the member talked about how this bill very clearly articulated some of the challenges that existed, but on Friday, November 26, the Minister of Justice said that the challenges the bill tried to address were not a new problem. As I read through the bill and some of the challenges it attempts to address, terminology like “minor disturbances” raises concerns. There is a lack of clarity—

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4:55 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

Somebody who is online virtually seems to have the microphone on. I would ask those online to be very mindful of whether their microphone or video is on.

The hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot with a brief ending to his question.

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4:55 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Madam Speaker, I have no doubt that the member was passionately suggesting that he had the the same question I do.

I have some concerns about how terminology like “minor disturbances” might be widely interpreted. It is a term that could be very subjective. I wonder if the member has any comments about that term and maybe some of the other challenges where in committee this terminology might be able to be tightened up.

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5 p.m.

Liberal

Marc Serré Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

Madam Speaker, I thank the member for the work he is done on the health side.

As to the question about terminology in the bill, that is why we have to get it to committee. Then we can look at specific concerns about certain terminology, the legal terminology, which is why it is important to get this through the House. At the committee level, I am looking forward to ensuring we review some of this terminology and make it right. We will work together to ensure the legislation passes.

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5 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Madam Speaker, I want to start by congratulating my colleague opposite on being appointed Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Official Languages. He can count on the Bloc Québécois to keep him busy with work.

Bill C‑3 does not really change things, since the offences that the government claims are being added to the Criminal Code already exist. They are not being added.

What this bill does do, however, is bring in harsher penalties for some criminal offences. Paradoxically, in 2018, the Liberal government introduced Bill C‑75, which, unlike today's bill, was designed to reclassify about a hundred offences to relax the penalties.

How does the Liberal government justify or explain this about-face? Is it just following the latest trends and keeping with the times, or did it have an epiphany about the need to make the punishment fit the crime?

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5 p.m.

Liberal

Marc Serré Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

Madam Speaker, I thank my hon. colleague. I look forward to working with him on the official languages file as we take a closer look at the status of French across Canada, including in francophone minority communities.

Regarding Bill C‑3, a question about terminology has already been raised. This bill offers progress on the health care file. Some things have been split off and others have been brought in, such as provisions governing court decisions.

I look forward to working with my colleague in committee as we examine certain details and make sure we improve this bill to protect health care workers.

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5 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Madam Speaker, I appreciate my hon. colleague recognizing Dr. Gretchen Roedde, who gave up her practice because of harassment. I called her before the story broke. I could not believe how tired and dispirited she was. This is a woman who has gone through child soldier roadblocks in Africa to get medical supplies, a doctor who would take the freighter canoes up Lake Temagami. She has never been tired or intimidated and she loves the north.

I want to ask my colleague what he thinks is happening when in small towns like ours, this kind of disinformation and extremism is causing such damage to front-line medical workers like Dr. Roedde, paramedics and the nurses who are just so tired of what they have faced throughout the pandemic.

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5 p.m.

Liberal

Marc Serré Liberal Nickel Belt, ON

Madam Speaker, I thank the hon. member for the work he does in all of northern Ontario. I do not have a specific answer other than I know people have anxiety and are concerned. Social media plays a role with hate and misinformation, which we have to address. In smaller areas, maybe rural towns, the reliance on social media is probably more prevalent, but we have to find ways together at the federal, provincial and municipal levels to ensure we look at the misinformation being shared through social media.

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5 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Madam Speaker, one of the first privileges we have when rising in these opening weeks of a new Parliament session is to be granted the opportunity to acknowledge the honour that has been bestowed upon us by our respective constituents as either newly elected or re-elected members of Parliament.

With the Speaker's indulgence, allow me to begin my intervention, as many of us already have, with a brief reflection on the deep gratitude I owe to the people of Hamilton Centre, who have put their trust in me to return to this 44th Parliament to continue the important work of ensuring that the working-class values of Hamilton Centre continue to be well represented in the House of Commons—

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5 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

Order. The hon. member for Drummond on a point of order.

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5 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Madam Speaker, there is no interpretation, and I wonder if that might be because my colleague is not wearing the headset required by the House of Commons, which may be a problem for the interpreters.

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

I too thought there was something different about the sound.

I am not sure if the problem is because of the headset the hon. member is using. It does sound different at this end, so there is a problem with interpretation. The member might want to unplug his headset and then plug it in again to see if the computer is picking up the right microphone.

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Madam Speaker, is this better now?

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

The sound is not good enough.

I have some points of order to address.

The hon. member for Battle River—Crowfoot.

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5:05 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Madam Speaker, I understand the member's frustration. I would simply ask for unanimous consent to allow him to switch places with the next speaker. That would give him 15 minutes or so to work with IT in order to figure out the technical difficulty and address it accordingly.

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

I have another point of order before I go back to the hon. member for Hamilton Centre.

The hon. member for New Westminster—Burnaby.

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP New Westminster—Burnaby, BC

Madam Speaker, if we are not able to sort out the technical problems for the member for Hamilton Centre, we have the member for Courtenay—Alberni, who would be prepared to take his place and give a speech. We would not agree to passing on the NDP slot for this important debate.

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

We are going to try one more time.

The hon. member for Hamilton Centre.

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

Matthew Green NDP Hamilton Centre, ON

Madam Speaker, I appreciate your indulgence and the suggestion from the hon. member from the Conservative side. Is my microphone okay now?

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5:05 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

No, it is not working. The hon. member will have to get a House of Commons headset.

There is a point of order from the member for Don Valley East.

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5:05 p.m.

Liberal

Michael Coteau Liberal Don Valley East, ON

Madam Speaker, can you explain what the problem is? I can hear him perfectly.