House of Commons Hansard #358 of the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was documents.

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NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to rise on such an important initiative, which came directly from parliamentarians, from MPs, and speaks directly to some of the most horrific experiences of our youngest citizens who are engaged in sport, something that we as Canadians believe is important. I want to acknowledge the tireless work of so many and the strength of so many survivors who came forward to take part in the safe sports study. I want to acknowledge the tireless work of many advocates, those in research and academia and those who have been involved in sport, who want to support the survivors coming forward and work, very much, toward effecting long-lasting, systemic change when it comes to sport in our country.

I want to acknowledge the work of my own colleague who was the lead on this committee from the NDP. My colleague, the MP for New Westminster—Burnaby, along with others, put in many hours to make sure that this report was of the highest quality and that critical recommendations were made on how we need to go forward. I believe that, first and foremost, the importance of a national public inquiry is critical.

We in the NDP are clear. There must be a national public inquiry into safe sport. We have heard that from survivors, advocates, and those in academia. We have heard it from people who want change. It is deeply disappointing to see that the Liberals, despite their commitments to integrity and fair play, do not actually support a public inquiry into safe sport. Before I go any further, I would like to reflect on some of what we heard from the report.

On May 26, 2022, a story was published by Rick Westhead regarding an out-of-court settlement made by Hockey Canada to women who had been sexually assaulted by a group of hockey players on the 2017-18 national junior team in London, Ontario, after a gala. Five players, Dillon Dube, Carter Hart, Michael McLeod, Cal Foote and Alex Formenton, are now facing jail time.

One hundred and four witnesses spoke to the committee, but it was that story, that bomb that went off, that really underscored not just the horrors within our sport system, the level of abuse and, in this case, sexual violence or sexual assault oftentimes targeted at women, but also the way in which our sport system, sport organizations and sport officials turned a blind eye while fully knowing that this kind of abuse and horror had taken place under their watch.

This is not what sport should be about. Canadians rightfully love sports. In the case of hockey, which is oftentimes referred to as our national sport, even though, of course, lacrosse is our national sport, the fact is that hockey was tarnished by these stories of abuse that came forward. The way that Hockey Canada dealt with this abuse was shocking to so many Canadians

We have all grown up with hockey as part of our lives. Here in northern Canada, it has been a key part of the lives of many boys, girls, young men and young women. It is part of our fond memories as we grew up, such as the more recent one of Sid calling out for Iggy to score the Olympic winning goal, or sitting with friends, and maybe family, on a Saturday night to cheer on Canada's team. However, it is clear that the culture that surrounds hockey needs fixing. For too long, we have put young boys on a pedestal, especially within junior hockey, expecting boys to act like men without giving them the supports necessary to be their best selves.

It should be clear to anyone who has been reading the sports sections of the newspapers over the last couple of years that harassment and abuse are sadly endemic to high-level sports in this country. We would be remiss to ignore the all-too-common pressures that athletes face to play or practise with some pretty serious injuries. It is only in the last couple of years that sports have even begun to take seriously things like brain injuries, especially when dealing with minors. There is no question that this needs to change.

Hockey culture in particular admires Patrice Bergeron for suiting up in game six of a playoff game with a small puncture in his lung, a cracked rib, torn rib cartilage and a separated shoulder. The careers of Carey Price, Shea Weber and Paul Byron ultimately ended after the injuries they faced in the Habs' run to the Stanley Cup that ultimately came up short in 2021. We admire their courage and tolerance for pain but ignore the lifelong cost.

Shea Weber recently opened up about his post-career quality of life. After a charity softball tournament, he could not walk for two weeks. Carey Price, an inspiration for so many, even in my riding, talked about how his forced retirement contributed to descending deeper into a drinking problem that he has since gotten help for. Athletes sacrifice their bodies, but in many cases, we are talking about kids. It is often too big a sacrifice they do not fully understand, and they are surrounded by adults who do not take their long-term health seriously, which needs changing.

Even since the completion of this study, we are reminded of a culture that needs fixing. Just recently, Rick Westhead, who along with Katie Strang led a lot of the reporting that forced Canadians to start being honest about a broken culture that needs fixing, wrote about an incident, this one in 2014, where a woman was allegedly sexually assaulted by eight OHL players. She decided to come forward after watching a press conference where the London chief of police apologized for not appropriately dealing with the sexual assault by team Canada players.

She had been invited to watch TV with a 19-year-old player. When she arrived, there were eight players in the basement, aged 16 to 19. Here are her words:

I was taken into a bathroom. And that's when the player who invited me over began...starting sexual acts. They never closed the bathroom door fully.... And then next thing I know more players start coming in. There's players standing and watching. They start taking their turns, doing whatever it is they want. I never told anyone because I thought it was my fault. I thought I was the one that was responsible because I had made the choice to go hang out with this guy and a buddy.... I did what I could to just forget it, not think about it, wipe it away. But it just built up inside in the back of my brain....

When she went to the police in London to report the incident earlier this year, she was told they could not help her. Hockey Canada responded to this reporting by saying that it was out of Hockey Canada's hands and to use the appropriate CHL league. The cycle of violence, followed by disappointment over the lack of consequences, continues. We have work to do in this country, and the Liberals are not getting the work done.

When representatives of Hockey Canada came to the heritage committee, they attempted to show that sexual assault was taken seriously. Do not forget that this is the same Hockey Canada that, after covering up the sexual assault that took place in 2018, welcomed Carter Hart onto team Canada at the World Juniors and the IIHF World Championships a year later. This is the same Hockey Canada that claimed that its attempted cover-up of sexual assault was done because it respected victims, saying that it had a “moral obligation to respond to the alleged behaviour that occurred at one of our events by players who attended at our invitation.” Hockey Canada wished to respect the alleged victim's privacy and avoid requiring her to participate “in a prolonged court proceeding”, and said it was “inappropriate to victimize the young woman in court.” Apparently, the board's instinct was “one of compassion for the young woman”.

These statements rocked the world of minor hockey and junior hockey. It was felt in communities like—

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The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

The hon. member for Abitibi—Témiscamingue on a point of order.

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11:50 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Mr. Speaker, I would like to point out that there are no government representatives in the House right now, which shows how little the government respects victims in sport.

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The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

Members are not permitted to say whether someone is present or not. However, if the hon. member wishes to call quorum, he may.

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Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Mr. Speaker, that was what I was implying. I would like the government to respect quorum in the House for the victims' sake.

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11:50 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

We will do a count.

And the count having been taken:

I think we do have quorum.

The hon. member for Churchill—Keewatinook Aski may continue her speech.

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11:50 a.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Mr. Speaker, it is telling when we do not even have the attention of the Liberal members, not just on the—

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11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, as this is coming from someone who is never here, I find it difficult to understand why—

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The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

We have a point of order from the hon. member for Edmonton Griesbach.

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NDP

Blake Desjarlais NDP Edmonton Griesbach, AB

Mr. Speaker, we are dealing with an extremely serious topic today, and the fact that the Liberal House leader explained—

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11:50 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

Can we just get back to the debate? I respect that we need quorum in this chamber to do the work we normally do, so I want to thank those who joined us.

The hon. Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Sport is rising on a point of order.

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11:50 a.m.

Liberal

Adam van Koeverden Liberal Milton, ON

Mr. Speaker, I support any member who wishes to stay home and use the virtual aspects of the House, but I think it is against the rules, as has been stated before, to call out any member who is currently not in the House—

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The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

That is right. We cannot say who is here and not here, and we counted three people on Zoom in our count.

The hon. member for Edmonton Griesbach is rising on a point of order.

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11:50 a.m.

NDP

Blake Desjarlais NDP Edmonton Griesbach, AB

Mr. Speaker, the member who is currently speaking is doing her job right now. What we need is the Liberals to do their job. They need to be present in this chamber—

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The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

We are falling into debate, and I do not want to fall into more debate.

The hon. member for Abitibi—Témiscamingue is rising on a point of order.

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11:50 a.m.

Bloc

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Mr. Speaker, I would just like to know whether being on camera in a lobby counts as being virtually present. I would like the Chair to look into this.

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11:50 a.m.

Conservative

Corey Tochor Conservative Saskatoon—University, SK

Mr. Speaker, on a point of order, there is chaos in the Liberal caucus right now. We see members back—

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11:50 a.m.

The Deputy Speaker Chris d'Entremont

That is not a point of order.

Are we done with points of order? I suggest we are done with points of order, and we are going to allow the hon. member for Churchill—Keewatinook Aski to complete her debate.

The hon. member for Churchill—Keewatinook Aski.

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11:50 a.m.

NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to get back on track.

I am deeply disappointed by the Liberals' cheap shots. Nothing covers for the fact that the Liberals are not doing what is needed to ensure safe sport in our country. We are seeing half measures from them and a lot of PR stunts, which I will get to it in a couple of minutes, but it is the same Liberals who just a couple of days ago blocked a motion that I put forward in committee to seek accountability on the soccer drone scandal that rocked our reputation in soccer and sport on the world stage during the Olympics. The Liberals are doing what they can to cover up what happened there, perhaps not unlike what we are seeing in the House today.

I will get back to the heartbreaking story of victims of sexual violence who were targeted by hockey players and the incidents of sexual violence and sexual assault that were known and covered up by Hockey Canada.

Following the explosive allegations that came up and and knowing the extent to which Hockey Canada knew and covered up the abuse, it is hard to see how Hockey Canada can come back from it, even with the changes it has made in response, including revising its player code of conduct, introducing mandatory training on alcohol abuse and sexual assault, and better managing Hockey Canada events.

The former board chair maintained, “Hockey Canada took appropriate action by reporting this incident to the police, Sport Canada and launching an independent investigation.” Was that appropriate action? Nothing about this was appropriately handled. As shocking and horrific as this case was, we cannot turn away from it. There is a problem within sports in our country, and this report makes that clear.

Kristen Worley, a former high-performance athlete, described her experience of undergoing gender testing, saying, “I would be violated as a predetermination of my participation in cycling.” Throughout her career, her experience was “about abuse, trauma, maltreatment, collusion, the use of wilful blindness, the lack of state responsibility, gross liability, brand protection and foreign interference”. This is damning testimony.

Even the former minister of science and sport, the member for Etobicoke North, appeared at committee to describe her experience, saying:

I also know the darker side of sport. While I have not experienced the horrific abuse that you have heard about at this committee, I am a former gymnast and I know what it's like to be told to eat Jell-o, laxatives, toilet paper and water pills, and what it's like to be weighed and shamed.

Former athletes have described how broken they were upon leaving sports before they even hit 18. We heard from a number of witnesses describing the trauma and pain they carry to this day following their experiences in organized sport. One witness, a fencer named Emily Mason, said:

When I left the sport, I was 17 and I was a broken individual. I was in a mental health crisis. I attempted suicide. I was seeing a mental health professional. The difficulty my family has gone through in the years since I left the sport has been immense. It's been five years now, and it will be a part of our lives for years to come.

This is an endemic problem. As the report notes, as many as 70% of participants in sports will fall victim to at least one form of abuse during their sporting journey. The last record for the number of sport participants in Canada dates from 2016 and stood at eight million people. At 70%, that means 5.6 million people are harmed.

Another witness talked about how uncaring the junior hockey system can be. One of the witnesses shared:

I ended up with a puck to the face. When it happened, I also drove myself to the hospital. I got evaluated and I was told that I had a double jaw fracture. I drove to the pharmacy to get medicine, and I had to head home for recovery.

When I came back from my injury, I learned that the team, which was supposed to have warned my teachers about my incapacity to attend my classes.... Actually, I learned that I had failed all my exams, so I ended up quitting school. The emotional turmoil and the anger I felt coming back had me quit the team I was playing for.

Another parent described their kid's experience as a “dream that turned into a nightmare”.

That is not what sport is supposed to be in our country. We know that sport has the potential to transform lives. It can be key in terms of building not just athletic prowess and better physical form, but also a sense of self-confidence, self-worth and belonging.

Since ancient times, we know the power of gathering to compete in sport, as through the Olympics. Owing to my Greek heritage, I am familiar with the proud history of the Olympic Games as a special time where that part of the world came together to engage in sport as a high form of living and, certainly, as a way of people reaching their full potential.

I will say that Canada talks a good talk when it comes to its commitment to sporting ideals. We heard it from Liberals in the House today, commitments to integrity, commitments to safe sport, commitments to accountability. However, the reality is that Canada has failed many of our young athletes and their families and has failed the advancement of sport in so many ways.

I want to turn to a more recent scandal and again point to the failures of Canada when it comes to ensuring that ethics in sport, integrity in sport, is held to the highest standard. This summer, we all tuned in to watch the Olympics with great pride. We saw major successes from Canadian athletes, but we also saw a major failure. That was the soccer drone scandal that in many ways engulfed a big chunk of our time at the Olympics. We have one of the best women's soccer teams in the world, former gold medal winners, who are incredible players. I want to acknowledge the great Christine Sinclair, who did not play this summer but was critical in supporting and building the sport of soccer for women in our country.

However, we were all shaken when we found out that officials of Soccer Canada, officials of the Canadian women's team, engaged in flying a drone and engaged in spying, which was clearly known to be illegal, during the Olympic Games. It did not just make the news in Canada; it made the news around the world. It was so bad that FIFA launched an investigation, docked points from Canada and fined Soccer Canada. It was so bad that teams from around the world reached out, asking about what Canada was doing.

What was so problematic, in addition to the act of spying, was the arrogance with which Canadian officials responded, the pretense, making comments along the lines that everybody does it. We heard from teams that came out publicly to say no, that they do not engage in flying drones to spy on other teams, on their practices and as they prepare for games. Yet, Canada was out there flouting the most fundamental tenets of ethics in sport, of integrity in sport, of fair play in sport.

I admire our women's soccer players who gave the game their all, who gave it their all as a result of their years of hard work and the support of their families, of their coaches growing up and of their communities. They put it all on the line. However, shame on those Canadian officials. Shame on those within Soccer Canada who thought it was not just acceptable but legitimate in a way, as they went on to defend, to engage in that kind of culture, to engage in spying and to engage in the use of drones to spy on other teams.

I think we all recognized that this was needed work when Soccer Canada said that it would engage in an independent investigation, but that was months ago and we have not heard anything. That is why I put forward a motion to seek accountability on the parliamentary side. This motion finally came to a vote this week and I was shocked that the Liberals, along with the Bloc, blocked our initiative to have public testimony on the soccer drone scandal. Canadian athletes, families and fans deserve answers. They deserve to know that this mess is going to be cleaned up and that we will put an end to the culture of spying and cheating that was clearly encouraged in the lead-up to and during the Olympics.

What do the Liberals have to hide when it comes to Soccer Canada? What is it that they have to hide when it comes to truly getting to the bottom of integrity, ethics and fair play in sport? Canadian athletes and all Canadians deserve better.

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October 24th, 2024 / noon

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lévis—Lotbinière, QC

Madam Speaker, I rise on a point of order. As we can see, it is somewhat chilly in the House. Perhaps it is because there are not enough people. I would like a quorum call.

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

I will also check the number of members participating online.

And the count having been taken:

With the members who are here and those participating virtually, we have quorum.

Resuming questions and comments, the hon. Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change and to the Minister of Sport and Physical Activity.

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Milton Ontario

Liberal

Adam van Koeverden LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change and to the Minister of Sport and Physical Activity

Madam Speaker, I would like to thank my friend and colleague from the New Democratic Party for her interest in safe sport. I know that this is not new for her. She was a volunteer at my first Olympics in 2004 in Athens. We have discussed that before. I sincerely appreciate her support for team Canada beyond just the women's soccer team.

Athlete mental health is of sincere and genuine importance to me personally. I was really grateful to have worked on the Canadian Olympic Committee's game plan program, which has brought forward really revolutionary mental health supports for athletes. I referenced them earlier in my speech. That is the third party I reached out to when I was struggling after I retired from the national team.

Our government has invested an incremental $2.8 million for athletes to access mental health, as well as a really revolutionary athlete and coach mental health resilience program so they have the mental health literacy tools and resources required.

I would like to hear the member opposite reflect on all of these incremental investments and what is available to athletes in 2024 that certainly were not in 2014.

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NDP

Niki Ashton NDP Churchill—Keewatinook Aski, MB

Madam Speaker, I appreciate my colleague's comments and certainly our shared connection around the Athens Olympics. It was a critical moment on my end with respect to seeing upfront what the Olympics can mean, and as a volunteer promoter for the years prior to the Olympics, the extent to which the Olympics is not just about athleticism, but about humanity. That is why it is so important that we get the job done with respect to cleaning house and restoring ethics and integrity in sport as critical values in our work here in Canada.

While I appreciate that certain investments have been made by the Liberals, particularly around mental health, which is important, I wonder why it is that they are voting against looking into the problems that happened at the Paris Olympics around the soccer drone scandal that contributed to ill mental health. We know that it had an impact on our athletes. Let us prevent this kind of culture that puts the mental health of our athletes at risk, and that is—

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

The hon. member can answer other questions as well. It is just that time is of the essence here in order for everyone to get in their questions.

Questions and comments, the hon. member for Drummond.

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12:05 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Madam Speaker, since this morning, this NDP member has been harping on the fact that earlier this week, her motion was defeated at the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage. The motion called for a study into the Canada Soccer drone spying scandal at the summer Olympics. Let me put things into perspective and provide some context.

It is not that the Bloc Québécois does not support the motion. On the contrary, we already explained that we would support it in another form. We had asked her to include the names of witnesses we wanted to hear from as part of the study, which she did not do in her motion. The motion she moved also included a deadline, imposing an agenda on the committee. That was not acceptable either. In addition, and this is the main reason, there is an external investigation currently under way.

What is the point of starting a committee study when we have not yet seen the results of an independent external investigation into the matter? Here are my comments in response to the NDP member's many criticisms and outcries. If she does her job properly and thoroughly, taking into consideration the discussions she is having with the other parties, her motion will lead to a study in committee.