House of Commons Hansard #370 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was conservative.

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Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, I think it is worth recalling that on March 1, 2018, the Minister of Employment told this House, “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.” He actually said that in the House of Commons. That is what is going on here. The minister from Edmonton did not want to let the truth get in the way of what he thought would be a good political story.

Why exactly were these claims made? Why did the Liberal Minister of Employment falsely claim to be indigenous? Perhaps this is another Liberal example of the Maryam Monsef method of selectively claiming to be unaware of key personal facts in order to help develop a more elaborate origin story.

Once upon a time, there were three brothers, Remus, Romulus and Randy, born of a union between the god Mars and a mortal, nursed in the woods by a wolf. After the brothers grew up, a lethal struggle for dominance ensued, and one of the brothers founded the great city of Rome. After founding Rome, he travelled halfway around the world to join the Liberal cabinet.

In other myths, he is identified as the son of Janus, the Roman god with two faces, although as more comes out, two faces may actually not be enough. He is the man, the myth, the minister: “Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.”

However, efforts at exaggerated personal myth-making may not be all there is to this. At present we are prosecuting the Liberals' indigenous contracting scandal, a scandal in which many companies made false or misleading claims about indigenous identity or developed creative arrangements to position themselves as technically indigenous without actually providing substantive economic benefit or opportunity to indigenous people.

For those who have not been following, the scandal is that Liberals established a 5% target and set-aside. Five per cent of government contracts had to go to indigenous companies, so what necessarily flows from having this kind of target is the need to define what is an indigenous company. This kind of work defining indigenous companies is going on elsewhere, because it is not just governments that are looking to include indigenous businesses with procurement opportunities. Many private sector companies, especially in the energy sector, are looking to procure more from indigenous businesses and include indigenous businesses in their supply chains.

Private sector companies are not looking to just check a legal box. They are doing this voluntarily because it is good business and because it gives impacted communities a greater stake in the success of projects. Private sector proponents, though not perfect, have sought ways to define in an authentic way what are indigenous businesses and the extent to which there are real positive economic impacts in the communities they want to work with.

There are currently various organizations, such as the Canadian Council for Indigenous Business, that work with the private sector to help identify and support indigenous businesses. I have also met with the Indigenous Chamber of Commerce in Winnipeg, which has a rigorous process of assessing whether a business is truly indigenous-owned before it is admitted to its membership roles.

However, bizarrely, the Liberal government chose not to work with existing organizations to draw on the various lists that have been created for indigenous businesses. Instead, it developed its own list, which suspiciously appears to include a number of actors as indigenous businesses that are not on anyone else's list. While many in the private sector want to do this for real, the Liberal government has sought to inflate the number of contracts going to indigenous businesses by including businesses on its list that are not actually indigenous and are not on anyone else's indigenous business list.

The Assembly of First Nations has said that a majority of those getting the 5% set-aside are shell companies. There is abuse of joint ventures and shell companies and outright pretending. In one example in the news recently, a company called the Canadian Health Care Agency, a large non-indigenous company, went into joint venture with one person who was also its employee. The Canadian Health Care Agency was able to get many contracts. It got all of the benefit associated with these so-called joint ventures as a non-indigenous company and was able to deceptively position itself as an indigenous company.

We have been prosecuting this scandal for a while, and the AFN and other indigenous leaders have been so clear that this is a grave problem, an abuse of this policy that the Liberals have turned a blind eye to. However, we did not know until recently that the employment minister's company was actually falsely trying to position itself as indigenous.

With this in mind, as we need to get to the bottom of what's happening, I move that the motion be amended by deleting all of the words after the word “That” and substituting the following: “the second report of the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs—”

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

We have a point of order from the hon. member for Drummond. I think I know what it is about.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Bloc

Martin Champoux Bloc Drummond, QC

Madam Speaker, I think the member probably knows that there are interpreters who need to be able to do their jobs. When someone tries to beat an Olympic record for speed talking, it makes it a little harder for them to work. If the member could slow down, it would allow the interpreters to carry out their work.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

The issue is that there may be problems with interpretation because the hon. member is speeding through his amendment. There is still a minute and a half left. I am sure the hon. member can slow down to make sure that everybody in the House is able to hear the amendment.

The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, on that point of order, if there is agreement of the House for me to finish the amendment, I am happy to take the time necessary.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

You will be able to finish the amendment, as you started your amendment before the time had ended. I would say slow down, but not to the point that it slows down the process.

The hon. member for Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, my only goal was to ensure we got it in.

I move:

That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“the second report of the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs presented on Monday, April 25, 2022, be not now concurred in, but that it be recommitted to the committee for further consideration, with a view to studying the economic and anti-reconciliatory barriers posed by fraudulent bids and applications for procurement opportunities set aside for Indigenous businesses, including those from non-Indigenous-owned companies, provided that, for the purposes of this study:

(a) the following be ordered to appear as witnesses, for at least two hours each, at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair of the committee, but no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024,

(i) the Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Official Languages,

(ii) the Minister of Indigenous Services,

(iii) the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations,

(iv) the Minister of Public Services and Procurement,

(v) Arianne Reza, Deputy Minister of Public Services and Procurement,

(vi) Catherine Poulin, Assistant Deputy Minister, Departmental Oversight Branch, Department of Public Works and Government Services;

(b) Felix Papineau and Shawna Parker, individuals currently or formerly associated with Global Health Imports, shall each be ordered to appear as witnesses, separately, for at least one hour each, at dates and times to be fixed by the Chair of the committee, but no later than Tuesday, December 17, 2024; and

(c) it be an instruction that the committee,

(i) hold at least four other meetings to receive evidence from Indigenous partners, stakeholders and experts, proposed by the members of the committee,

(ii) report its findings to the House by Friday, January 31, 2025.”

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:10 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker Carol Hughes

The amendment is in order.

Questions and comments, the hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:10 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, there is no doubt about the importance of this issue. What I call into question is the Conservatives' choice to continue to play a game of preventing debate inside the chamber, whether it is on opposition day motions, government legislation or private members' bills. Instead, they are focusing on privileges, and then to give themselves a break, they bring in concurrence reports.

Does my colleague across the way not feel any obligation whatsoever to question the leader of the Conservative Party and the self-serving tactic the Conservatives are using on the floor of the House of Commons? It seems to me they are more interested in the Conservative Party and the leader of the Conservative Party's ambitions than they are about the concerns of Canadians.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, it is actually this member in particular who seems to be very concerned with talking about the leader of the Conservative Party.

It is quite striking to hear him talk about self-serving tactics. We have a situation where a Liberal minister of the Crown pretended to be indigenous, and his company sought contracts with the government on the basis of falsely claiming to be indigenous-owned. That is incredibly inappropriate and self-serving, and it hurts indigenous entrepreneurs and indigenous communities, which are supposed to benefit. This is a critically important issue that the government used to describe as relating to the most important relationship it has, but clearly it is not important enough in the view of the parliamentary secretary.

I think this is an important discussion, and Conservatives will continue to work to get to the bottom of the abuses in the indigenous contracting program in general, and to hold the minister accountable for his despicable actions and abuses of the public trust.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Madam Speaker, it has been a dismal experience watching the member for Edmonton Centre. He has been like an ethical dumpster fire from the first day he walked in here. I say that because it has been one issue after another, one red flag after another, yet he was moved up into cabinet. I know there are some hard-working Liberals who will never get near cabinet, but he did.

There is something very egregious about this, because after hundreds of years of deeply racist policies that have tried to destroy indigenous life, culture and the ability to live on the land, we finally had one program that was going to be fair, and what did we see? We saw grifters taking advantage of what should have been a profound commitment to reconciliation. The fact that grifter number one may be sitting in cabinet calls on the Prime Minister to take action, yet he is still standing there refusing to explain how the minister got into this position in the first place.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, for the first time in our parliamentary careers, I find myself agreeing with everything the member for Timmins—James Bay just said. I think it was a call from the member and from the NDP for the minister to be removed from cabinet. Of course he needs to be removed from cabinet.

We see such a contrast. On the one hand, the first indigenous attorney general was removed from the Liberal caucus for refusing to enable Liberal corruption in the SNC-Lavalin affair. Then we have an incredibly corrupt employment minister who was pretending to be indigenous elevated to cabinet.

I hope we will have the NDP's support to continue to fight to get to the bottom of this at every committee, and to send this back to the committee, ordering the minister himself to appear so we can hold him accountable.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

November 18th, 2024 / 4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Don Stewart Conservative Toronto—St. Paul's, ON

Madam Speaker, while the government was worrying about the exposure of its unethical behaviour, there was a blue wave sweeping across the country. The Toronto Argonauts were beating the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. I congratulate the Toronto Argonauts, their quarterback Nick Arbuckle and head coach Ryan Dinwiddie on this remarkable win.

My father was a football referee for 35 years. What would he say now? He would say, “I am throwing the flag on the government's accountability metrics, and assigning a 15-yard penalty and loss of downs for its absence of financial management.” When the Liberals refuse to play by the rules, he would add another five yards for unsportsmanlike conduct.

Is this ethical lapse another demonstration of a top-down lack of ethics in the Liberal government?

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, there are actually early reports out that the Minister of Employment was trying to get into the game for free by pretending to be Prince William.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

An hon. member

Prince Harry.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Prince Harry, or both actually.

Madam Speaker, kidding aside, this is a very serious issue and the minister needs to be held accountable. He needs to resign for his deplorable conduct. We need to continue to do the work at committee to get to the bottom of these outrageous abuses, taking advantage of these programs by elite, privileged insiders pretending to be indigenous, including right up to the cabinet.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:15 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, it is a pleasure to rise and add some thoughts on an issue that has always been of great importance to the Government of Canada and, in particular, to the Prime Minister.

We have talked about the whole issue of reconciliation and how, as a government, we have ensured significant budget commitments over the years, but also legislative actions in a very tangible way. I am going to expand on that shortly. Before I do that, I do not want anyone who might be following this debate to believe that the Conservatives are genuinely concerned about the report itself at all. All one needs to do is take a look at the previous member's comments on the report and then reflect on what was being debated earlier today. I would suggest that the whole concept of character assassination has something in common with this. This is more about a multi-million dollar game the Conservatives have played for many weeks, at a great cost.

Substantial legislation is waiting to be debated, both from the government's perspective and from the perspective of private members. However, instead of having that form of debate, the Conservatives continue to bring in concurrence reports to fill time because they are running out of things to say on their privilege motions. Here they have taken a particular issue that has always been important to the government. At the end of the day, I question their motivation for choosing to use this issue as a political game to add to the multi-million dollar filibuster that we have been witnessing for many weeks and, unfortunately, in all likelihood, for many days to come. I look at this from a perspective of lost opportunities and why we need to move on.

When I think of the issue at hand, I think of individuals like Cindy Woodhouse. I think of the passing of Mr. Sinclair, an individual, second to no other in Manitoba, who brought forward the debate on indigenous reconciliation for all Canadians and the important role we all have to play, including here in the House. I was at the funeral, as members from all political parties were.

When the TRC report came out, the leader of the Liberal Party at the time, because it was back in 2015, made the commitment to act on every one of those 94 calls for action. We have seen significant gains. Many have taken the form of legislation that has passed, such as a statutory holiday, indigenous languages and legislation dealing with children. We have also seen significant financial commitments, somewhere in the neighbourhood of $400-plus million toward indigenous entrepreneurs and others since 2015 to encourage partnerships. In the 2024 budget, in fact, we committed $350 million to dealing with issues to increase access to capital.

I think of my home province of Manitoba and the city of Winnipeg, and the only way we can hit the potential that our province has in the federation is to see reconciliation work. A part of that is to recognize the entrepreneurs and the workers and how, as a national government, we can contribute to it. One of the first things we took initiative on, for example, was the issue of Freedom Road, something Shoal Lake 40 was asking for for many years. Stephen Harper, throughout those years when the leader of the Conservative Party was a cabinet minister with Stephen Harper, said, “No, the federal government does not support Freedom Road.”

It took a change in government. It was not until the current Prime Minister formed the cabinet, and with the support of the national Liberal caucus, that we ultimately saw financing for Freedom Road. Freedom Road has had a profoundly positive impact for Shoal Lake 40. It is not because of Ottawa but more because of the leadership from within the Shoal Lake 40 reserve. These are the people who deserve the credit. What we did as government was recognize the potential and get behind the individual chief and council to ultimately enable it.

We have seen other very successful projects at Shoal Lake 40. They are significant projects, all of which, I would suggest, are indigenous led, from the companies to the workers to the quality that we see, including the water treatment facility. For the community's size, it is a world-class facility, which is there today because of indigenous-led companies and the chief and council. We could also talk about the twinning of Highway 17.

I look at individuals like Sharon Redsky, who often affords me the opportunity to better understand indigenous issues, especially around children and social enterprises and the potential for charitable groups and indigenous organizations to contribute to reconciliation. These are individuals. I think of Chief Kevin Redsky and the leadership the chief and council provide, and how that is making a difference. We as a government have supported that leadership and those developments.

I would suggest that the Conservatives are introducing the report today not because the Conservatives care about the issue. It has more to do with the same sort of subject matter they are talking about with the privilege issue. Let us ask ourselves, have the Conservatives ever, in the last number of years, raised this issue in the form of an opposition day motion? The short answer is no, they have not.

The only reason the Conservatives are raising it today is that, in going through the 100-plus reports, they said it was an issue that they could politicize. They could stand up and continue on with the character assassination of a particular minister. That is their motivation. It is not because they are concerned about indigenous issues. I did not witness that in the last speech by the Conservative member.

Just last week, I had the opportunity to participate in an organization called Raising the Roof. I understand that it actually originated in the province of Ontario. It is a wonderful group. It ensures that it is building a number of homes for non-profits. It ventured into Winnipeg, Manitoba, for the very first time. There was a substantial federal contribution to it, and I had the opportunity to participate in the announcement.

What touched me most in regard to that was the fact that there was a company, Purpose Construction, which is responsible for doing the renovations of a particular home that happens to be in Winnipeg North. It is on Mountain Avenue in what I would classify as the core, traditional, heritage-rich north end of Winnipeg. What would have been a dilapidated two-storey-plus home has now been converted into a wonderful place to call home, not for one, but actually two families. From what I understand, it also has a third area; this is maybe not necessarily for a family, but it could be for someone who is coming in and studying or whatever it might be. We will see that it is for the homeless.

There is another organization, Siloam Mission; this is actually the group that is going to be responsible for, from what I can recall, ensuring that there are tenants going into the facility and managing the facility. They are indigenous tenants. However, I will get back to Purpose Construction because it is more than just the federal government that is increasing the number of homes.

Purpose Construction is an indigenous company that is taking indigenous workers and allowing them to learn a trade and supporting that. The benefits of this particular facility, or home, that is being built go far beyond just providing another home for a couple of families and others. It is touching the community in a very real way, and it is supporting indigenous-led companies and more.

We should keep in mind that the Conservative Party does not support housing initiatives. Most recently, we have seen that with the housing accelerator fund, wherein the federal government is working with other municipalities to ensure that we get more homes built. Many Conservatives are saying that they like that particular program. They are writing to ministers. If there are 18 of them writing, I can only imagine how many others actually support it but are not writing to the Minister of Housing here.

I suspect that the housing announcement by the leader of the Conservative Party, which I have labelled as a dud, demonstrates how it is that the Conservative Party treats supporting indigenous communities. I could talk at great length in regard to the housing issue.

Let us move on to the Canada Infrastructure Bank. Even today, I believe I have heard at least one Conservative member say they want to get rid of the Canada Infrastructure Bank. The Conservative Party's official position on the Canada Infrastructure Bank is to get rid of it. If we dig a little deeper, they will give misinformation. They will say that the Canada Infrastructure Bank does not do anything. There are billions of dollars of investments through the Canada Infrastructure Bank that have led to more billions of dollars of investments from other stakeholders. We are talking around $30 billion. The last time I checked, it was getting close to $30 billion.

If we check with the Canada Infrastructure Bank, we will see that the bank has an indigenous equity initiative that is enabling indigenous leaders to tap in and become partners on infrastructure development. There are projects there. How does the Conservative Party of Canada and its shiny new leader respond to that? They say that the Canada Infrastructure Bank is a bad idea and that they are going to cut it, just as they say they are going to cut the housing accelerator fund. Their policies are very much dictated by the far right in Canada. We know that.

The progressive nature that used to be in the Conservative Party has completely evaporated; it is more focused on cuts. If we were to broaden it out to expand beyond indigenous communities and just focus on cuts and why they are so relevant, the Conservative Party tries to give the false impression that it cares about indigenous communities; in fact, we know that it is going to cut indigenous funds that are now flowing.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:30 p.m.

An hon. member

Oh, oh!

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, the member across the way says that will not happen. The Conservatives are going to cut the Canada Infrastructure Bank, which is helping fund some of these capital projects. They are going to cut it, yet they say they are not going to cut it. They are going to cut the housing accelerator fund. Are they trying to tell me that indigenous communities do not benefit through that fund, that there will not be social enterprises, such as Purpose Construction, that are going to participate in renovations and the building of homes?

The Conservative Party needs to reflect and hold its own far-right Conservative leader to account for the careless cuts that it continues to propose all the time, whether the ones I have talked about already or cuts to dental care, pharmacare or child care. That is the Conservative Party today, and it does need to be held to account for that.

The Conservatives bring forward motions for concurrence, not because they are interested in the subject matter but because they are trying to show that the House of Commons is dysfunctional. That is the real purpose of what they are doing.

If we read the motion, Conservatives want to extend it beyond the chamber to standing committees. This is the third one that I can think of right offhand where they want to send a report, and we have hundreds of them, back to the standing committee. They want to tell the standing committee what it has to do; by the way, they also want it to call x, y and z. Why is that? It is because they want to continue the multi-million dollar game at the expense of Canadians; they are more focused on the interests of the leader of the Conservative Party than they are on Canadians.

I say shame on them. They have a responsibility to behave in such a fashion that other agenda items can be debated and passed. I am not just talking government. There is Private Members' Business also. There is a fall economic statement. There is a lot to talk about on the floor of the House of Commons. It is time that the Conservative Party stops its political game and starts thinking about what is in the best interests of Canadians.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:35 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Madam Speaker, it is clear from the member's anti-Conservative rant that the Leader of the Opposition lives rent-free in his head. That is about the only person in the whole country living rent-free at the moment.

On the very important subject of indigenous economic development, Conservatives have repeatedly put forward policies aimed at supporting economic development for indigenous peoples. The Liberals' approach has been to oppose efforts by indigenous peoples to prosper through, for instance, Canada's natural resource sectors, as well as to allow elite, non-indigenous fraudsters and phonies, well-connected Liberal insiders, to take advantage of a program that is supposed to benefit indigenous peoples.

We know that the Minister of Employment was misrepresenting his identity, and this amendment would order him to come to committee.

Does the member agree that the minister responsible should be ordered to come to committee and answer questions about his actions?

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, the member opposite knows that there is absolutely nothing that prevents the standing committee that he is calling for from asking the minister to come before committee. That is not what the issue is. The issue is a filibuster, a multi-million dollar political game in which the leader of the official opposition feels that it is more important to serve his political interests and the Conservative Party's interests than to serve the interests of Canadians. That is the issue.

Yes, I give a lot of attention to the leader of the Conservative Party because I do not trust him, nor do Canadians. The more Canadians understand who the far-right leader actually is, the more they are going to move away from him in droves. At the end of the day, this is a leader who believes in cuts. Those cuts are going to hurt. That is why I am concerned.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Bloc

Andréanne Larouche Bloc Shefford, QC

Madam Speaker, I want to bring us back to the matter at hand today.

In my first question, I pointed out that the Standing Committee on the Status of Women often realizes that indigenous women and girls face certain difficulties. The issue of infrastructure and housing has come up repeatedly in our studies.

My colleague, the member for Abitibi—Témiscamingue, and I had the opportunity to meet with representatives of the Yänonhchia' initiative. We are talking about housing in indigenous communities, so I will bring us back to that topic. The goal of this initiative is to build projects by and for indigenous peoples, in consultation with them to ensure that they have safe and affordable housing that meets their cultural needs. It is a nation-to-nation discussion. That is our perspective. They wrote a letter to the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance asking for the $150 million needed to carry out this initiative.

I would like my colleague to talk about that. Is he familiar with that initiative? Is that the kind of initiative they can discuss among colleagues? Will they consider supporting it in the 2024 fall economic statement?

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, I am very proud of the fact that I have had the opportunity to know National Chief Cindy Woodhouse for many years. I can say that she is a very outspoken, powerful advocate.

One issue she has talked to me about over the years is housing. I know it is a major concern. I believe that we will continue to work with indigenous people, whether it is through the Prime Minister or the Minister of Housing, because we know that the federal government has an important role to play. This is one reason that the current government, more than any other government, has been there from a financial point of view to support housing.

Not that long ago, I was talking with David Chartrand, the president of the Red River Métis federation. His approach of wanting to see housing built is being achieved, at least in a small way. I believe he recognizes that the federal government is working with the Métis nation and indigenous people as a whole on the housing file.

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Madam Speaker, reconciliation is an issue because Canada attempted to perpetrate a genocide, and the first step of the genocide was to target the children. The second step was to bring in hunger and forced famine to force people off the land.

I think my colleague would agree that, many days, the House of Commons is like The Jerry Springer Show. However, we are not hearing any talk about the genocide in Gaza or of the fact that, two days ago, Human Rights Watch found that Israel is guilty of crimes against humanity for using famine and targeting children. About 70% of the deaths in Gaza are women and children. That is a targeting of a people to destroy them. We have seen nothing from the Prime Minister on the international stage.

Why do the Liberals continue to tiptoe around a genocide that is happening in real time as the world watches?

Indigenous and Northern AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

4:45 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, I have full confidence in our Minister of Foreign Affairs and I appreciate her efforts in working with our allied countries and like-minded countries, whether they are one of the Five Eyes or others, in terms of making sure that we are speaking as one. I would suggest that for more details the member should sit down and talk to her or send her an email, whatever it is that he feels more comfortable with.

What I do know is that myself, the Minister of Northern Affairs, and a number of others were at the Murray Sinclair funeral services to recognize a man who has done so much not only for reconciliation in Manitoba but for our entire country. He has left a legacy that we can all reflect on. One of those things is to take a look at the 94 calls to action and how each and every one of us has a role to play, whether someone is an elected member of Parliament, an MLA or anyone else in society.