House of Commons Hansard #342 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was leader.

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FinanceAdjournment Proceedings

6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Madam Speaker, there was a whole bunch of misinformation. There were some facts in there, but there was a whole bunch of fiction as well, and I will go through some of that.

Number one, the OECD predicts Canada being one of the worst-performing economies over the next decade. He can reference that. When he talked about the IMF's status about where Canada sits, he completely misled this House and Canadians, and frankly, we have had enough of it.

Let us look at the rising cost of debt in Canada, because that is what matters. Canadians have about $5,600 of debt payments between what governments pay and what they have to pay themselves. That is about $14,000 per household. After tax, if we think about it, an average salary in Canada is $60,000 or $120,000 if done by two, $14,000 is 20% of some people's income.

Can the member explain how he is going to get that rate down?

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6:40 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Madam Speaker, I am proud of our government's track record on managing the resources of this country in a way that is responsible and on stewarding our country through some very challenging economic times. Again, I do not need to remind the member about the pandemic, but I will anyway; I think he has amnesia when it comes to understanding the economic impacts of a global pandemic, a once-in-a-hundred-year public health crisis. I also know that he wants to conveniently forget about the fact that the rest of the world is dealing with the inflationary pressures that Canada has been dealing with.

Canada has fared much better than many other peer countries around the world. We have had inflation come down to the Bank of Canada's target rate. We have stuck to our fiscal guardrails. The IMF has rated Canada number one in terms of budget balance and number one when it comes to GDP growth in 2025, which is next year. Canada is faring very well. We have the highest per capita foreign direct investment. We have recovered over two million jobs in the postpandemic recovery. Things are looking bright for this country.

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6:40 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Madam Speaker, I stand before members with a heavy heart today to share some stories of moms and dads whom I heard from over the course of the summer. They shared with me the heartbreaking truth that they just cannot afford the quality food that they want to give their kids. These are proud parents who have done everything right. They work hard and play by the rules, yet they find they are struggling not to get ahead but just to get by. They told me of the feeling of looking into the eyes of their little ones and of the desperation in being unable to fulfill the most basic need by providing a healthy, decent meal for their kids.

I also spoke with many seniors, the very individuals who built this country, who are now faced with an unbearable reality. I vividly recall one senior who had tears forming in her eyes as she told me how her rent and utility bill increases have made it near impossible to afford anything else. She cannot afford fresh fruit, fresh veggies or anything that she wants to enjoy her passion with, which is cooking. She can barely afford to feed herself, never mind feeding anyone else. She told me she thought she had a good pension, and she saved her whole life; however, she cannot stretch these dollars any further. She told me that this was not the Canada she remembered, and it was not the retirement she expected.

For these folks, their spirits are shattered when they have to line up at a food bank, empty-handed and exhausted, just to pick up a few extra meals to get through to the end of the month. They told me that they feel like a burden, or worse, a failure on behalf of their family. They do not want to have to ask their family and friends for help. I respect that pride, but they should not have to feel this way.

Let us not forget the staggering truth that the number of Canadians relying on food banks has reached an all-time high. This is not the Canada that these Canadians, nor any of us, were promised. I grew up believing that, if we went to school, worked hard and played by the rules, no dream was too big and retirement with dignity would not be out of reach. However, many are left wondering how they are going to afford dinner instead.

The government has let Canadians down. It has pushed them to the brink, to a feeling of loneliness and failure. I would be shocked if Liberal and NDP colleagues did not hear the same story, or one very similar, over the course of the summer.

Now, I expect my colleague across the way will respond to this question with talking points about how great all the Liberals' care programs are. However, no government program could ever restore the lost pride of those parents or those retirees.

According to Harvest Manitoba, food bank usage surged by 150% between 2019 and 2023. How many more families will have to suffer? How many will have to line up in desperation before the government recognizes its own failures? How many more families must line up at a food bank before the Liberals finally axe the tax and recognize that, if we tax the farmer who grows the food, the trucker who ships the food and the grocer who sells the food, we put a tax on all Canadians? How bad does it have to get until they realize their failed policies have caused this? How long until the Liberals and the NDP take a good, long look in the mirror and realize that their policies, while perhaps well intentioned, are the cause of this misery for so many Canadians?

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6:45 p.m.

Whitby Ontario

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance and to the Minister of Innovation

Madam Speaker, I was a little shocked to hear the hon. member call some of our programs and the things we stand for and have been implementing, “all of [those] care programs”, as if they can be lumped into some nebulous, unintelligible phrase. It seems to me a shame that he does not understand the value of pharmacare, dental care, mental health care and the health care investments we have made. All of the care programs he has spoken of are designed to help lift people up, care for them and help with the affordability challenges that Canadians are facing. Maybe that is just an aside.

I would like to get back to the heart of the member's question, which I think was focused, at least from what was tabled in the House, on the housing crisis. I can assure the member that the crisis is not unique to Manitoba and is not unique to any part of this country; it is actually all across the country. The housing crisis has been around since long before the current government was in power.

In fact, the current government put forward the national housing strategy. One of the reasons I stepped up in 2019 and put my name on a ballot was that for the first time in 30 years, I saw a federal government willing to invest in housing in a meaningful way. It made a big, bold commitment to reducing homelessness, to helping solve the affordable housing challenges that Canadians were facing. The plan, with significant investments of over $70 billion over 10 years, was a really big reason for my wanting to get involved in politics.

Certainly, the housing challenges have morphed and changed, and the market has shifted. I admit that there are significant challenges. I feel passionate about this issue. I feel compassion for every Canadian who either cannot afford to buy a home or who is struggling with affordability challenges and is at risk of homelessness. That is something the government takes very seriously. We have put effort, time and energy into developing a strategy and implementing real solutions, not slogans, like “axe the tax”, which are false signifiers that have no meaning and are going to help not one person with getting housed in this country.

We are waiving GST on new rental construction. We are helping non-profits purchase housing stock that would otherwise become unaffordable or be bought up. We are helping co-operatives develop more housing with $1.5 billion in support for them. We are working with municipalities through the housing accelerator fund to make it easier and faster to get shovels in the ground and to improve medium density and other forms of housing density that will lower the cost for Canadians. We have just made mortgage rule changes that will help more and more Canadians access a lower-cost mortgage. Individuals who rent will be able to have their responsible rental history count toward their acquiring a mortgage in the future.

These are all positive steps and real solutions that are helping people, not to mention the historic investment we have made in the national housing strategy that has helped over 500,000 Canadians right across this country to get housing, or to maintain or repair housing if it was in disarray.

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6:50 p.m.

Conservative

Branden Leslie Conservative Portage—Lisgar, MB

Madam Speaker, I think that the member's response is a great example of the false reality Liberal-NDP members live in, where everything is fine. I talked about suffering, and he offered compassion. Compassion is fine, but Liberals caused the problem and are trying to offer fake solutions to fix the problem they caused; this is why Canadians are so upset. They want to be left alone. They want to work hard. They want to play by the rules. They want to earn a good-quality living with powerful paycheques to pay for their family's food and living expenses and to help the next generation get ahead.

However, all of a sudden, the Liberals have the idea to quadruple the size of the carbon tax to make it 61¢ a litre. Do they think that is going to have no impact on the quality of life of Canadians now and in the future? It is remarkable to me that they can live in this false reality. How do they wake up in the morning and think everything is fine if they talk to anybody in their ridings and recognize it is not?

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6:50 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Madam Speaker, it is interesting that the member talks about a false reality. From where I sit, it is the Conservatives that have a false reality. They are unhinged from reality. In fact, they offer zero solutions. They offer three-word slogans, and others such as “powerful paycheques”. What the heck does that mean? I have no clue what the Conservative Party means by that. It is a false promise.

It is something that the Conservatives keep repeating over and over again. They think it sounds good. They think, somehow, it is going to light up people's brains in some fancy way or give people some emotional response and then they are going to vote for the Conservative Party. That makes no sense. It is not going to solve the affordable housing crisis.

We put forward a plan with real solutions and are investing significant dollars because Canada has a great balance sheet. We are doing that to benefit Canadians, to help them get housed, to help solve homelessness and to help solve the affordable housing crisis.

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6:50 p.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

It being 6:54 p.m., the House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 2 p.m. pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

(The House adjourned at 6:54 p.m.)