House of Commons Hansard #342 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was leader.

Topics

Oral QuestionsPoints of OrderRoutine Proceedings

3:30 p.m.

NDP

Lindsay Mathyssen NDP London—Fanshawe, ON

Madam Speaker, I was hoping to address this to the Speaker, as the NDP is waiting for a ruling from him on the member for Carleton's comments last Thursday, which are still on the record. They clearly went over the line of what is acceptable in this House. Standing Order 18 very clearly states that disrespectful and offensive language against a fellow member of Parliament is not permitted.

As we have made very clear, we expect and are waiting for a full apology and withdrawal from the member for Carleton. We have not yet seen that from the Speaker's office.

Oral QuestionsPoints of OrderRoutine Proceedings

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Liberal Alexandra Mendes

That is duly noted. I am sure there will be a response soon.

The House resumed consideration of the motion.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:35 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Madam Speaker, I am thankful for the opportunity to speak to today's opposition day motion on behalf of the residents of my amazing riding of Davenport, in downtown west Toronto. It is not a surprise that I will not be supporting this motion when it comes to a vote. I want to talk about the work the Liberals are doing to strengthen the economy here in Canada and, more specifically, the investments we are making in artificial intelligence.

Today, I rise to highlight this government's achievements on artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence has incredible potential to transform the economy, improve the way we work and enhance our way of life. Over the last several years, our federal government has taken a number of actions to support our world-class researchers and innovators to ensure that Canada remains at the forefront of developing and adopting safe and responsible artificial intelligence.

When it comes to artificial intelligence, Canada has been ahead of the curve for many years. In 2017, Canada was the first country to launch a fully funded national AI strategy. Through the pan-Canadian AI strategy, we have helped build a vibrant AI ecosystem in Canada by working with key partners such as the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research; the three national AI institutes based across this country in Edmonton, Montreal and Toronto; and Canada's five global innovation clusters to build a base of world-class talent in AI, to advance research excellence and to drive the responsible adoption of AI across Canada's economy and society.

Through the Canadian Institute for Advanced Research AI chairs program, we have recruited over 120 of the best and brightest AI researchers in the world. These researchers are advancing research in a range of key areas such as science, health, energy and the environment. We are also training a strong cohort of next-generation AI leaders. Through the second phase of this strategy, we are building a strong research base with programs that are enabling AI commercialization and adoption.

The investments made by our federal government of over $440 million under the strategy have resulted in a research and talent ecosystem that is the envy of the world. We are seeing the positive economic impacts of investments in the growing number of AI start-ups and scale-ups across Canada that are taking world-leading positions in their fields. Canada now ranks among leading nations on the global AI index, as well as in start-up AI activity, venture capital investment in AI companies, talent growth and research publications.

Furthermore, in 2018, the federal government launched the global innovation clusters program, including Canada's AI-powered supply chains cluster, Scale AI, representing an ambitious co-investment with industry. Scale AI is creating collaborations across the country to promote intellectual property creation and commercialization and to ensure that Canada's AI business ecosystem remains one of the most vibrant in the world.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:40 p.m.

Conservative

Damien Kurek Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Madam Speaker, on a point of order, I was listening intently to my colleague's speech, which is on a confidence motion about the Prime Minister and the government, and I have yet to hear whether she has confidence related to the motion at hand.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Liberal Alexandra Mendes

The hon. member knows there is a lot of latitude in what members can address in their speeches, and the hon. member for Davenport is talking about the government's actions.

The hon. member for Saanich—Gulf Islands is rising on the same point of order.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:40 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Madam Speaker, I know it is extremely unusual that I would rise to support a point made by my friend from Battle River—Crowfoot, but I do think we should try for some relevance.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Liberal Alexandra Mendes

The hon. member for Davenport.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Madam Speaker, to the first hon. member who mentioned me, first of all, I am glad he listened so intently, but he missed the intentional indication that I made at the outset of my speech that I will not be supporting the opposition day motion. I believe we are talking about confidence in this government, and I would say that I have enormous confidence in our government. I am giving the member examples of why I have so much confidence in it and am talking about our AI strategy. I see all of this as very relevant and I am going to continue.

In 2018, the government launched the global innovation cluster program. This program is an ambitious coinvestment with industry that will create collaborations across the country to promote intellectual property creation and commercialization and to ensure that we have a very strong AI business ecosystem that will remain the most vibrant in the world. I believe we have a lot of work to do to create a culture of IP here in Canada, and we need to continue to invest very strongly in IP education and make sure we are patenting and trademarking the unbelievable ideas created here in Canada.

Going back to Canada's AI, to date, Scale AI has announced 151 projects representing a total coinvestment of $610 million. These projects have helped Canadian start-ups launch new products, find partners and grow. Scale AI has supported many Canadian AI successes, such as Routific in B.C. and AlayaCare in Montreal. With many more projects under way, Scale AI will continue to deliver on the promise of advancing AI innovation and driving economic growth across Canada.

As our domestic AI capacity has grown, Canada has leveraged this to shape global norms on AI. With France, we developed and launched the Global AI Partnership on AI in 2020, which is now the premier forum where countries can collaborate and advance the development of AI for good and for all. With allies in the Council of Europe, we developed the first binding treaty to ensure the respect of human rights, the rule of law and democracy in the use of AI. With G7 allies, Canada has developed cutting-edge principles and best practices for responsible AI.

This experience allowed Canada to be an early mover in developing clearer rules for developing and operating AI systems. In 2022, our Minister of Innovation tabled Bill C-27, which included a component entitled the artificial intelligence and data act. If passed, it will make a new law aimed at ensuring proper risk management and transparency for AI systems in order to promote trust. This act would ensure that firms developing or deploying AI systems play critical roles in the lives of Canadians, such as those determining access to credit or employment, and that they meet the minimum standards for transparency, assessment and mitigation of risk. This will ensure that Canadians can trust these systems to operate safely and fairly. The act would also create a new regulator, the artificial intelligence and data commissioner, to oversee compliance, with strong penalties for non-compliance. Canada was one of the first countries in the world to introduce comprehensive AI legislation, and many other countries are now going down the same path and following our leadership.

With the advances of generative AI that took place in 2022 and 2023, our federal government took action to ensure that businesses have the tools they need to adopt advanced AI in a trustworthy and responsible manner. Our government introduced a voluntary code of conduct on advanced generative AI. This code is voluntary, and those who sign on to it commit to set in place concrete measures, which include expectations for AI transparency, safety, accountability and testing. To date, 30 organizations have signed on to the code, and we expect more signatories in the future.

Most recently, our government continued its leadership in this space through budget 2024, which announced an ambitious package of measures totalling $2.4 billion over five years, starting in 2024-25, to secure Canada's AI advantage. This includes $2 billion in funding for a new AI compute access fund and an AI sovereign compute strategy, $200 million to support the adoption of AI across Canada's economy and $100 million to support small and medium-sized enterprises that are seeking to develop and scale their AI product offerings.

I want to finish off by saying that we have laid a strong foundation for future successes to come with the strategy and investment we have made in AI, and with the support we are putting into place for our world-class researchers. What we are doing now is doubling down on investments in compute and adoption and upscaling to make sure Canada remains at the forefront of the AI revolution. We are proud of the work we have done to support Canada's AI ecosystem and proud of the work we are doing to protect Canadians as we enter into the digital and AI-enabled age.

I am thankful for the opportunity to speak to this important motion today on behalf of the residents of my riding of Davenport.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Stephen Ellis Conservative Cumberland—Colchester, NS

Madam Speaker, it is an interesting fact that food bank usage across this great country has reached its highest peak ever. In Ontario alone, one million people visited a food bank in one year, and across Canada, there were almost two million visits to food banks in one month.

I wonder if the member opposite has any comments on the failure of the government to deliver on reduced taxes and better affordability for Canadian citizens.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Madam Speaker, I want to thank the hon. member for his concern about food banks. Indeed, the fact that we have more people going to food banks is a huge concern in Canada, and we are rightly concerned about this. However, I am very proud of our government. Every step of the way, we have introduced a number of measures to help support Canadians at every level of income. We have introduced the Canada child benefit. We have lowered taxes for the middle class and those working hard to achieve it. We have introduced a dental care plan. We have introduced a national child care plan. We have introduced a number of programs to help support Canadians through this process. The only question I have is why Conservatives have voted against each one of those programs.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:45 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Madam Speaker, I imagine that it will come as no surprise to my colleague that I am talking to her about seniors. According to the OECD, Canada is one of the industrialized countries where people experience the sharpest drop in their purchasing power on retirement. Based on these data, would my colleague not agree that the Bloc Québécois's request is extremely reasonable?

Even though they say it would cost $3 billion, the fact remains that this does not even represent 1% of government spending. Is it not reasonable to say that seniors, who built Quebec and the rest of this country, deserve to be treated decently?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:45 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Madam Speaker, there is a huge number of seniors in my riding of Davenport. I love them all, and I am very fond of them. First of all, I am always in support of more support for seniors, just to let everybody know, but I am very proud of our record in the House. One of the first things we did when we were first elected is lower the age of retirement from 67 to 65. We increased the guaranteed income for seniors, and we also provided an increase of 10% to OAS for those 75 and older. We have provided a significant amount of housing dollars that will support additional housing specifically for seniors. We have also introduced the national dental care plan, which is adored by seniors, not only in Davenport but right across this country.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:45 p.m.

NDP

Alistair MacGregor NDP Cowichan—Malahat—Langford, BC

Madam Speaker, when we look at the Canadian electorate right now, I think we can see that about 60% of Canadians are rejecting what the Conservatives are trying to sell, but that 60% is looking for a progressive standard-bearer. I think it is fair to say, with the by-election losses in Toronto—St. Paul's and recently in Montreal, that there is a big sense of disappointment in the Liberal government, particularly in the Prime Minister. Canadians are looking for bold ideas on tackling climate change, on tackling corporate greed, and they have yet to see that. Canadians really are hurting.

There were rumblings in the Liberal caucus at the start of summer about confidence in the Prime Minister. Does this member still have confidence in her leader to actually step up to the plate and meet the moment that Canadians are asking for?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Madam Speaker, this will be the third time I am indicating that I will not be supporting this motion and I have full confidence in our Prime Minister and his role as leader of our Liberal Party.

I am glad that the member mentioned carbon pricing and innovative, creative ideas. That was a creative idea that we introduced when we were first elected in office almost nine years ago. Carbon pricing, a price on pollution, is a very innovative idea. It is the most effective and efficient way of reducing emissions, and I am very sorry that the New Democrats have decided to join the Conservatives and not support carbon pricing.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Madam Speaker, I would like to start by mentioning that I will be sharing my time with my colleague from Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston. I am here today to speak about our non-confidence motion regarding this Prime Minister and this government. It is often said that memory is not infallible. What we know today, thanks to our short-term memory, is that this government, with the help of the Bloc Québécois, has doubled the country's debt, doubled the cost of housing, caused the worst inflation in 40 years, sent two million people to food banks, and unleashed a wave of crime and chaos in our communities. That is today's reality.

I think we need a reminder, a refresher on this government's legacy over the past nine years. There are reasons why we say “nine years with this Prime Minister” or “nine years with this government”. I want to talk about the current legacy of scandals surrounding the Prime Minister. The list is long. I hope I will have enough time to get through it all.

For starters, we remember the infamous trip to the Aga Khan's island; that was a controversial trip. There was even a report from the Ethics Commissioner, who found the Prime Minister guilty of ethical breaches. Then there is the former justice minister, Jody Wilson-Raybould, a woman of integrity who wanted to do her job but was sidelined because she would not help SNC-Lavalin circumvent the law.

There was the WE Charity scandal. Everyone remembers WE, and if they do not, that is exactly why we need to talk about it again. Some $900 million was spent via this company for gatherings of some kind. Money was also paid out to relatives. I am talking about the Prime Minister's mother and brother. I could go on and on about that scandal, but today I simply want to refresh everyone's memory.

Let us talk about management of the pandemic. What did Canada do? In a truly baffling decision, we took our stockpile of masks and personal protective equipment and sent it to China. What happened a few weeks later? The virus entered Canada, and we were out of equipment because it had all been sent to China. That is the kind of utterly ridiculous decision that was made. Meanwhile, contracts were being signed. Because there was a pandemic, things had to be done. Party insiders close to the regime were rubbing their hands in glee, including former MP Frank Baylis, who owned a company and announced that he could provide 10,000 ventilators for $230 million. Someone looked at that, scratched their head and thought that 10,000 ventilators seemed like a lot, that maybe we did not need that many and that it would have cost $130 million on the market. Overpaying by $100 million is not insignificant. He was a party insider, however. We dug a little deeper and tried to figure things out at committee, but we were not able to truly get to the bottom of this. In hindsight, we know that it made no sense whatsoever. To make matters worse, I was recently told that these 10,000 machines have been thrown in the garbage.

Last spring, there was the McKinsey affair. Dominic Barton and friends of the Prime Minister and the Liberal regime were suddenly awarded contracts worth over $120 million. Contracts were awarded to McKinsey for consulting. Once again, in committee, we dug a little deeper to get the information. We all know that those contracts did not make any sense, but it is difficult to press charges. However, Canadians should remember that these things happened and that there are still a lot of unanswered questions.

With respect to the Governor General issue, the appointment of Ms. Payette was a total fiasco. Everyone knows that things went completely off the rails there. She spent money frivolously. Victims had to be compensated. In our opinion, that appointment and that mindset are representative of the Prime Minister's legacy. In 2021, the current Minister of Public Safety, Democratic Institutions and Intergovernmental Affairs admitted that the “Payette fiasco shows the need for a stronger GG vetting process”. What did the Prime Minister immediately do to replace Ms. Payette? He appointed a Governor General who does not speak French, one of the official languages. I think that we need to repeat that often: Our official languages are English and French.

That was another really stupid decision on the part of this government. The Liberals had the opportunity to appoint a new governor general and they chose a unilingual anglophone. Let us also remember our Prime Minister's much-talked-about trip to India in 2018. What a fiasco that was. It was totally ridiculous. He was wearing costumes. He made us the laughingstock of the country, but things got even worse from there.

When he attended an official protocol activity in India, there was a terrorist in his group. That terrorist had been invited by a former MP who is no longer here today, fortunately. That terrorist was a guest of Canada. That is quite something.

We know that the Prime Minister likes to dress up. Even before he became Prime Minister, he often wore racist costumes. He did it so often that he does not even remember how many times he did it.

I want to come back to the financial scandals. Recently, there was the ArriveCAN scandal, the famous app that should have cost $80,000. Experts said they could develop that app in a weekend. In the end, it cost us taxpayers $60 million and counting. That is another scandal. As I was saying at the start, it has been nine years of scandals. Some apparently end up being forgotten. That is why today, when we talk about how this is the situation after nine years, we add this all up.

I will move on to the partisan judicial appointments. That is a sensitive topic. The fact remains that it is common knowledge that six sitting superior court judges paid to have drinks with the Prime Minister or the Minister of Finance just before being appointed to the bench.

Let us get back to the trips. There was the Prime Minister's vacation at the home of the Aga Khan, and after that, there was his Jamaican holiday. The Prime Minister travelled to Jamaica with his family, and his team told the media that he was paying all of his own expenses. We know that the airplane is a must for security reasons. No one needs to tell me that. I know. As for the rest, however, when people decide to stay at a big villa and all that, they should pay for it themselves, not with taxpayer dollars. The Prime Minister's Office said that he paid for all of his expenses, but we later learned that he had not paid a cent, that he had been invited by another billionaire friend to stay at his home with his family and his entourage. Why not tell Canadians the truth? Why play all the angles all the time?

We agree that the Prime Minister is entitled to take a vacation with his family. There was a time when politicians could not go on vacation without being perceived as people who do no work. We agree that taking two or three weeks of vacation a year is normal. However, when prime ministers Chrétien, Martin, Mulroney and Harper took vacations, why did they not go to billionaires' islands, to the residences of other millionaires or billionaires or to Jamaica? They were happy with reasonable vacations. Why is this not important to the Prime Minister? He hops on the government jet and flies off to island paradises with no regard for Canadians. It is all sorts of things like that that led us to realize that we can no longer have confidence in someone who thinks that way.

More money was spent at Harrington Lake. The government decided to spend up to $11 million to renovate the facilities at Harrington Lake, to move the guest house closer to the lake. The Prime Minister never goes there, though, so why invest $11 million to move a guest house closer to the lake?

I will talk about other contracts and other weird decisions. Once again, these are sensitive issues. I need to point out that public money was used to hire consultants who are frankly racist. For example, Laith Marouf, who was known to be a raging anti-Semite, received $500,000 from the government for work on racism. Why hire someone who is already known as a racist to do work that does not reflect his mandate? Another crazy decision was to hire Amira Elghawaby to build bridges. Before she was hired, we already knew that she was making racist comments about Quebeckers, among others. Now that she has been appointed, she continues to create disruption instead of building bridges. Why did they hire her, and why do they not fire her now?

I mentioned all these scandals to refresh everyone's memory, but let us not forget that, in today's economy, young people cannot even hope to own a home. Construction is at the same level as in the 1970s. An additional $500 billion in budgetary allocations were adopted, unfortunately with the support of the Bloc Québécois. Canada has the worst growth in the G7. The Prime Minister and his government have spent more than all other prime ministers in Canadian history combined.

It is a long list, and I am running out of time, but we are simply reminding members why we no longer have confidence in this government.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, the issue is where the problem lies. The Conservatives' focus is more on character assassination than anything else.

When the member talks about reviewing the government over the last eight years, he does not refer to things like how no government in the history of Canada has signed off on more trade agreements. When we look at jobs, Stephen Harper created one million jobs, versus two million jobs in the same time frame. We can talk about inflation and working with Canadians; Canada is doing exceptionally well on inflation today at 2%. We can talk about interest rates and how Canada is leading the way in decreases in interest rates.

Canada is not broken, contrary to the consistent messaging from the Conservatives. Why does the member not talk about the real issues affecting Canadians as opposed to nothing but cheap shots and character assassination?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Madam Speaker, my colleague from Abbotsford who sits behind me was the minister of international trade at the time, and he negotiated the free trade agreements. It was Conservative governments that negotiated most, if not nearly all, of the free trade agreements. What the Liberal government did was renew agreements that were originally negotiated by strong Conservative prime ministers who knew what they were talking about.

With regard to the economy, can my colleague explain why it is that we have to take all the GST Canadians pay, that is, $50 billion a year, and send it to New York and London for interest payments because the country's debt has doubled under the current government?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4 p.m.

Bloc

Monique Pauzé Bloc Repentigny, QC

Madam Speaker, my colleagues talked a lot about scandals. I am not sure if it is a scandal or if I should question the Conservatives' word, but when Bill C-319 was at committee, the entire committee voted in favour of the bill. Now that things are getting much more serious with this bill, it seems like the Conservatives are getting cold feet.

Can the member assure me that the Conservatives are not getting cold feet and that they are in favour of increasing old age security for seniors aged 65 to 74?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Madam Speaker, we did support Bill C-319, but at the end of the day, the ball is in the government's court. We no longer have confidence in this government. We do not have confidence in the Prime Minister for a litany of reasons that I could have expanded on for 30 minutes.

I encourage my colleague to support our motion to defeat the government. Afterwards, we will sit down and figure out Quebec and Canada's future together.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Bonita Zarrillo NDP Port Moody—Coquitlam, BC

Madam Speaker, the member raised partisan appointments. Right now, in the United States, women are dying and women are being charged with murder because of the results of partisan appointments reversing Roe v. Wade. That could happen here, if the Conservatives are appointing both senators and judges.

I want to ask the member a question. What is the Conservative position on the right to choose?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Madam Speaker, I said it before and I will say it again. I can repeat it 100,000 times. We are not planning to touch women's rights. We have no plans to touch the right to abortion. We have been clear about that. The leader of the Conservative Party of Canada has been clear. He has said this publicly on many occasions.

The Liberals, the NDP, the Bloc Québécois and everyone can relax. We are not planning to touch those rights.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:05 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Madam Speaker, I find it odd to see this motion before the House today. Here is my question for my Conservative colleague: What does he think is the role of members in the House? Does he not think that it is to represent our constituents?

Does the official opposition not see that two provincial elections have already been called? All of the people in my riding are saying that the Conservative motion is a total joke.

Why now? Why are the Conservatives failing to respect elections and democracy at the provincial level when provincial elections are going on?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Madam Speaker, as I said at the beginning of my speech, memory is not infallible. I think the leader of the Green Party has forgotten that this Liberal government has been a disaster for nine years. For us, there is nothing new under the sun. We are not suddenly moving a motion to bring down the government. We have been saying for quite some time that this is not working. We have only just returned to the House, and it is time to call an election.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Prime Minister and the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Scott Reid Conservative Lanark—Frontenac—Kingston, ON

Madam Speaker, four and a half years ago, on March 11, 2020, the World Health Organization declared a worldwide pandemic, the COVID-19 pandemic. Two days after that, the House of Commons suspended.

About ten days after that, on March 24, it came back in an emergency session with the government's goal of passing a piece of legislation, which at that point had not been shared with the House of Commons, that would give the government, among other things, the power to suspend the House for a year and a half. Supply would be guaranteed to the government for over a year, until December 2021. The government would have the ability to pass new laws by regulations, which is known as a Henry VIII clause because Henry VIII did something similar in his reign 500-odd years ago. We would have seen the suspension of the system we call responsible government, in which the government of the day is responsible to the House of Commons, for a year and a half.

Those of us who were members of Parliament at that time were told to stay home, that it was too dangerous to come to Ottawa and we would be risking our own safety and the safety of others. A series of preposterous arguments was presented as to why we could not meet and how it would be dangerous. We could, of course, have met at the convention centre and been widely spaced; no trade shows were on at the time.

We needed unanimous consent to pass this bill in one shot, so I came here with the intention of denying unanimous consent if no one else would do it. As it turned out, that was not necessary because a number of my Conservative colleagues came here with the same intention, and that attempt to suspend responsible government was stopped. The House of Commons' ability to bring down the government, which would have been pushed through, was stopped.

At the time, I said I would come here one day and talk about the importance of the confidence convention, the history of it and the importance of responsible government. Today is that day.

Let me just read what I said on March 24, 2020. It is on my website:

Indeed, if we are to take our signs from the first draft of Bill C-13, which is to be introduced today..., it would appear that the Government's primary interest is in using the COVID-19 crisis to strip away any Parliamentary oversight whatever, between now and December 2021—twenty-one months in the future [as it then was]....

That contempt for democracy, for civil rights and for the traditions that make Canada the great place it is and give Canada its honoured place in the continuum of the world's great democracies has been the one consistent theme of the government throughout its entire life, starting with the 2015 election of the current Prime Minister and his fallacious, insincere, hypocritical promise that it would be the last election by first past the post. It turned out that it would be the last election by first past the post unless he was faced with the possibility of a system that was not his preferred system, which was preferential, a system that would systematically and predictably favour the Liberal Party. At any rate, here we are, and I want to talk today about the concept of non-confidence.

The Westminster style of government, the model our ancestors would have called responsible government, was developed in near-synchronicity in the United Kingdom and in Britain's North American provinces in the fourth and fifth decades of the 19th century. This system started with a non-confidence vote that took place on November 15, 1830, in the Parliament of Westminster. That vote brought down the administration of the Duke of Wellington, the same Duke of Wellington who defeated Napoleon. The non-confidence vote of April 7, 1835, reinforced that principle, bringing down the government of Sir Robert Peel. This model was emulated in the province of Canada by Baldwin and LaFontaine in the 1840s and also in Nova Scotia, which became the very first jurisdiction in the world, other than the United Kingdom itself, to achieve responsible government.

I want to be clear about this. Through the ability to bring forward motions of confidence, or non-confidence, in the government of the day, responsible government was all about establishing whether the government of the day could or could not command a majority of votes in the elected lower House of Parliament or the legislature.

Here is how the bronze plaque outside Nova Scotia's house of assembly commemorates the event that took place in that jurisdiction:

The First Responsible Government in the British Empire

The first Executive Council—

That is the formal name in British colonies for what we call the cabinet.

—chosen exclusively from the party having a majority in the representative branch of a colonial legislature...on the 2nd February, 1848. Following a vote of want of confidence in the preceding Council, James Boyle Uniacke, who had moved the resolution, became Attorney General and leader of the Government [in other words, the premier]. Joseph Howe, who had long striven for this “Peaceable Revolution,” became Provincial Secretary.

The principle that administrations could be replaced by means of non-confidence votes was adopted only a month later in the province of Canada, when the Baldwin-LaFontaine ministry was sworn in by the governor general, Lord Elgin. In New Brunswick, it was adopted in May of the same year.

As we can see from these examples, there was a time when it was normal practice for confidence motions to result in changes of government without an intervening election. However, that time has passed, and it has been the normal practice for well over a century for successful non-confidence motions to be followed by an election, with the voters being given the option to give their support in that election to the party that moved the non-confidence motion.

This, of course, is what happened in 2006, when a motion of non-confidence in the Liberal government of Paul Martin was followed by the election of Stephen Harper's Conservatives. The voters can also choose to reject the movers of the motion and reaffirm their support for the existing administration, which happened in 2011, when Stephen Harper was elected with an expanded mandate after losing a vote on a confidence motion in the House of Commons.

A motion of non-confidence may be preceded by a long preamble, listing the reasons why the government no longer has the support of a majority in the House. It may, like the motion adopted in 2011, hint darkly at the government's real or purported wrongdoings. Here is what the 2011 confidence motion said:

That the House agree with the finding of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs that the government is in contempt of Parliament, which is unprecedented in Canadian parliamentary history, and consequently, the House has lost confidence in the government.

That is, by the way, a fiction. The procedure and House affairs committee had not submitted its report. I know this because I was in the midst of addressing that draft report when our proceedings were suspended by the vote of non-confidence. The bells started ringing and our meeting suspended. Nonetheless, the vote took place and there was an election.

In 2005, Paul Martin's government was brought down by a motion that simply stated, “That this House has lost confidence in the government.” Today's motion, in that tradition, says simply, “That the House has no confidence in the Prime Minister and the government.”

There is a sense in which the current government has not had the confidence of the Canadian people for some time. In preparation for my remarks today, I wrote down the percentage of the vote that every victorious party has had in a Canadian election going back to 1958.

The current government was elected in 2019 with 33.12% of the vote and in 2021 with only 32.62% of the vote. More than two-thirds of Canadians voted against the current government at that time. This is really bad. In 1958, the year of John Diefenbaker's colossal victory over the Liberals, do members know that the Liberals, who were defeated in their worst defeat ever up to that point in time, had 33.75% of the vote? They got more votes as a percentage than the current government received in either of the last two elections.

What is even more amazing is that when we take into account the percentage of people who actually participated, which was 79% back in 1958 and only 62% in the last election, we learn that the Liberals in 1958, in that colossal defeat, had 26.6% of all eligible voters, whereas only 20.3% of eligible voters voted for the current government. There is a real sense in which the government has not had the support of the Canadian people for some time, and we can see why, based on its phenomenal record of incompetence.

I just want to assert that the time has come to accept the judgment of the Canadian people, to let them have the chance to make the same judgment again and to elect a new government that can bring them the competent and honourable governance they deserve.