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House of Commons Hansard #344 of the 44th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was leader.

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Criminal Code First reading of Bill C-413. The bill amends the Criminal Code to criminalize promoting hatred against Indigenous peoples through denial or downplaying of residential school harms. 200 words.

Petitions

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the Government Members debate a Conservative motion of non-confidence arguing the government doubled housing costs, taxed food, punished work, unleashed crime, and is centralizing. Conservatives propose to "axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime", urging other parties to support an election. Liberals defend their record on social programs, the economy, and climate action, citing government successes like the Canada child benefit and criticizing the motion as a stunt. The Bloc Québécois and NDP state they lack confidence in both major parties but will not support the motion, with the Bloc seeking gains for Quebec and the NDP deeming Conservatives dangerous for Canadians. 43800 words, 5 hours in 3 segments: 1 2 3.

Oral Questions—Speaker's Ruling Speaker rules on points of order regarding disrespectful remarks against non-MPs and fellow Members, addressing recent incidents including the Leader of the Opposition, urging civility, and warning of discipline for unparliamentary conduct. 1100 words, 10 minutes.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the government's record, stating that taxes are up, costs are up, crime is up, and time is up. They highlight doubled housing costs, the carbon tax, and rising crime rates. They repeatedly call for a "carbon tax election" to let Canadians vote for a government that will axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget, and stop the crime. They also mention issues like forestry job losses and government spending.
The Liberals defend their social programs including dental care, child care, and benefits for seniors. They highlight investments in housing, including affordable units and Indigenous housing, while attacking the Conservative record. The party also addresses public safety by banning assault weapons, supports clean energy exports, and defends women's access to contraception. They accuse Conservatives of blocking work and having a hidden agenda.
The Bloc sets an October 29 deadline for the government to act on seniors' benefits (ending age discrimination) and protect supply management (passing Bill C-282). They also criticize the Governor General for not learning French.
The NDP address the housing crisis, including Indigenous housing delays. They raise concerns about veterans' medical insurance for Invictus Games, access to mental health care, and helping families from Gaza. Points of order are also raised regarding member conduct and House rules.

Alleged Failure of Government to Produce Documents—Speaker's Ruling The Speaker rules on a question of privilege regarding the government's alleged failure to fully comply with a House order for documents about Sustainable Development Technology Canada. The Official Opposition argued non-compliance was contempt, while the government cited Charter rights and procedural issues. The Speaker finds a prima facie question of privilege but recommends referral to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs due to the order's unusual nature and concerns from the RCMP and Auditor General. 2100 words.

Reference to Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs Members debate the government's failure to fully provide documents ordered by the House regarding alleged mismanagement and conflicts of interest at Sustainable Development Technology Canada. Conservatives argue the obstruction hides potential criminality. Liberals contend that Parliament ordering documents for the RCMP bypasses judicial oversight and may violate Charter rights. 6500 words, 1 hour.

Adjournment Debates

Impact Assessment Act amendments Elizabeth May criticizes the amended Impact Assessment Act, arguing it fails to fix constitutional issues and weakens environmental protections. James Maloney defends the amendments as necessary to address the Supreme Court's concerns, streamline project assessments, and respect federal-provincial boundaries, while maintaining Indigenous consultation.
Carbon Tax Impact on Canadians Dan Mazier brings forward letters from constituents struggling with the carbon tax. James Maloney suggests they check their rebate and defends carbon pricing as an effective method of reducing emissions and affordable due to rebates. Mazier continues to cite examples of hardship, and Maloney accuses the Conservatives of using rhetoric.
The Overdose Crisis Tracy Gray criticizes the Liberal's "safe supply" drug policies for increasing overdoses and crime, and advocates for treatment and recovery. Élisabeth Brière defends the government's comprehensive approach, emphasizing harm reduction, safe consumption sites, and collaboration with local governments. Gray insists the policies are failing, while Brière cites investments in public health and safety.
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Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:40 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Madam Speaker, it gives me pleasure to rise to speak to this motion. What I see from this motion is the kind of attention-seeking hyperbole that is becoming the trademark of politics south of the border and the trademark of a certain presidential candidate south of the border. It is the kind of discourse that inserts phrases like, “best ever”, “worst economy”, “best market performance”, “nuclear winter”, “mass hunger”, “people never being able to leave their homes and having to turn their temperature down to 13°C” and that kind of hyperbole.

I could say that the phrase from the motion, “the most centralizing government in Canadian history”, forgot to add the superlatives “ever” and “entire”, to read, for example, “the most centralizing government ever in the entire Canadian history” or maybe “human history”. Why not? It is the language of the sloganeer.

What are the yardsticks for making such sweeping statements? Let us look at our Canadian history. Let us look at Conservative governments, policies and actions that could be seen as centralizing, even if we consider those past initiatives to be good nation-building initiatives of another, more constructive, brand of Canadian conservatism.

Let us go back in history. CN has been in the news quite a bit. Who created CN, a Crown corporation and national railway company that extended from sea to sea and could be seen as too centralizing by some today? It was Prime Minister Robert Borden.

Let us talk about the CBC, the Conservatives' bugbear. How did the CBC get started? It was started in some way with CN, because in the early days CN was looking for ways to keep its passengers entertained, so they created a kind of radio network, an entertainment system of the day, for their trains, and then that kind of morphed into an organization called CNR Radio. In 1932, on the heels of that, R.B. Bennett established CBC's predecessor, the Canadian Radio Broadcasting Commission.

I have just been reminded that I will be sharing my time with the member for Winnipeg North, and I apologize for forgetting to say that at the beginning.

On the environment, which is a weak point for the Conservative opposition, it was the Conservatives under Brian Mulroney who created national, or so-called “centralizing”, environmental legislation. CEPA, the Canadian Environmental Protection Act, was enacted in 1988 by Mr. Mulroney. It was designed to provide a systematic national approach to assessing and managing chemical substances in the environment, as well as to create criminal law offences for polluters.

Quebec probably saw that centralization as an unwelcome intrusion into provincial jurisdiction at the time. I would think that would be the case, because Hydro-Québec, a provincial Crown corporation, went up against the federal government in court to argue that the federal government had no jurisdiction and that it was essentially invading provincial jurisdiction, but the Supreme Court of Canada found that the federal government did have jurisdiction and that this was a matter of national interest, and therefore criminal law power was justified.

Let us look at national parks. The Canadian national park system began in November 1885, when the federal government of Sir John A. Macdonald set aside an area of approximately 26 square kilometres on the northern slopes of Alberta's Sulphur Mountain for public use. I suppose in today's terms it would be seen as an intrusion by the federal government into provincial jurisdiction.

Conservatives used to say that they liked to stand up for conserving our heritage, natural and otherwise, but today's Conservatives, to me here on this side of the House, seem to be more interested in upending the system by leveraging populist sentiment and by farming anger.

Let us look at, more recently, the unfair elections act, which is a perfect example of a heavy-handed approach by a federal government with a majority. As a matter of fact, the sponsor of the legislation was the current Leader of the Opposition. Of course, the government was using its majority's power to attempt to suppress votes in what was, as they say, a heavy-handed and top-down approach.

There has been some Liberal centralization too, for example with national medicare and the Canada pension plan. If I may say, partly in jest, because this is a good-natured debate, I think the Conservatives are envious that these were not their ideas, so envious that they are trying to dismantle them.

What is the most decentralizing form of human organization known to man, a mechanism so decentralized and so out of the government's reach, a vehicle of citizen agency synonymous with the words “freedom” and “democracy”, the very antidote to centralization? The answer is the market and its price mechanism, what we call the invisible hand that allows society to grow and prosper anonymously through trillions of individual relationships outside the purview and control of the state.

Since the motion mentions the price on carbon, let us be clear that there is no carbon tax; the Supreme Court has said so. We know that Conservatives do not respect the court much, but the Supreme Court has said the price on carbon is not a carbon tax because the money is returned. It is not a tax. That is not my opinion; that is the opinion of the justices of the Supreme Court.

Let me read a quote from a recent analysis by Andrew Coyne in The Globe and Mail, on the Conservative approach to environmental policy. We all know that Andrew Coyne is a clear-eyed, incisive journalist and certainly not a Liberal Party cheerleader. I think Andrew Coyne's is an extremely objective voice. This is what he says about Conservative environmental policy:

The Conservative position [is], as near anyone can make it out...that climate change should be fought, if at all, not by harnessing the power of the free market, but by central planning, a mix of command and control regulation and government subsidy...

How much more efficient is pricing carbon to the alternatives? Some years ago the Ecofiscal Commission, a group of environmental economists, estimated the economic costs of a carbon tax, sufficient to meet Canada's internationally agreed emissions-reduction targets, at 0.05% of GDP annually.

The cost of the regulation-first approach, by contrast, it put up to 0.8% of GDP: 16 times as much. At a time when growth is expected to average just 1.6%, it's huge.

What we see in the rejection of the price on carbon, a mechanism that Milton Friedman, the Leader of the Opposition's economic hero, his favourite economist, agreed with as the best way to fight pollution, is a rejection of the market approach. We see a government that is favouring instead, as Andrew Coyne said, a “command and control” system. That is about as centralizing and as top-down an approach as one can get. I think the party opposite should maybe look at itself in the mirror in that regard.

The Conservative Party claims it believes in provincial autonomy and staying out of provincial jurisdiction, yet the Leader of the Opposition tells cities that if they do not do what he says to solve the housing crisis, he will punish them. I think that Conservative policies and actions do not match the rhetoric of the motion.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:50 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

The hon. member for Kingston and the Islands is rising on a point of order.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:50 p.m.

Liberal

Mark Gerretsen Liberal Kingston and the Islands, ON

Madam Speaker, the Conservatives are so bad at this confidence stuff that they do not even have quorum in the House. Perhaps we could have a quorum call.

And the count having been taken:

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:50 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

We have quorum now.

Questions and comments, the hon. member for Sarnia—Lambton

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:50 p.m.

Conservative

Marilyn Gladu Conservative Sarnia—Lambton, ON

Madam Speaker, perhaps the member opposite is unaware of what is happening in the country, where 70% of Canadians want to get rid of the carbon tax and 70% of Canadians are very unhappy with the performance of the Liberal government.

If he thinks the Liberals' plans are so fantastic, why does he not give Canadians what they want and call a carbon tax election?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Madam Speaker, there is a lot of work left to do in the best interests of Canadians. We know that dental care is in the process of being rolled out. We know that the opposition does not believe dental care exists, even though people are signing up and even though dentists are signing up. The third phase of the program needs to be rolled out, and an election now would interrupt that. We cannot take that risk.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Bloc

Marie-Hélène Gaudreau Bloc Laurentides—Labelle, QC

Madam Speaker, now I understand why we get so few answers during question period. It is because we call it “question period” and not “question and answer period”.

This afternoon, perhaps we can dare to hope that the government will give us an answer. My question is very simple. I want to know if the government is going to proceed with the irreversible implementation of two bills that the Bloc Québécois has been championing for months, namely, Bill C‑319 to increase old age security for people aged 65 to 74, and the famous Bill C‑282 on supply management.

Could I have an answer?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Madam Speaker, unfortunately, I am not part of the government. I am a duly elected member of Parliament, but I do not hold a cabinet position.

As far as old age security is concerned, obviously there is a financial framework. There are many programs that could be improved. There is the Canada child benefit, the Canada disability benefit. We could improve the child care system. Choices have to be made. I am not the Minister of Finance. I might have an opinion, but it is not up to me to decide.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

NDP

Rachel Blaney NDP North Island—Powell River, BC

Madam Speaker, I quite enjoyed the hon. member's interesting speech. I know that a couple of other members really could not control their laughter at some points, and I appreciate some entertainment in the House.

In my riding of North Island—Powell River, there are a lot of health issues, especially around the health care system. There are a lot of emergency rooms in smaller communities that are having to be shut because there are not enough people to staff them. It is an ongoing issue.

I am just wondering whether the member shares the concern that I have, although I do not think the Liberals are giving as much money as they should. The Conservatives seem very interested in privatizing, which of course will mean that rural and remote communities will have many fewer services and that there is going to be an even worse epidemic where people, if they cannot pay, will not be able to access health care.

Could the member speak to that?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Madam Speaker, I am extremely concerned about the health care system. Many of my constituents are afraid to get sick. They would not know where to turn. They do not want to go to the emergency department. They might have to wait 48 hours and get sick while they are at emergency.

The federal government is a funder of health care, and a recent study showed that we have increased our transfers to the provinces for health care faster and more greatly than the provinces have spent on health care. I think that perhaps provincial governments need to make the reforms, because it is a provincial jurisdiction even though it is partly federally funded. They need to spend the money required to ensure that people can have a family doctor and that, if they are sick, they can get care in a reasonably quick manner.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

Madam Speaker, I have a quick question for my colleague. I know he talked about dental care and how important that is. In my riding, Louis-Hébert, 88% of eligible seniors, or 9,200 seniors, have signed up for the program. For the rest of the population, those aged 18 to 64, they will be eligible somewhere around June 2025. What impact will this have on the lives of these citizens, on Canadians across the country?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:55 p.m.

Liberal

Francis Scarpaleggia Liberal Lac-Saint-Louis, QC

Madam Speaker, it will have a tremendous impact. I think it was the Minister of Health who mentioned it the other day during question period. Thanks to the program, people can now get a dental checkup. Some dentists have already found cancers. We can expect many lives to be saved under this program.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, it is a pleasure to rise and speak today, even though it is the second day we are having a confidence vote. We cannot help but notice a definite lack of enthusiasm from across the way if we contrast today to last Tuesday. I suspect there was a bit of an accountability check on Wednesday when the Conservative Party did not get what it wanted.

What the Conservatives want is not what is in the best interest of Canadians. They want what is in the best interest of the Conservative Party and its leader. That is why I often talk about their thirst and quest for power. They let nothing get in their way, according to the Conservatives. They strive for power for the sake of having power, and power alone. We have seen that virtually from day one with the Conservatives being the official opposition.

I want to approach it in a different way, because I only have 10 minutes this time around, and talk about some of the things we know about the Conservative Party, or what I like to refer to as the Conservative-Reform party. When I say Conservative-Reform party, I do not say it lightly. At the end of the day, we see a party that has taken a very hard right turn.

Many, including myself, would suggest the Conservative Party has adopted many of the thoughts and ideas that flow from our neighbours to the south, the far right or the MAGA right. We should all be concerned about that because there is a very strong negative side to it. We see it through things like character assassination, the spreading of misinformation and the discrediting of our traditional media. These are things we should all be aware of.

I want to highlight some things I think most Canadians would be very surprised and disappointed by. One of them is in regard to the Canada Infrastructure Bank. We hear Conservative members say they are going to get rid of the Canada Infrastructure Bank. Many of them will say the Canada Infrastructure Bank has not done anything, and therefore, they are going to get rid of it and save money for Canadians. However, nothing could be further from the truth.

I can give the facts right now. We have $10 billion of investment coming through the public, matched by virtually $20 billion of outside investment. We have $30 billion being spent throughout different regions. Every region is receiving money and support in building Canada's infrastructure. We know that. Anyone can look it up and they can see it first-hand. However, the leader of the Conservative Party, who will likely be addressing the House soon, does not have a problem giving misinformation and saying the Canada Infrastructure Bank has not done anything and the Conservatives are going to get rid of it.

The biggest myth out there is this whole idea that the people of Canada will benefit from getting rid of the carbon rebate. Conservatives go out and tell Canadians they are going to “axe the tax”, or get rid of the carbon tax, but they say nothing about the rebate. They say nothing about the 80% of Canadians who receive more money as a direct result of this particular policy. That is a fact. It is not something that is coming just from members of the Liberal Party.

It was not that long ago that all parties in the House agreed that a price on pollution is an effective tool. The government has developed a tool to ensure that the vast majority of Canadians, 80% or more, are receiving more back. That does not match up with the Conservatives' bumper sticker or slogans.

It is just like the housing issue. When the Conservatives talk about it, they say they are going to get out there and build more homes. History will show that one of the worst individuals we could ever turn to to deal with the housing issue is in fact the leader of the Conservative Party, because he was the minister of housing. As has been pointed out by numerous members, when he was the minister he was an absolute disaster. One reason we have the problem to the extent we have today is his lack of action when he was the minister of housing. By the way, for the record, he built six houses.

Some of the greatest accomplishments of the government, I believe, outside of things like the $198 billion toward health care and the many progressive measures the Liberals have taken, are some of the economic measures. No government in the history of Canada has signed off on more trade agreements than this Prime Minister and this government. That is a fact. Liberals recognize the value in supporting Canada's middle class, and those aspiring to be part of it, by freeing up and opening those trade lines that are critical to Canada's future. We have been very successful at that.

For the first time ever, the Conservative Party actually voted against one of our trade agreements. Amazingly, it was the Canada-Ukraine trade agreement. It was because of an issue that the Conservative leader, in principle, did not like, even though Ukraine has a price on pollution. The things we hear that come from the Conservative Party are borderline at best. I would suggest that most often they are of a very ridiculous nature. Trying to flush out the Conservatives' issues is a challenge. What do they have to say about dental care? They vote against it. What do they have to say about child care? Do members remember that in the last election they said they were going to tear it up?

These are the types of programs that are helping Canadians in every region. Therefore, when we get members talking about the Conservative hidden agenda, people should be concerned. When Conservatives talk about things like fixing the budget, that is code for Conservative cuts. They are not going to provide the types of programs we have been able to put together over the last number of years that benefit literally millions of Canadians. These things are at risk, because the Conservatives are more focused on trying to fool Canadians. That is what they are banking on. They want the election as soon as possible because they believe that the longer the House sits, it is slipping away from them.

Canadians will become more aware of the leader of the Conservative Party and what he actually stands for. As we see the contrast between the government of the day and what Conservatives have to offer, as we continue to work for Canadians while the Conservatives play games, prevent things from ultimately passing and play an obstructive role here in the chamber, Canadians will see through that. Ultimately, we will continue to serve Canadians in a very productive way from now until the—

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:10 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

The hon. member for Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Clifford Small Conservative Coast of Bays—Central—Notre Dame, NL

Madam Speaker, crime is rampant in rural Canada. Last night at a town hall in Stoneville, in Notre Dame Bay, a part of my riding, with RCMP present, terrified seniors told of having been threatened that they would be burned out of their homes or burned in their beds. Seventy-five-year-old retirees who worked hard all their lives for a safe Canada are sleeping with baseball bats next to their beds in Gander. A few weeks ago in Lewisporte, an RCMP squad car was vandalized. It was spray-painted with the words “back off” by criminals in rural Canada. There are towns of fewer than 1,000 people in my riding with five crack houses operating, where teenage girls are being sold into prostitution. These are children of the people we represent.

It is time to stop the crime. How can this member support the NDP-Liberal coalition that has let this rot and this crime creep into rural Canada, in places like Notre Dame Bay in my riding?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, the leader of the Conservative Party addressed his national caucus just before coming in. This is part of what he said: “There would be mass hunger and malnutrition with a tax this high...our seniors would have to turn the heat down to 14 or 13 C just to make it through the winter.... Inflation would run rampant and people would not be able to leave their homes or drive anywhere.” This is the type of extreme, MAGA, right attitude and propaganda the Conservatives spill every day, just like what we heard opposite.

There was the bail reform bill that was supported—

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:10 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

The hon. member for Louis-Hébert.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

Madam Speaker, I want to get a bit of mileage out of the question my Conservative colleague just asked. I do not think that there is a single member in the House who does not want to reduce crime in Canada and ensure that our communities are safe. Sometimes there are different approaches to this.

If this is so important to the Conservatives, can my colleague explain why, under their reign, we observed a series of cuts to our intelligence agencies, the border services, and the police forces that fall under the federal government's responsibility?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, it is important to recognize that Ottawa worked with all the different provinces and we brought in bail reform, which we were ultimately able to pass even with the Conservative Party dragging and kicking, because they did obstruct it. That was something we worked on with the provinces, and the provinces are the administrator. In regard to how important it is to deal with crime, we do not take anything for granted. That is one of the reasons we conducted the automobile theft inquiry. Prior to that, the leader of the Conservative Party was nowhere; he did not even raise the issue until we raised the issue. These are the types of responsible things Liberals are doing as government, working with Canadians to make them feel safe in their communities.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Lisa Marie Barron NDP Nanaimo—Ladysmith, BC

Madam Speaker, one thing I am not hearing the Conservatives speak about, which I am hoping the member can share his thoughts on, is the horrific attacks on the right of Canadians to access comprehensive, safe reproductive health care, including abortions. It is very problematic and concerning to see the Conservative Party putting forth petitions and legislation attacking these rights.

I am wondering if the member can speak to this and share his thoughts, but I also wonder why we have not seen the Liberals taking the action required to ensure these rights are accessible for all Canadians. We have seen a decrease in access to this vital care in rural communities, for example.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Madam Speaker, as a government, Liberals have brought forward pharmacare. Free contraception is one of our first initiatives on the pharmacare file, and I am hoping we will be able to expand. I have talked about shingles in the past. There are so many Canadians who would benefit. A national pharmacare program is something Canadians would value. Unfortunately, the Conservative Party has made it very clear it does not support a national pharmacare plan. I find that unfortunate because it is something Canadians want.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:15 p.m.

Carleton Ontario

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre ConservativeLeader of the Opposition

Madam Speaker, I will simply read the motion and then go over each item to prove that no one can vote against it.

That, given that, after nine years, the government has doubled housing costs, taxed food, punished work, unleashed crime, and is the most centralizing government in Canadian history, the House has lost confidence in the government and offers Canadians the option to axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime.

Let us start with the first point: that “the government has doubled housing costs”. There is no debating that. It is basic math. Unfortunately, we have a Prime Minister who says that the economy is not numbers or figures, it is people. Rent is a number. The cost of a mortgage is a number. When someone buys a house, the price is measured in numbers. Numbers control the universe.

Here are the facts. The average rent for a one-bedroom apartment in 2015 was $973. Now it is $1,877. It has doubled. For a two-bedroom apartment, again, rent has doubled from $1,172 to $2,337. That is twice as much. The amount needed for a down payment on an average home has doubled from $22,000 to $47,000. That is twice as much. The mortgage payment for an average new home was $1,400 in 2015. Now it is $3,000. It has doubled. There is no debating that.

Let us move on to the next point, which is that the government “taxed food”. People may agree with the Prime Minister and the leader of the Bloc Québécois that a carbon tax is good. People may think that a 61¢-a-litre tax is the best idea in the history of the world, but they cannot deny that it increases the cost of food because farmers use fossil fuels to power their machinery. Truckers have to use diesel. This is the first carbon tax, and it applies across Canada. It applies to Quebec indirectly because all the food produced in and transported from the rest of Canada costs more. The second carbon tax, which the federal government is imposing with the support of the Bloc Québécois, will increase the cost of gas by 17¢ a litre. That will directly increase farmers' costs, and therefore consumers' costs as well. There is no debating the fact that the government is taxing food.

The third point says that the government has “punished work”. According to the Fraser Institute, recognized as the most prestigious academic institute in the country, 80% of middle-class Canadians are paying more taxes than they used to. Taxes penalize work. People who work harder pay more. That is penalizing work. On top of that, the government has blocked a number of natural resource development projects. It is allowing the Americans to kill forestry jobs. It is considering issuing a radical Liberal order on caribou that will kill jobs and punish work at the same time. There is no debate on that either. The government is punishing work.

It is also allowing crime to spiral out of control. The Liberals passed three main bills. The legislation arising from Bill C‑75 provides for the automatic release of criminals, and crime in Canada has increased by 50%. Gun crime has increased by 121%. Despite spending $69 million, the Liberals have failed to remove a single rifle banned in Canada since their big election announcements on this issue. Today, gun crime is up, as is crime in general. In addition, 47,000 people have lost their lives to drug overdoses since the government liberalized drugs. There is no debating that. Since this government came to power, there has been more crime.

Lastly, this is a centralizing government. We have seen excessive centralization. There is no need for me to argue this point, since the House leader of the Bloc Québécois has done it for me. He said, and I quote, “For the first time in history, excessive centralization became a fact of life. Despite its difficulty in managing its own responsibilities, this government started poking its nose into the jurisdictions of Quebec and the provinces.”

This is the biggest, most centralizing and most costly government. It added 100,000 public servants, who meddle in Quebec's business. It doubled spending on consultants. It doubled the debt. This centralizing and costly government punishes work, taxes food and doubled the cost of housing. The evidence is clear. That is why Quebeckers deserve to choose a government that will axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime. That is exactly want we are proposing.

We are calling on all the opposition parties to show their independence from this centralizing government and vote to allow their constituents to choose a new government that would allow Canadians to bring home a bigger paycheque to buy food and gas in a safe community. That is common sense.

I am going to be very clinical here and simply read the motion and prove it is true. It states:

That, given that, after nine years, the government has doubled housing costs, taxed food, punished work, unleashed crime, and is the most centralizing government in Canadian history, the House has lost confidence in the government and offers Canadians the option to axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime.

Let us go through the items one by one.

Did the Liberals double housing costs? Let us look at prices. In 2015, the average rent for a one-bedroom was $973 and today it is $1,877. In 2015, the average cost of monthly rent for a two-bedroom was $1,072 and today it is $2,337. In 2015, the average down payment needed for a new home was $22,000 and today it is $47,000. In 2015, the average mortgage payment on an average new home was $1,400 and today it is $3,020. There is no debate; it is double trouble when it comes to housing.

Are the Liberals taxing food? Well, they admit they are taxing diesel, which is what powers combines, tractors and other equipment. They admit they are taxing the natural gas that dries the grains in the silos. They admit they are taxing the truckers who bring us our food. There is no debate there. They want to quadruple that tax to 61¢ a litre. There is no debate on that either.

Are the Liberals punishing work? They have increased income taxes on 80% of middle-class people.

Are the Liberals unleashing crime? Violent crime is up 50% and gun crime is up 120%.

Are the Liberals a centralist government? They doubled their debt. They have doubled the amount of money for consultants.

All of these points are proven. That is why Canadians deserve the chance to elect a common-sense Conservative government that will axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime so that hard work earns a powerful paycheque that buys affordable food and homes in safe neighbourhoods where the promise of Canada is restored in the freest country on earth, Canada. Let us bring it home.

I am splitting my time with the member for Toronto—St. Paul's.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Liberal

Joël Lightbound Liberal Louis-Hébert, QC

Madam Speaker, I want to thank the Leader of the Opposition for his interesting speech. I would like to ask him two questions that directly affect people in the Quebec City area.

The first question has to do with the tramway. Quebec City is the only city of its size in North America that does not have an integral public transit system. This summer there was some confusion. The Quebec lieutenant for the Conservative Party, who is sitting right next to him, said that, even if the Conservatives came to power, there would still be funding for the tramway. He then quickly changed his mind and said that, no matter how far along the project was, a Conservative federal government would not be providing funding. This directly affects residents of Quebec City. The Conservatives can confer on the benches and respond directly. Where do they stand on the tramway? Are they going to provide funding for it?

My second question for the Leader of the Opposition is this. There are 8,200 seniors in Sainte-Foy, Sillery and Cap-Rouge in my riding who have enrolled in the dental plan that we introduced and who have benefited from it over the past year. There will be a lot more people who will benefit next year when the program is opened to people between the ages of 18 and 64. What does he have to say to them? This is very real care that seniors in my riding received thanks to this program. I would like to hear his thoughts on that.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON

Madam Speaker, we will not interfere in Quebec's business by forcing people to have a tramway. I know that the “Liberal Bloc” wants to force people to have a tramway that would cost at least $15,000 per family, even though the people do not want it. I respect the will of Quebeckers, who want a third link. I know that the Liberals are against the third link. The Bloc Québécois wants to interfere in Quebec's jurisdiction to stop Quebec from building a third link.

What would I say to seniors in the member's riding? I am aware of the fact that they cannot pay for groceries because this government's inflation is stopping them from eating. Often, they are forced to use food banks. It is unfortunate—

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

4:25 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker (Mrs. Alexandra Mendès) Alexandra Mendes

I have to give another person the opportunity to ask a question.

The hon. member for Laurentides—Labelle.