House of Commons Hansard #344 of the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was leader.

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Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Karina Gould Liberal Burlington, ON

Madam Speaker, my hon. colleague for Hamilton Centre and I are neighbours. We can see each other's ridings from the Burlington Bay.

I appreciate the member's question, but I also think it is a bit unfair, given the fact that one of the first things this government did was overturn the anti-union legislation from the Harper Conservatives nine years ago. We have also put forward pay equity legislation, which is extraordinarily important, and, most recently, the anti-scab legislation as well.

We very much support workers' rights. We very much support the labour movement in Canada. We know how important it is to building a prosperous and equitable future.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Tim Louis Liberal Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Madam Speaker, I was fortunate to be elected by the people of Kitchener—Conestoga in 2019 and 2021 with a clear mandate to work together across party lines. The pandemic was an example of all parties working together very well to get us through. However, something changed when the current Conservative leader happened, and now, all of a sudden, there is obstruction at every step of the way, including obstructing dental care, the national child care program and school food program. Other parties are still working together well, and we are making progress.

Could my colleague highlight some other examples of where the Conservatives seem to be obstructing, and how we and the other parties can still work together to ensure Canadians get the support they deserve?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:05 a.m.

Liberal

Karina Gould Liberal Burlington, ON

Madam Speaker, what we have seen since the House returned a week ago is that the Conservatives have tried to obstruct the business of the House at every single opportunity. They are trying to create a narrative that this place cannot work, but in fact it is only the Conservative Party of Canada members who are putting forward obstruction motions in the chamber and at committee.

Parliamentarians in three other parties are here to work on behalf of Canadians. We know that Canadians want to see their political leaders working together. Unfortunately, that is not something the Conservatives do. They would rather take their ball and go home.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:05 a.m.

Conservative

Todd Doherty Conservative Cariboo—Prince George, BC

Madam Speaker, there have been 47,000 overdose deaths since 2016. Overdose is the leading cause of death for youth aged 10 to 18 in my province of British Columbia. Thousands upon thousands of forestry workers right across our country are out of work. There are mill closures, job losses and scandal after scandal. We have the most corrupt Prime Minister in the history of our country. It is a government that has spent more money than all governments combined in the history of our country.

Is this the record of which the House leader is so proud? There have been 47,000 overdose deaths since 2016. The leading cause of death in my province for youth aged 10 to 18 is overdose. There is corruption and scandal. Is this the record on which the House leader wants to stand?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

I do want to remind the member. He attributed an adjective toward the Prime Minister that was not acceptable. Again, we are going into personal attacks and I would ask members not to do that.

The hon. government House leader.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Karina Gould Liberal Burlington, ON

Madam Speaker, every member in the House is seized with the opioid tragedy and crisis. Our government has been working with provinces, municipalities and providers on the ground to try to stem the flow and to ensure we are supporting people who have addictions, but also to ensure we are preventing deaths. Unlike on the other side, we are not allowing ideology to dictate how we are moving forward. We are doing this based on science.

However, one more thing that is really important, Madam Speaker, if you will allow me, is that when he talks about—

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

I do want to allow for one more brief question.

The hon. member for Berthier—Maskinongé.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, as government leader, my colleague must be in the know. I would like her to apprise me of the status of Bill C‑234, because our Conservative colleagues have been yelling non-stop against the carbon tax.

Quite reasonably, an exemption was created in Bill C‑234. I would like my colleague to tell me whether what I heard is true. It seems to me that so many speakers are being added that we will never be able to pass this bill.

Is it true? Could the vote happen soon?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

Liberal

Karina Gould Liberal Burlington, ON

Madam Speaker, clearly there is a party that is directing its senators in the other chamber, and that is the Conservative Party. All the other senators are independent, but there is only one party where the senators are directed, and that is in the Conservative Party.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

Before listening to the next speech, I would just like to remind members to ensure that their remarks are free of personal attacks, and that they speak instead about the motion or legislation before the House. I believe that things will run more smoothly in the House if people follow this guideline.

The hon. member for Berthier—Maskinongé.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, I think I was a bit hasty in phrasing my question to the leader of the government. We misunderstood one another, but I will come back to this in my speech. I would like her to listen to what I am going to say, and I would like to receive information on Bill C‑234.

I would just add that I will be sharing my time with my colleague from Saint-Jean.

Getting back to the motion before the House, I would like to start by saying that our Conservative colleagues are not being serious. They are mocking us today. I say that because, two days ago, they moved a non-confidence motion that said the House does not have confidence in the Prime Minister. That is all it said. Our response was that we found it interesting that they thought that. Let me reassure them. We do not trust anyone. We do not have confidence in the current government and we do not have confidence in any Conservative government. My job is to protect the interests of Quebec until we are independent. That is our job. We are trying to make progress every day. We will continue to do so, despite the Leader of the Opposition's ambitions and his propensity for stamping his feet. He really wants to be emperor, replacing the current emperor. We told them that it was not enough. We will vote on motions with some substance. Two days later, with more theatrics, they come up with the idea of including their slogan in the motion, thinking that we would definitely vote with them. How can anyone take them seriously?

I find it quite sad. I am not making personal attacks, I am talking about the content. As members know, I focus on content, and I want things to move forward. We tell them that it is not good enough and that we are going to vote for things that are important to Quebec. They come back with a motion saying it is time to “axe the tax, build the homes, fix the budget and stop the crime”, which they repeat to us ad nauseam, approximately 72 times a day, without ever explaining it. That is what I find interesting. I want to hear them explain what they are going to do.

They tell us in the motion that food has been taxed. I just spoke on Bill C‑234, which deals with the carbon tax we keep hearing about. As we in the Bloc Québécois are reasonable people, we agreed to create an exemption for grain drying. The bill already went to the Senate and has come back to the House. All that remains is to vote on it. The first speech I made in the House last January dealt with this, but since then, people claiming to want to make life easier for farmers have been blocking the legislation. They are adding speakers to fill the time and they are not allowing us to vote on the bill. Once we vote on it, it will be settled, provided we accept the Senate amendments, of course. That is the reasonable, intelligent and rational choice that the Bloc team has made, because that is how we operate.

The Conservatives keep yelling at me that the government is taxing food, but I would like them to show me that they do not plan to do the same. Results do not matter to them. What they want is an election. They are scheming for power. Nothing else matters. All they want is to score political points, spout slogans, generate sound bites and rake in money. They are not working for the people.

They talk to us about housing. Many times I have heard government representatives say that the Leader of the Opposition, while serving as housing minister, created something like six affordable housing units. I must confess, I did not check this figure. We hear it often. There must be some truth to it, although we should exercise caution. Everything said in the House is not necessarily true. We have to be careful. There is no proof. We will be careful.

People talk to us about interference and a centralist government, but the opposition leader is directly threatening cities with funding cuts if he does not like the look of the mayor. That is quite something. We are hearing that if a mayor is incompetent, their funding will be cut. First of all, he has no right to do that in Quebec. That has to go through Quebec. There is more to it than that.

They might be angry because they received only 12% of the vote in LaSalle—Émard—Verdun. They are hot and bothered about getting a more positive vote, maybe. Even yesterday, members began saying that the Bloc Québécois was no longer party of the regions because we captured a Montreal riding. That is interesting. We in the Bloc work for everyone.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

An hon. member

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Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:10 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, we are indeed a party of and for the regions, but if my colleague wants to ask questions, he can do so after my speech. I will be pleased to answer. I have been speaking for five minutes already. It is crazy how fast it goes.

We are here to make gains for Quebec. We have two conditions. We want our seniors to have a decent standard of living. There has been enough dilly-dallying. Seniors aged 65 to 74 need money just as much as seniors aged 75 and up. Let us not create new discrimination. Let us let them make a little more money before taxing them on that income.

The other big thing is the protection of supply management in future trade negotiations. That one is the easiest condition to meet because our bill is already before the Senate, which started working on it yesterday evening. We are very pleased about that, even though we have learned some rather troubling things. I want to point out that the bill is getting a lot of support from senators, but there is also some opposition. I think that we we need to go talk to those people. We really need to put a rush on this. We need to move forward faster. The House passed this bill in June 2023 and now it is September 2024. I would have expected the Senate to examine this bill in September or October of 2023, but it seems as though it was set aside. It is a private member's bill, which means that it less of a priority than government bills.

It is no ordinary private member's bill, however. It obtained official approval from the executive branch of the government via the minister of agriculture and agri-food at the time. It is a serious bill, and the government supports it. If it really supports it, it should support it in the Senate as well, yet that is not what we have seen until very recently. It is good that the subject was raised in the Senate yesterday. The committee chair wanted to reassure us by saying that they had other fish to fry, but now that they had started working on it, it would not take long. We want to believe them, and we are watching. The senators are aware of our deadline here, that is, the end of October. The bill needs to be studied. I do not expect every senator to vote in favour of it, but I expect the bill to be studied on the Senate floor. We are certain we can win the vote, because we got an overwhelming majority in the House of Commons with 262 votes for and 51 votes against. Even a majority of Conservatives voted in favour of the bill, despite all the obstruction. I want to point out that the bill is getting similar support in the Senate. I have people on my side.

Things need to move forward. Why do we need to move forward? Because it is not certain whether we will get another chance to protect supply management in the near future, and because more international negotiations are coming. Yesterday we heard several times that there will be a review of the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement, or CUSMA. Before reviewing CUSMA, can we clarify our mandates? There is a way of clarifying mandates. In terms of supply management, they did their part. It is almost 10% in every sector. It is even worse for milk at 18%. As someone I know well would say, that is enough, anything more will be untenable. That is what is happening, because people need to understand that supply management is a balancing act. Prices are controlled, market supply is controlled. To be able to do that, we need to control what is coming in from outside. With milk at 18%, that means one quart of milk out of every five will be coming from outside. It has not happened yet, but we are getting there gradually. It will be difficult to maintain a balance. More than that and it collapses. It will not work any more.

If people have no intention of protecting supply management, then they should be honest with the farmers and say so. They should uphold the value of the incredible system they put in place, that preserves family businesses, that preserves the vitality in each of our regions, that allows businesses to run, from the Gaspé to Abitibi and to Montérégie with the same transportation costs. The supply management system is so good, so effective. It provides a very stable ecosystem for all other agricultural production.

I could go on all day, as I am sure you know. Unfortunately, I have only a few seconds left. I have 15 seconds left to tell you that this needs to get moving. My message to my Conservative friends today, whose questions I am looking forward to answering, is let us be serious. Let us be serious and work on the issues. There is going to be an election, do not worry. Our decision not to trigger an election today is not made out of fear.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:20 a.m.

NDP

The Assistant Deputy Speaker NDP Carol Hughes

I want to remind the member that he is to address his comments and questions through the Chair and not directly to the government or opposition members.

The hon. member for Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:20 a.m.

Conservative

Dominique Vien Conservative Bellechasse—Les Etchemins—Lévis, QC

Madam Speaker, I listened carefully to our Bloc Québécois colleague's speech. I have a very simple question for him. I will start by reminding him that Quebec's head of state, François Legault, and his government have made it clear that they no longer have confidence in this Liberal government.

Who does the member think better represents Quebec's interests? The Government of Quebec, which was democratically elected by a majority, or the Bloc Québécois?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:20 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague for her question. It is a very interesting one, and I have a lot to say about it.

When the Bloc Québécois says that we speak on behalf of Quebec, that means we champion the National Assembly's unanimous motions here in the House. We are waiting. If a unanimous motion is adopted to that effect, we will evaluate it. There is no such motion now, however.

Since we are talking about the Government of Quebec and respect for the Government of Quebec, I hope my colleague will take the time to answer a question. I hope she will give a speech later on in response to my question. As a former member of the Quebec government that joined the carbon exchange with California, what are her thoughts on the fact that she is now a member of a political party that wants to abolish pollution pricing in the rest of Canada? That would have a hugely detrimental effect on Quebec and put us at a disadvantage in this system.

Perhaps, as she reflects on that tonight, she will understand why we are separatists. It is time to get out of here.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:20 a.m.

Glengarry—Prescott—Russell Ontario

Liberal

Francis Drouin LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food

Madam Speaker, I have a great deal of respect for my colleague. I also have the good fortune to work with him on the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food.

Of course, I supported Bill C‑282, as did our government. I am well aware that the Leader of the Opposition and his local riding association have twice raised the idea of getting rid of supply management with his political party. The possibility exists that the House leader of the official opposition could become the minister of foreign affairs. He once described Brexit as a good thing.

I would like my colleague to help me understand the political game that the Conservatives are playing at the expense of farmers, specifically when it comes to Bill C‑234.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague for his question and for his usual collaboration.

Indeed, this is something I find deeply disturbing. We are asked to refrain from making personal attacks and stick to debating content, so I will address the grain farmers of Canada. They should call Conservative members and ask them to move forward with a vote on Bill C‑234 before the government is defeated, possibly at the end of October.

That is a good idea. They should call Conservative members and ask them why the House is not voting on Bill C‑234. The bill has passed in the Senate. If the amendments are accepted, the bill will come into force almost automatically. Farmers would get the exemption right away. I strongly advise farmers to call Conservative members.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:25 a.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Madam Speaker, while the Conservatives prefer to engage in divisive politics, this morning, I prefer to celebrate Canadians' hard work. I would like to offer my congratulations to the community of Timmins. It is a proud and vibrant community that is an essential part of Franco-Ontarian culture. Congratulations Timmins on the opening of the new La Ronde cultural centre.

I hope my colleagues will also lend their support to this project, which is so important for the francophone community.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, that question does not really have anything to do with the subject we are debating, but the Bloc Québécois will always defend the French language. Obviously, we defend Quebec's interests first and foremost, but if it helps the rest of Canada as well, all the better.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Marilène Gill Bloc Manicouagan, QC

Madam Speaker, I am glad my colleague mentioned the Bloc Québécois, noting that we want to be the voice of all Quebeckers, of the National Assembly, of any consensus in the National Assembly. In that same vein, I would like to ask a collegial question. One of our colleagues from the official opposition, the member for Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, said that it does not matter that the Conservatives did not win the by-election, since it was in Montreal.

I would like to know what my colleague the member for Berthier—Maskinongé thinks of that statement. He did not get a chance to ask him.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Yves Perron Bloc Berthier—Maskinongé, QC

Madam Speaker, I think it is unfortunate when people say things like that. We are less popular in certain regions. That is normal. However, we work for everyone and we always aim to convince everyone.

We are very pleased with the progress we made in Montreal. Our member is already hard at work, and the people in his riding will see the difference between a Bloc Québécois member who is on the ground and a minister who is not. I think they will re-elect him. I am very hopeful.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

September 26th, 2024 / 11:25 a.m.

Bloc

Christine Normandin Bloc Saint-Jean, QC

Madam Speaker, it is always a pleasure to follow my colleague from Berthier—Maskinongé, whom I greatly appreciate.

I would like to begin with a bit of background about when Parliament resumed. I will outline what has happened since we returned to the House. Hearing our explanation may help people better understand our reasons for voting for or against the motions moved by the Conservatives. My basic premise is that some people need to have things explained to them for a long time before they understand. I will explain things for as long as it takes.

This fall, at our caucus meetings before Parliament resumed, this was the approach we were taking. We were thinking that, for the first time in about two and a half years, the Bloc Québécois had the opportunity to capitalize on what should have been the norm for the past two and a half years, namely a true minority government.

The people decided that this would be a minority government. However, what we have seen is that it has acted like a majority government with the NDP's help, which means that the government in power did not reflect the will of the people for two and a half years. Today, after the surprise termination of the agreement at the end of the summer, things are back to normal, that is, we have a minority government that is obliged to negotiate with the other parties. The Bloc Québécois now holds the balance of power that had slipped through its fingers in recent years. However, that did not prevent us from making headway. The opposition parties play an important role in both minority and majority governments. We proved that with the bills we pushed through despite everything and which I will address a bit later.

We saw that we had the balance of power and that we had an opportunity we have not had in a while. We were not going to discard it the first chance we got. We decided to take the opportunity to get more for Quebec. In some cases, these gains will also benefit all Canadians, and I say good for them. The Bloc Québécois is not that chauvinistic.

That is why, yesterday, we set out specific goals we wish to achieve, explicit gains we want to make before a set deadline. Unlike the NDP, who tied its own hands for two and a half years, we do not intend to blindly support the government until fall 2025. We do not intend to remain uselessly patient and allow the government to refuse to make a decision for absolutely nothing when it comes to our demands.

Our two main demands concern seniors and supply management. Our deadline for achieving our demands is the end of October, which is reasonable in both cases. It is reasonable in terms of content. The two bills in question are Bill C‑319, which was introduced by my colleague for Shefford, and Bill C‑282, which was introduced by my colleague for Montcalm and other members, including the member for Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot and the member for Berthier—Maskinongé, who preceded me. These two bills have already made their way through the House. At worst they are the subject of a relative consensus and, in some cases, they received a large majority of votes.

Bill C‑282, progressed so well that it made it to the Senate. We are therefore asking the government to perhaps make it easier, to ensure that there are no useless obstructions so that this bill can get to an irreversible point, as our leader mentioned. We want it to reach the point of no return by obtaining royal assent.

The same is true of the bill for seniors. The bill passed second reading. It was sent back to committee. The committee produced a report that received the unanimous support of the parties. There should not be any problem. This is an absolutely essential matter we are working on. This unanimity did not come out of thin air. It represents more purchasing power for seniors, regardless of their age, starting at age 65. It is the opposite of what the government was trying to do when it created two classes of seniors, when it created a difference between seniors age 65 to 74 and seniors age 75 and over.

Yesterday on Téléjournal we saw some statistics concerning seniors' needs.

It was reported that 59% of seniors aged 75 and over earn less than $30,000 a year, which is not much. In the case of seniors aged 65 to 74, that proportion is 54%. Despite all that, until recently, the government was telling us that seniors aged 65 to 74 do not need as much money as seniors who are 75 and over and that this older group really needs help. As if the cost of living were not the same for both groups. As if groceries cost less when you get to age 75. As if there were an additional discount. As if prescription drugs were less expensive.

The Bloc Québécois could not make any sense out of this and decided it was time to put an end to the discrimination. The argument that one age group has fewer needs than the other does not hold water. That is evident when we look at who is getting the GIS, and we should note that anyone receiving the GIS cannot be that well off: 39% of seniors aged 75 and over are entitled to the GIS, while 29% of seniors aged 65 to 74 qualify to receive it. Our motion will make it possible to enhance the old age pension, the OAS, which will benefit many seniors who need it, despite the arguments we have been hearing from the government that these people are not a priority.

Our measures are reasonable, and so is our deadline. We said October 29, which gives the government almost five weeks to get these bills, which are already at a late stage, passed. In the meantime, we do not intend to lose this opportunity to make gains. That means, and this is no surprise, that we will be voting against today's motion. I hope that the Conservatives understand why, if they are listening at all to what we are saying.

That is how we work. We take a logical approach. We work to make gains for our constituents. That is exactly what we are doing. If, like some people, we were only interested in ourselves, we might be satisfied with our victory in the riding of LaSalle—Émard—Verdun. We might be satisfied with the polls, which show we are in a pretty good position, and decide that, if we call an election right away, it will be good for the Bloc Québécois.

No, we chose to do what is good for Quebec, as we have always done and as we will continue to do. If, for example, we make gains and obtain results with Bill C‑319 and Bill C‑282, we will not let the government walk all over us by bartering support for interference, for example. We will not vote in favour of something that is bad for Quebec because we managed to achieve something good for Quebec. We will not change who we are in future votes. I hope that both the government and the Conservatives understand that. We are telling them our strategy for the future, in case they missed that. If it is good for Quebec, the Bloc Québécois votes for it. If it is bad for Quebec, the Bloc Québécois votes against it. That will never change.

When we are asked whether we have confidence in the government, the answer is that we do not trust the Liberals any more than we trust a potential Conservative government to look after Quebec's interests. It is a good thing that the Bloc Québécois is here, because the Conservatives and the Liberals are both the same. They both want to attack Bill 21, and neither have any lessons to give in terms of oil subsidies. When it comes to immigration, the war Quebec is waging may have begun with the Liberals, but we have no guarantees about what the Conservatives plan to about another one of Quebec's demands, namely, the distribution of asylum seekers, since this is at a standstill with Alberta, Saskatchewan, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia. What do those provinces have in common? They all have Conservative premiers. These are the same people who are unable to respond to Quebec's needs and who are saying that Quebec needs to figure things out itself.

When we are asked whether we have confidence, the answer is no. The only confidence we have is in ourselves and our ability to make gains. That is how we are going to operate moving forward. We are also not worried about an election. We are ready. If we need to campaign in the snow, then we will bundle up and do that. There is not much that scares the Bloc Québécois.

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:35 a.m.

Conservative

John Brassard Conservative Barrie—Innisfil, ON

Madam Speaker, a few days ago, the leader of the Bloc Québécois said with bravado, the same bravado we saw from the leader of the NDP, that if the government does not get the bills passed sooner, the deadline for passing them is October 29.

How is the Bloc Québécois going to force an election without the NDP to back it up? Bloc members say they have no confidence in the Liberal government, but how are they going to do that?

Opposition Motion—Confidence in the GovernmentBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

11:35 a.m.

Bloc

Christine Normandin Bloc Saint-Jean, QC

Madam Speaker, what we have promised to do on October 29 is not to bring down the government, but to negotiate with the other parties to do so and succeed. We have said that we are prepared to withdraw our support from the government and begin discussions with the other parties, as we have done in the past when the time came to bring down a minority government. The parties did not just work in isolation, each in their own corner. They talked together.

We do not rely on the decisions of the other parties. Our commitment is to negotiate with the other parties in order to bring down the government. That is what we will do when October 29 comes around, if not a little sooner, if it looks like things are going off the rails or our requests are not moving forward.