Debates of June 9th, 2025

Main Estimates and Supplementary Estimates (A), 2025-26

[Branden Leslie, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister has said there must be consensus for any new pipelines. Can you define consensus for me, minister?

[The Speaker, Francis Scarpaleggia]

Again, comments must go through the Chair.

The minister of environment.

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, Canadians want to see us working together, and I am going to say that this applies to the members across the way. They want to see us meet this moment when we are facing the challenges from President Trump. I hope they are willing to help us.

[Branden Leslie, Conservative, Portage—Lisgar, MB]

Mr. Speaker, are there any individual groups or individuals across this country who hold a veto that could break up that possible consensus?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, what consensus are they referring to? They are literally speaking in the way of hypotheticals. I am not sure what they were referring to, so they might be celebrating—

[The Speaker, Francis Scarpaleggia]

We will go now to the hon. member for Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, it appears the moment has already passed for consensus in the country. We heard it here today from the minister.

I have a separate question for the minister, though. Will the government remove the emissions cap, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Minister of Environment and Climate Change]

Mr. Speaker, first of all, to be clear, what I said was I did not understand the consensus to which they were referring. As far as speaking about our being united, last week, when the premiers and the Prime Minister were leaving that meeting and saying that we were at a moment to build Canada together, yes, there was that agreement.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, she is saying there is no veto, but we saw the Premier of British Columbia get up clearly and say he would absolutely not support any pipelines. How can she stand up here and say there is national unity when it has been very clear from the Premier of British Columbia that there is no consensus?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, is the member opposite trying to say that they would rather sow division in this moment when we are facing President Trump's threat to our sovereignty and to our economy, or are they willing to join us in building a strong economy together?

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, the division has already been sown within their cabinet. In fact, actually, there are two separate environment ministers around the table. Does she agree with that?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, last time I checked, there is one minister of environment and climate change, and that is me.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, the previous minister declared there would be no new pipelines, yet he is also saying he is still an environment minister at the cabinet table. How does the minister feel about that?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I do not think it is for me to speak to any feelings anyone has, particularly the feelings I am hearing from across the way. The most important part is that we work in unity in this moment.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, the minister says that they are working in unity, but the only unity that we are seeing is that the Liberals do not want to see another export pipeline built in Canada. Is there consensus, or is there not?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, I hope that the member opposite will support the build Canada act, which gives us the opportunity to build projects in the national interest. We have a very important moment that we need to face. I do not hear that support. Are the Conservatives supporting it?

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, would the act build a pipeline in Canada, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, will the Conservatives support building projects of national interest, or will they not?

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, would the act build a pipeline, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, there are factors set out in the legislation, which I would be happy to read if the member would like. My question is, will they support the legislation?

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, would it build a pipeline?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, there are national interest projects that our entire country needs to see built. My question is, will the Conservatives be supporting the premiers from across the country?

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, the minister has not said the word “pipeline” once. I ask her one more time, would the bill build a pipeline, yes or no?

[Julie Dabrusin, Liberal, Toronto—Danforth, ON]

Mr. Speaker, again, it is not my job to pick which projects will be built. My job is to make sure that the environment is considered as we make those decisions, and the legislation allows for that specifically.

[Jeremy Patzer, Conservative, Swift Current—Grasslands—Kindersley, SK]

Mr. Speaker, the minister still has not said the word “pipeline” here in this House. Why will she not say the word “pipeline”?