House of Commons Hansard #151 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was procurement.

Topics

line drawing of robot

This summary is computer-generated. Usually it’s accurate, but every now and then it’ll contain inaccuracies or total fabrications.

Criminal Code First reading of Bill C-293. The bill creates a stand-alone offence for violent home invasions, with a maximum life sentence, a five-year mandatory minimum, reverse onus for bail, and DNA orders upon conviction. 200 words.

Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities Members debate a committee report on youth employment, citing rising unemployment and barriers to first jobs, training, housing, and seasonal work. Conservatives call for lower taxes and red tape, labour-market-aligned immigration and training, workforce housing, and EI reform; Liberals highlight job growth and Red Seal training, while the Bloc emphasizes gaps in EI coverage. 5200 words, 40 minutes.

Strengthening Canada's Defence Sector Act Second reading of Bill C-40. The bill would establish the Defence Investment Agency as a Crown corporation with expanded authority to coordinate defence procurement, production and investment, aiming to deliver military capabilities faster and strengthen Canadian industry. It would also broaden the Defence Production Act to cover national security. Supporters say the corporation retains ministerial and parliamentary oversight; critics warn its powers could weaken transparency, competition and accountability. 39000 words, 5 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the government’s fiscal management, linking rising debt and interest costs to an affordability crisis. They call for lower immigration and Canadian workers first, and condemn awarding a major security contract to an American firm over Canadian veterans. They also highlight job losses and the harm tariffs pose to dairy farmers.
The Liberals defend the CRA’s independent procurement decision and highlight Canada’s strong fiscal position, affordability measures, and plans for growth through investment, jobs and training. They emphasize immigration reforms, while arguing that temporary foreign workers can address labour shortages when Canadians are prioritized. They also promote infrastructure and resource development, support for businesses, and efforts to strengthen Canada’s economy.
The Bloc condemns Bill C-39 for weakening environmental protections, threatening Quebec’s territorial sovereignty, and making scientific input optional in pipeline assessments. It also demands sustainable funding for Quebec culture through levies on online streaming platforms.
The NDP condemn Bill C-39 for trampling Indigenous and workers’ rights and overriding environmental laws, while criticizing the government’s limited consultation.
The Greens warn that Bill C-30 and Bill C-31 weaken pesticide protections for human health and the environment.

Alleged Premature Disclosure of Bill C-40 Kevin Lamoureux argues that an investigation found no evidence Bill C-40 was disclosed before its introduction. He says public discussion of making the Defence Investment Agency a Crown corporation and appointing a procurement minister made the proposal foreseeable, and asks the Speaker to reject the opposition’s privilege complaint. 2600 words.

Freedom of Speech in Members' Parliamentary Work Members hear a Conservative question of privilege arguing that an Ontario medical regulator’s investigation of a Liberal MP over a supplementary opinion in a parliamentary committee report may infringe parliamentary freedom of speech. The member asks the Speaker to find a prima facie breach and refer the matter to committee for study. The Liberal parliamentary secretary reserves a response. 2600 words, 15 minutes.

Canada Revenue Agency Act Second reading of Bill S-217. The bill requires the Canada Revenue Agency to report tax-evasion convictions and publish regular tax-gap statistics, while sharing data with the Parliamentary Budget Officer. Supporters across opposition parties say the measures would strengthen transparency and parliamentary oversight; Liberal concerns focus on existing reporting and protecting confidential tax information. The House passes the bill at second reading and refers it to the Standing Committee on Finance. 5700 words, 40 minutes.

Canadian Fuel Affordability Act Report stage of Bill C-38. The bill extends the suspension of federal fuel excise taxes on gasoline and diesel through January 31, 2027, then restores half the tax in February and March before reinstating it fully on April 1. Liberals describe the temporary relief as support for affordability amid global fuel-price pressures. Conservatives support the extension but call for broader, longer-lasting tax cuts, while the Bloc questions whether the savings reach consumers and whether the measure is well-targeted. The bill passes. 48300 words, 6 hours.

Adjournment Debates

EI premiums and employment Garnett Genuis argues that higher EI premiums act as payroll taxes, raising hiring costs and worsening youth unemployment, and asks the government to rule out increases. Maggie Chi offers a general defence of the government’s fiscal plan rather than addressing premiums directly. Genuis criticizes the response as irrelevant.
Pesticide regulation Elizabeth May argues that Bill C-30 gives cabinet unprecedented power to override health and pesticide regulators, weakening safeguards without proper debate or expert review. She warns lax rules risk health and Canadian farm exports. Parliamentary Secretary Maggie Chi says temporary, conditional pesticide use can help protect food and economic security while maintaining health and environmental safety.
Affordability and young Canadians Scot Davidson says high living costs, housing prices and limited good-paying jobs are putting young Canadians’ futures out of reach, and argues government supports are inadequate. Maggie Chi acknowledges the concerns and cites housing, tax, fuel and employment measures to ease costs and strengthen the economy. Davidson counters that affordability is worsening; Chi defends the government’s approach.
Was this summary helpful and accurate?

Small BusinessOral Questions

3:05 p.m.

Liberal

Marianne Dandurand Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

Mr. Speaker, it is Small Business Week. Many SMEs in my riding are innovating.

For example, just this week, a $1-million investment was announced for Omnimed, a company that develops electronic medical records and plans to integrate artificial intelligence into its operations. We also have many manufacturing and agricultural businesses in our region. Our government needs to support these businesses.

Can the Secretary of State for Small Business and Tourism tell us how our government is supporting businesses like those in my riding?

Small BusinessOral Questions

October 20th, 2026 / 3:05 p.m.

Mississauga—Streetsville Ontario

Liberal

Rechie Valdez LiberalMinister of Women and Gender Equality and Secretary of State (Small Business and Tourism)

Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for her question.

Our government has taken significant measures to support SMEs. Businesses affected by tariffs have access to $7.5 million in financial support to invest in their growth. We have reduced the marginal effective tax rate on new business investment to 6.4%.

I wish everyone an excellent Small Business Week.

JusticeOral Questions

3:05 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Guglielmin Conservative Vaughan—Woodbridge, ON

Mr. Speaker, a violent home invasion does not end when the intruders leave. Families are left lying awake fearing every noise and wondering whether it will happen again. Today, I introduced a bill to keep Canadians safe in their homes. This bill would create a distinct home invasion offence, establish a five-year mandatory minimum sentence and carry with it a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. Canadians deserve to feel safe behind their own front doors.

Will the minister and the Liberal government support my bill and help ensure Canadians can feel safe in the comfort of their own homes?

JusticeOral Questions

3:05 p.m.

Brampton North—Caledon Ontario

Liberal

Ruby Sahota LiberalSecretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Mr. Speaker, it is very important that we ensure the safety of Canadians. We have been working hard since being elected as a new government to work on these issues, including home invasions and break and enters. That is why we introduced six different bills last year alone that have passed through this House. There is more work to do, and we look forward to collaborating with other parties on it.

The EconomyOral Questions

3:05 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

Mr. Speaker, the Prime Minister calls Bill C-39 the most consequential legislation of this Parliament. New Democrats agree it will indeed have profound consequences for all Canadians. It will trample indigenous rights, override environmental laws and violate workers' rights, yet the government has allocated only eight hours to hear from witnesses not chosen by Liberals.

This bill will deeply impact our country for decades to come. Why are Liberals, aided by Conservatives, ramming it through without properly consulting Canadians?

The EconomyOral Questions

3:05 p.m.

Gatineau Québec

Liberal

Steven MacKinnon LiberalMinister of Transport and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, these committee hearings, as the member knows, are only the latest in a long line of consultations that this government has undertaken with first nations, labour, environmental groups, businesses, provinces and stakeholders from right across our country. In fact, we consulted so much, we had to double the amount of consultation time that we undertook over the summer.

This process has been defined by the listening and the consulting that we have been doing with Canadians, and we will continue to do that.

HealthOral Questions

3:05 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, even if we go back to the 1985 version of the Pest Control Products Act, as opposed to the current 2002 version, in that entire history there have never been revisions to the Pest Control Products Act that so reduced protections for human health and the environment, and they have never, ever come from the Department of Finance in an omnibus budget bill until this in Bill C-30 and Bill C-31.

To the hon. Minister for Health, why is this not coming from the health minister, and why is she not protecting our health?

HealthOral Questions

3:05 p.m.

Papineau Québec

Liberal

Marjorie Michel LiberalMinister of Health

Mr. Speaker, first of all, I would say the health and safety of Canadians will always remain our top priority. However, we can do this while supporting our agriculture sector and cutting red tape. We are modernizing our regulatory process to take a risk-based approach so that we can focus on higher risk areas and ensure we keep the safety and security of Canadians, and our food supply, first.

Presence in GalleryOral Questions

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

I wish to draw the attention of hon. members to the presence in the gallery of Anatole Collinet Makosso, Prime Minister of the Republic of Congo.

Presence in GalleryOral Questions

3:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

Presence in GalleryOral Questions

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

I would also like to draw the attention of members to the presence in the gallery of the Hon. Ted Laking, Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources for the Yukon Territory.

Presence in GalleryOral Questions

3:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

Hear, hear!

Oral QuestionsPoints of OrderOral Questions

3:10 p.m.

Conservative

Luc Berthold Conservative Mégantic—L’Érable—Lotbinière, QC

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order.

During oral question period, the Minister of Jobs and Families misled the House by quoting me in her answer. I must inform the House that I did not, in any letter, ask for a single additional worker. It is important to correct that. I did not ask for a single additional worker in the letter I sent her.

I asked the minister to show respect to current workers. If she believes she is right, I seek the permission of the House to table the letter I sent her.

Oral QuestionsPoints of OrderOral Questions

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

That is duly noted. As for the second part of the member's point of order, it is clear that there is no unanimous consent to table a document.

The House resumed consideration of the motion.

Opposition Motion—Affordability CrisisBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

It being 3:12 p.m., pursuant to order made on Monday, October 19, the House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of the member for Battle River—Crowfoot relating to the business of supply.

Call in the members.

And the bells having rung:

Opposition Motion—Affordability CrisisBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

The question is as follows.

Shall I dispense?

Opposition Motion—Affordability CrisisBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

Some hon. members

No.

Opposition Motion—Affordability CrisisBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:10 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

[Chair read text of motion to House]

(The House divided on the motion, which was negatived on the following division:)

Vote #179

Business of SupplyGovernment Orders

3:25 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

I declare the motion defeated.

Alleged Premature Disclosure of Bill C-40PrivilegeGovernment Orders

3:25 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I am rising to respond to a question of privilege raised on October 6 by the opposition House leader respecting the alleged premature disclosure of Bill C-40.

I would like to begin by stating that the government takes any allegation of potential premature disclosure of information during the notice period extremely seriously. This is why there has been a slight delay in responding to the points raised by the opposition House leader, as the government looked into this matter thoroughly.

I can categorically state that our comprehensive investigation revealed that no one provided any information related to the content of the bill during the notice period. For that reason alone, I would assert that there is not a prima facie question of privilege in this instance. However, I want to provide the House with relevant information regarding the Defence Investment Agency that clearly demonstrates that the subject and nature of public deliberations on the form of the organization to lead this work of defence procurement could have led to the conclusion that the government was considering establishing a Crown corporation for this purpose.

As it relates to the comments by the opposition House leader, there are two arguments that I would like to address. The first is the assertion that there is no way that any intelligent observer would be able to infer that the government was proposing that the form of the organization to manage defence procurement would be a Crown corporation. Second, when the opposition House leader refers in media reports to “sources” or “federal sources”, he seems to imply that these individuals provided confidential information to journalists during the notice period. While that may be his implication, it does not in any way corroborate that an individual divulged confidential information about the contents of a bill that was on the Notice Paper.

As I have indicated, I can confirm to the House that we have looked thoroughly into this matter, and we have found no evidence of an internal leak of the contents of Bill C-40 during the notice period. In contrast to previous Speakers' rulings where the government stated that it could not confirm who leaked the contents of a bill during the notice period, our comprehensive investigation revealed no evidence that anyone provided any information related to the content of the bill during the notice period. What these inquiries and the public record demonstrate is that individuals did speak publicly about the possibility of a Crown corporation that would report to a supporting ministerial position under the Minister of National Defence over many months, but I can assure the House that these conversations did not occur at a time even proximate to the notice of the bill.

The government's objective for defence procurement has remained unchanged since the beginning of the mandate in early 2025: to have an organization that would be sufficiently independent from the public service in order to have the flexibility and agility to procure military materiel to support our armed forces to defend our sovereignty and to meet our international commitments. That objective is at the heart of our work. The form that this would take has been a deliberative effort, building on the diverse perspectives from international engagement on different models for procurement, from input from stakeholders, and from procurement specialists.

On April 27, 2026, Mr. Doug Guzman, chief executive officer of the Defence Investment Agency, appeared before the Standing Committee on National Defence and was asked about the Defence Investment Agency and what form it could take. He said the following:

There are a number of ways it could be set up, and we're working our way through them. I don't know the answer right now. It could be anything from a Crown corporation to a traditional department, or something in between.

The reason Mr. Guzman stated that the organization could take the form of a Crown corporation in the spring of 2026 was due to the fact that it was still a live debate within the government. We were still consulting on whether the model proposed in Bill C-31 was the best way to proceed.

Since the 2025 general election, the government has been investigating different models of defence procurement and investment and has discussed these possibilities both in Parliament and publicly. I submit that the subject and nature of these deliberations on the form of the organization to lead this work could have led to a conclusion that the government was considering establishing a Crown corporation for this purpose.

I would further add that the proposal to create the Defence Investment Agency in Bill C-31 was introduced in the House on May 6, 2026. The fact that the government gave notice of a new bill related to defence investment and procurement in September telegraphed that the government was thinking of an alternative approach to give more independence and flexibility to a body to undertake these activities. The conclusion would be obvious, based on the public deliberations that had taken place, that it would be a Crown corporation.

In fact, whether or not the Defence Investment Agency would become a Crown corporation, this possibility has been in the public domain since the spring of 2026. Individuals who would have been involved in the deliberations on the form of the organization to manage defence procurement would have discussed the possibility that the Crown corporation would ultimately be the preferred mode during this period, but our investigation did not reveal any discussions during the notice period.

During the 2025 general election, the Liberal platform stated with respect to various forms of procurement, including defence procurement, that it could be modelled on the powers and independence of a Crown corporation. Page 7 of the platform states:

Deploy a made-in-Canada procurement strategy that prioritizes, whenever possible, Canadian suppliers and supply chains, and limiting bidders from foreign suppliers to bidding only on what we have agreed to in Canada's Free Trade Agreements. We will prioritize Canadian contractors in our defence procurement, including the Canadian aerospace industry. Crown Corporations with major capital acquisitions, like VIA Rail, will also be encouraged to meet this standard.

On February 17, 2026, the Prime Minister launched Canada's first defence industrial strategy to strengthen security, create prosperity and reinforce strategic autonomy. On page 15 of the document, it states, “The Defence Investment Agency (DIA), created in October 2025, will address these challenges. Initially created as part of PSPC, the Government's intention is to establish the DIA as a stand-alone entity.”

The government made it clear, over eight months ago, that the Defence Investment Agency would become a stand-alone entity. What is proposed in Bill C-31, the budget 2025 implementation act, no. 2, is not truly an independent entity. It is a government agency. A federal government agency is not considered a completely stand-alone, independent entity in legal and accounting terms, because it remains part of the core public service.

Only a Crown corporation is a true stand-alone, independent entity, and the government's intention to potentially proceed this way was made public over eight months ago. Once Bill C-40 appeared on the Notice Paper, it became clear that the government had decided to evolve its course. It was logical to conclude that the government was moving ahead with what it had previously announced, which is to make the Defence Investment Agency a truly independent, stand-alone entity, as it had previously announced. By definition, this can only be a Crown corporation.

As I stated earlier, Mr. Guzman, chief executive officer of the Defence Investment Agency, talked about the possibility of a Crown corporation at committee in April of this year. The government has been on the record speaking about the possibility of the Defence Investment Agency becoming a Crown corporation for many months now.

The Globe and Mail article that the opposition House leader references also states the following:

Philippe Lagassé, a professor at Carleton University who researches defence policy, said that if Ottawa turns the DIA into a Crown corporation, it would operate at arm's length from the government....

Prof. Lagassé said he will still need to see the mechanics of the legislation....

What is important here is that Professor Lagassé refers to “if” the Defence Investment Agency were to become a Crown corporation and says that he cannot offer a precise analysis because he has not seen the bill or the specific details contained within it. This further makes the case that the details of the legislation were not divulged during the notice period.

The opposition House leader also points out that the Globe and Mail story makes mention of the creation of a new cabinet position: the minister of defence procurement. I would like to point out to the House that on page 145 of the 2026 spring economic update, which was tabled on April 28, 2026, it states:

In the Spring Economic Update 2026, the government proposes to introduce legislation to establish the Defence Investment Agency as a departmental agency presided over by a new minister and to make related amendments to the Defence Production Act that would, among other things, enhance financial and transactional authorities available to the new minister.

The government's intention to create a new minister of defence procurement was made public over six months ago. However, the opposition House leader failed to point out that Bill C-40 would not actually create a minister of defence procurement. Rather, it states that the government may appoint an associate minister of national defence for procurement, not an associate minister of defence, as the article states. In the context of alleging premature disclosure of a bill, these details matter.

The opposition House leader also alleged that ministerial responsibility related to the Defence Investment Agency was not “telegraphed...in any previous public statements by the government”. I would assert that, if the government were to give notice of a bill entitled “an act respecting production, procurement and investment in relation to national defence and national security”, combined with the previous commitment that this agency would be presided over by a new minister, as announced in the 2026 spring economic update, it does not take much to deduce that new legislation would set some parameters around this process. This is just common sense. All legislation contains ministerial powers and responsibilities. That is how our Westminster system of government works.

I also want to point out that the CBC story that the opposition House leader referenced says the following:

In the spring, the government proposed to allow up to 14 exceptions, including procurements of national interest. It also made economic security a key pillar of the DIA mandate.

How those measures will be reflected in the Crown corporation and whether it will have even greater authority is unclear.

I would assert that it is unclear because the bill had not been introduced in the House, which further illustrates that there has been no premature disclosure of the contents of the legislation during the notice period.

In conclusion, I have clearly shown that the government has been on the record for many months about the creation of a stand-alone entity responsible for defence procurement and the possibility of a Crown corporation. I have shown that only a Crown corporation is truly a stand-alone entity. I have also outlined how the government has been on the record for many months about a new minister responsible for defence procurement, and I have established the discrepancies between what was reported and what was actually contained in Bill C-40. Furthermore, I have demonstrated that all pieces of the legislation contain ministerial powers and responsibilities as part of our Westminster system of government. Finally, I have shown that quotes within the stories referenced by the official opposition House leader substantiate that details were not available about the legislation and thus are speculative.

I would assert to you, Mr. Speaker, that it is a high bar to meet to find a prima facie question of privilege, and I believe that I have provided, on the record, public evidence that refutes the allegations that there was premature disclosure of the bill.

Having said all that, I also want to reiterate what I said at the beginning of my intervention, namely that the government takes its responsibilities to safeguard information contained in legislation on notice very seriously. While I believe that I have demonstrated that no premature disclosure took place, the government has taken the allegation seriously and made inquiries with ministerial offices as well as with officials in the public service. These inquiries have concluded that there is no evidence to support that the content of Bill C-40 was prematurely disclosed during the notice period, which further reinforces the point that there is not a case of prima facie privilege in this instance. In fact, the evidence suggests the contrary.

There have been discussions within government since the formation of this government in 2025. This process has evolved from establishing an agency through an order in council in the fall of 2025. Then there was a proposal in Bill C-31 to create a new agency, and now there is the proposal to create a Crown corporation. These discussions have occurred publicly and in a committee of the House. While the model to execute defence procurement investment has continued to evolve, the objective remained the constant to create an independent, agile organization to procure defence-related equipment as efficiently as possible. It was not a stretch of the imagination that this could result in an establishment of a Crown corporation.

It would appear to me that there are two sets of competing facts before the House. In such cases, Speakers have declared that a dispute as to the facts constitutes debate. On June 19, 2025, the Speaker ruled on a matter that constituted dispute as to the facts and which I would like to quote. He said:

If every disagreement is to be raised as a question of privilege, the House would spend its time doing little else. There are many opportunities in our debates for members to challenge each other on the facts of a particular case, and that is the correct way of dealing with such disagreements.

As for the conclusion of our inquiry into the possible premature disclosure of the contents of Bill C-40, I can assure the House that no evidence has been found to corroborate that anyone divulged the contents of the bill during the notice period. I would remind the House of the importance of taking members at their word. On December 6, 2011, the Speaker ruled on a member's involvement in inviting individuals to the gallery who were the cause of a disturbance. In this case, the Speaker ruled, and I would quote, “Remembering the time-honoured tradition in this place that members are taken at their word and so in keeping with the precedents just cited, the Chair is prepared to consider this particular aspect of the matter to be closed.”

In light of the review of the evolution of the policy to determine the best manner in which to procure and invest in defence capabilities to support our Armed Forces, it was logical to assume that this could be through an establishment of a Crown corporation. The policy evolution has taken place in a public sphere, including in a committee of the House. Therefore, the conclusions drawn in the media reports are reasonable assumptions and do not point to a deliberate internal leak of the contents of Bill C-40 during the notice period.

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate your time and patience.

Freedom of Speech in Members' Parliamentary WorkPrivilegeGovernment Orders

3:45 p.m.

Conservative

Matt Strauss Conservative Kitchener South—Hespeler, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am rising on a question of privilege concerning a Canadian Press report published on Thanksgiving weekend. It reported that our colleague, the hon. member for Thunder Bay—Rainy River, is potentially facing professional disciplinary proceedings in connection with his parliamentary committee work. According to this report, the hon. member, a physician, is the subject of a complaint to the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario, of which he is a member, concerning his supplementary opinion attached to the first report of the Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying.

Specifically, The Canadian Press reports that a member of the public, whom I understand is also a plaintiff in constitutional challenges concerning the current law, which absent parliamentary intervention is due to sunset next year, has complained to the college about the hon. member's “written arguments against expanding access to [medical assistance in dying] for mental illness until fundamental concerns are addressed.” It is further understood that the hon. member was given until October 22, Thursday, to answer a college investigator, following which the complaint will be referred to a college committee for review.

The bottom line is that a member of the House is facing serious legal proceedings over his contributions to a parliamentary proceeding. This, I believe, offends the constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech in Parliament. Paragraph 3.52 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice, fourth edition, explains just how central this is to the work of Parliament: “Freedom of speech is the cornerstone of the rights and parliamentary privileges accorded to members. It is both the least questioned and the most fundamental right of the member of Parliament on the floor of the House and in committees.”

While we often think of this freedom in terms of not being sued for defamation for what is said here, the reality is that it is much more widely scoped than that. This privilege is anchored in article 9 of the Bill of Rights, adopted by the Parliament of England in 1689: “That the Freedome of Speech and Debates or Proceedings in Parlyament ought not to be impeached or questioned in any Court or Place out of Parlyament”

Those last words “Place out of Parlyament” are key here. To be sure, it should not be interpreted as meaning literally any place outside of here. Public debate and accountability of politicians are fundamental features of a parliamentary democracy such as Canada's. As Janse and LeBlanc explain at paragraph 3.57, “The House of Commons could not work effectively unless its members were able to speak and criticize without having to account to any outside body.”

While we have clear jurisprudence in Canada concerning the use of parliamentary proceedings before the courts, and to a lesser extent royal commissions and human rights commissions, we do not have a body of precedent concerning where we ought to draw the line concerning “any outside body”, to borrow the phrase of Janse and LeBlanc, or a “Place out of Parlyament”, to use the wording enacted by the convention on Parliament. Authorities elsewhere have, however, contemplated this matter.

For its part, the 1999 United Kingdom Parliament Joint Committee on Parliamentary Privilege commented at paragraphs 91 and 92 of its first report:

The prohibition in article 9 is not confined to the questioning of parliamentary proceedings in courts. It applies also to any “place out of Parliament”. This is another obscure expression of uncertain meaning. To read the phrase as meaning literally anywhere outside Parliament would be absurd. It would prevent the public and the media from freely discussing and criticising proceedings in Parliament. That cannot be right, and this meaning has never been suggested. Freedom for the public and the media to discuss parliamentary proceedings outside Parliament is as essential to a healthy democracy as the freedom of members to discuss what they choose within Parliament. So the embrace of the phrase is narrower than this, but wider than merely “courts”: the whole phrase is “...any court or place out of Parliament”.

The interpretation of this expression has never been the subject of a court decision.

Meanwhile, Parliamentary Practice in New Zealand, fifth edition, at page 702, explores the history of the phrase and its evolved interpretation:

the reference to any place out of Parliament, if taken literally, would inhibit criticism or examination of parliamentary proceedings on any occasion outside Parliament. Such a result would be an absurdity that would unacceptably infringe citizens' freedom of speech. Occasional judicial statements have rhetorically imputed this extreme meaning, but these suggestions have not been taken seriously by either the House or the courts. The parliamentarians of 1688 probably had in mind the jurisdiction of the councils formerly established by royal prerogative to exercise executive and judicial functions. The latter functions were in conflict with the jurisdiction of the regular common law courts.

In promulgating the Bill of Rights 1688, members sought to ensure that councils established by the King, in addition to the regular courts, could not examine parliamentary proceedings. In the modern State, such parallel, non-curial executive and judicial functions are exercised by tribunals and other bodies established by legislation, and the prohibition on questioning proceedings in Parliament is taken to be addressed today to such bodies.

For a practical, contemporary approach to the 17th-century phrase, the 1999 U.K. joint committee opined at paragraph 95:

The Parliamentary Privileges Act 1987 (Australia) applied the article 9 prohibition to any court or tribunal, and defined tribunal as any person or body having power to examine witnesses on oath. This seems to provide a clear and sensible basis for the future. In general, power to administer oaths is dependent upon statutory authority. The power is conferred on bodies whose proceedings are endowed with a degree of legal solemnity and formality. It means, for instance, that article 9 will apply to coroners' inquests, lands tribunals and industrial tribunals. Beyond such formal tribunals, article 9 will not apply. By this means the boundary can be clearly delineated, with an embargo on examination of parliamentary proceedings in all courts and similar bodies but not elsewhere.

In addition to Australia, the Parliament of New Zealand has since similarly legislated on parliamentary privilege, adopting a comparable definition of “tribunal” in its Parliamentary Privilege Act 2014.

Turning back to the immediate case at hand, subsection 76(1) of the health professions procedural code, a schedule to Ontario's Regulated Health Professions Act, 1991, vests the college investigator with the authority of section 33 of the Ontario Public Inquiries Act, 2009. What this means is that the investigator has the power to issue summonses to any witnesses, including the hon. member for Thunder Bay—Rainy River, legally compelling the witness to provide a statement and/or documents. Failing to comply with a summons may result in a contempt of court order, among other consequences.

What is more is that the hon. member, as a physician, is under a positive obligation imposed by subsection 76(3.1) of the code to co-operate with any investigation into him. Failing to co-operate could amount to a further allegation of professional misconduct under the regulations made pursuant to Ontario's Medicine Act, 1991, and specifically as behaviour considered “disgraceful, dishonourable or unprofessional.”

Beyond the procedural concerns about co-operation with the investigation where the member's supplementary opinions would be questioned, the complainant's goal here is to hold the member accountable for his supplementary opinions. In other words, she wants the member's opinions to be impeached, as article 9 of the Bill of Rights puts it. To quote paragraph 36 of the 1999 U.K. joint committee's report, “the meaning of ‘impeach’ is not clear: possible meanings include hinder, challenge and censure.” A censure is exactly what the complainant is seeking here.

To sum up this aspect of my intervention, our colleague is facing legal proceedings with very serious personal and professional consequences to him because of his words published in connection with a committee report contrary to the constitutionally guaranteed freedom of speech in Parliament. While the procedural authorities are clear that supplementary and dissenting opinions are not part of a committee's report in terms of representing a committee's views, I would submit that they are nonetheless proceedings in Parliament as far as the protections of parliamentary privilege are concerned.

Janse and LeBlanc clarify at paragraph 3.54:

Proceedings include the work of the House and members’ actions in the context of the parliamentary process. Proceedings are not limited to debates. Members generally take part in proceedings by speaking during debates in the House and its committees, but also by various recognized forms of formal action, such as presenting documents, petitions or committee reports....

Moreover, committee reports, including any supplementary or dissenting opinions, are publications of the House. Subparagraph (i)(ii) of the special order adopted by the House on February 13, 2026, constituting the Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance and Dying, gave the committee the power, among other things, “to print such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the committee”.

Janse and LeBlanc add context at paragraph 20.55: “it is now, by and large, interpreted as a power to publish the necessary records and documents at its discretion, namely on the committee's website. It is the practice to publish the Minutes of Proceedings, the Evidence and the reports that committees present to the House.” This is important because, in addition to the centuries-old parliamentary privilege of freedom of speech, the House also enjoys a relatively newer privilege concerning the right to publish papers, traced back to the United Kingdom's Parliamentary Papers Act 1840 and explained by Janse and LeBlanc at paragraphs 3.49 and 3.50:

The Parliament of Canada Act provides protection for the publication, by order of the House, of parliamentary papers such that no lawsuit may be brought relating to the contents of the papers or their appendices. This includes all documents published by a committee acting under the authority of the House....

Within three weeks of the opening of the First Session of the First Parliament of Canada, the Senate and the House passed An Act to define the privileges, immunities and powers of the Senate and the House of Commons, and to give summary protection to persons employed in the publication of Parliamentary Papers, which claimed for the Parliament of Canada the privileges, immunities and powers of the British House of Commons. This statute also provided that parliamentary papers were protected by privilege and protected publishers of the authorized parliamentary papers and records against civil or criminal suits. These provisions are now in sections 7 to 9 of the Parliament of Canada Act.

Regardless of which privilege avenue the Speaker considers, the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario is, through this investigation of a member of Parliament's contributions to a parliamentary proceeding, trespassing over the privileges of the House of Commons.

The Canadian Press reports that for her part, the complainant “acknowledges in the complaint that a member of Parliament is entitled to freedom of speech”, yet she then proceeded to ask that the hon. member for Thunder Bay—Rainy River be held accountable for his very speech. What good is the freedom of speech if it is only meant to protect the things that we can all agree on or, worse, that only those in positions of authority agree on?

This is why I, a Conservative MP, am rising today on this question of privilege about something concerning a political opponent who sits on the Liberal benches. The case that has emerged is one that I believe could set a dangerous precedent if it is allowed to proceed unchallenged by the House.

Every single party represented in the House, including the two unrecognized parties, have members who have come from and are still members in good standing of these self-regulated professions. If members of the House now must self-censor during important debates in Parliament because their opponents outside of the House will weaponize professional disciplinary bodies to imperil their professional reputations and their ability to earn livelihoods after their service here, then we have lost the freedom of speech and the important contributions that those members must make.

This is not just a loss for those specific MPs or even for all 343 of us. It is actually a loss for Canadians as a whole. As Janse and LeBlanc explain at paragraph 3.7:

...the privilege of freedom of speech is secured to members not for their personal benefit, but to enable them to discharge their function of representing their constituents without fear of civil or criminal prosecution for what might be said in the House and committees. When a constituency has returned a candidate, it is the electors' right that this chosen representative should be protected from any kind of improper pressure.

Facing legal proceedings, professional misconduct investigations, potential blemishes on a professional record and possibly the inability to practise a profession are, I submit, forms of improper pressure. If prospective parliamentarians are told that in addition to the usual challenges we all face to varying degrees, some of them will also be putting their professional careers at risk if, once elected, they speak up for their constituents, especially if they have something to say that does not neatly line up with elite, establishment opinion, what hope do Canadians have that these potentially fine representatives will be willing to offer themselves for public service through election to Parliament?

That our constituents can and should hold us accountable in the so-called court of public opinion is natural, appropriate and a vital part of political and democratic life. Cancel culture, however, is not. We must together draw a firm and bright line that defends and supports the essential role the House of Commons and its members play as the beating heart of Canada's democracy.

Given the unprecedented nature of this issue, coupled with the somewhat vague and older statutory wording involved, which I have quoted, this is something the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs should study thoroughly. It should, in turn, provide recommendations concerning both the specific case of the hon. member for Thunder Bay—Rainy River and more generally for any future repetition of a challenge such as this.

Please join me in standing up for freedom of speech here in Parliament and in protecting our colleagues from the Kafkaesque threat of professional misconduct hearings being weaponized against them because of their parliamentary work. This is not just about special exemptions for MPs from rules that apply to everyone else. This is about protecting MPs from cancel culture and protecting them from having their professional designations threatened for speaking out on behalf of their constituents.

Even if a tribunal ultimately rules in favour of the member, in too many cases the process itself is the punishment. The fear of professional repercussions will have a chilling effect on the ability of MPs to speak their minds fully. The words spoken in Parliament or written in a committee report should be judged at the ballot box and the ballot box alone. Canadians themselves hold the ultimate authority in judging the words we use in this place.

Should you agree, Mr. Speaker, that this situation amounts to a prima facie case of privilege, and I strongly urge you to do so, I am prepared to move an appropriate motion to refer this matter to the committee.

Freedom of Speech in Members' Parliamentary WorkPrivilegeGovernment Orders

4 p.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

I thank the hon. member.

The hon. parliamentary secretary to the government House leader.

Freedom of Speech in Members' Parliamentary WorkPrivilegeGovernment Orders

4 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the manner in which that was presented, and I reserve the opportunity for a member of our caucus to respond.