House of Commons Hansard #157 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was online.

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Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives focus on the costs of Liberal deficits and spending, arguing they fuel inflation and higher interest rates that burden families. They criticize the fuel standard tax, citing its impact on food and fuel costs, and challenge the government’s debt and accounting. They also press for action to protect Hamilton steelworkers, lift the tanker ban, and restore Banff’s search-and-rescue K9 program.
The Liberals tout strong growth and fiscal indicators while emphasizing affordability benefits, tax cuts and support for families. They highlight aid for steelworkers facing U.S. tariffs, promote energy and pipeline projects, and defend Bill C-39’s approach to collective bargaining. They also stress closer ties with the European Union.
The Bloc criticize the Prime Minister for excluding Quebec’s premier from the Canada–EU summit, arguing Quebec should have a voice on matters within its jurisdiction and in its international relations. They contrast this with the government’s honours for the UAE and engagement with Turkey, despite human rights concerns.
The NDP urge Liberals to repeal section 107 and protect workers’ right to strike, opposing Bill C-39’s limits on labour rights.

Bill C-41—Proposal to Apply Standing Order 69.1 Conservative MP Andrew Lawton asks the Speaker to divide Bill C-41 into separate votes on MAID eligibility for people with mental illness and advance requests for people who later lose capacity. 1400 words, 10 minutes.

Petitions

Safe Social Media Act Second reading of Bill C-34. The bill would establish online safety duties for social media and chatbot services, require safeguards for children under 16, speed removal of specified harmful content, and create a commission to oversee compliance and penalties. Liberal speakers say it supports families and addresses risks such as exploitation, bullying and harmful algorithms; Conservatives and the Green Party support examining protections but raise concerns about privacy, enforcement, exemptions and decisions deferred to future regulations. 61200 words, 7 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Protecting Young Persons from Exposure to Pornography Act Second reading of Bill S-209. The bill requires commercial pornography websites to use age-verification or age-estimation measures to restrict minors’ access, with safeguards for personal privacy and penalties for non-compliance. Members broadly support its goal of protecting children, while the government also points to related online-safety legislation. The House passes the bill at second reading and refers it to committee. 6600 words, 45 minutes.

Adjournment Debates

Grocery affordability Tamara Kronis says rising food prices and food bank use demand lasting relief, and presses Ryan Turnbull for measurable targets and public reporting on whether the $1-billion food-link fund lowers costs, especially on Vancouver Island. Turnbull points to federal food-security investments, local infrastructure and shorter supply chains, arguing these build resilience and address food insecurity over time.
Parks Canada cuts William Stevenson warns that Parks Canada workforce reductions and the planned end of Banff’s search-and-rescue dog program threaten public safety and essential park services. Ryan Turnbull defends the cuts as part of a broad spending review, citing fiscal savings and tax reductions. Stevenson asks the government to reinstate the rescue dog program, but Turnbull offers no commitment.
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7 p.m.

Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Mr. Speaker, it is the new reality. Four-, six-, seven- or eight-year-old children are sometimes more adept with electronics than adults. Sometimes parents and grandparents do not know how to help young people. It is not about controlling them. It is about helping them. The child does not know that he or she is going down a road that is going to hurt them in the long run, that will put their mental health at risk. It is up to us to take responsibility for them.

How do we do that? We do it by equipping parents, by having informed parents, by keeping parents in the equation, not taking parents out of the equation by saying that the government will make the decisions. We see that here all the time. The Liberals rise in the House and say how proud they are to intervene in everything and that more and more people need Liberal subsidies to get by.

We want people to be free to make their own choices. It is important for parents to have access to information so they can make the right decisions for their children.

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7 p.m.

Liberal

Steeve Lavoie Liberal Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Mr. Speaker, I will be brief. I think that we are all here for the right reasons. We are all facing the same challenges. I also agree on the issue of how we can help parents. My colleague mentioned tools earlier. I would like him to elaborate on that.

We have been talking non-stop this evening. Does my colleague have any specific ideas that could be effective and that could really help parents right away?

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7 p.m.

Conservative

Gabriel Hardy Conservative Montmorency—Charlevoix, QC

Mr. Speaker, once again, I do not think that it is up to me, as some great thinker, to start telling people what they should do.

I think that is what committees are for. We can bring in experts and make sure we listen to them. At the end of the day, it is not ideology that is important. It is results and what ordinary people are facing.

What should we do? We can set up a committee, invite experts, listen to what they have to say, present ideas to them and ask what they think about the tools. We can talk to digital platforms, talk to our young people about how they actually use the Internet and work together to develop a law that helps them.

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7 p.m.

Conservative

Connie Cody Conservative Cambridge, ON

Mr. Speaker, no security system is judged by its strongest lock, but instead by how easily someone gets through its weakest point. The same idea applies to Bill C-34. We need to discuss whether its proposed measures for a safer Internet would actually work when children and platforms test them.

I share the goal of the bill before us. The most important thing is to protect our children. Parents cannot take on some of the largest technology companies in the world by themselves. Parliament has a responsibility to ensure those companies are held accountable for the risks their products create for children and families. However, good intentions alone are not enough. The question before us is whether the mechanisms in the bill would deliver the protections families are expecting.

I have heard from so many parents in Cambridge and North Dumfries who are being asked to protect their children against some of the most sophisticated companies on earth. They want peace of mind. They want to ensure privacy and security for their kids. Most of all, they want them to be safe, but we have to ask: Will the law promising these things actually work when it meets a 14-year-old with a phone or a trillion-dollar, multinational social media giant?

Parliament is being asked to approve the framework today, while many of the important details that would actually protect our children are to be determined later. Under Bill C-34, regulated social media platforms would have to stop children under 16 from holding accounts, but a platform can apply to the new commission for an exemption by showing it has adequate safeguards. What constitutes adequate? Parliament does not know, because that standard has not yet been established. The bill does not name a single platform. Whether it covers TikTok, Snapchat, YouTube, Roblox or Discord will be decided by cabinet after Parliament has voted. Law professor Michael Geist counted 50 key decisions in the bill left to cabinet and a commission that does not yet exist. That makes careful scrutiny of the bill even more important.

There are other lessons from around the world we could take to inform our conversation here today. For instance, Australia's under-16 ban took effect on December 10, 2025, across 10 major platforms. Four months in, surveys found many Australian children who had accounts before the ban still retained access. Most of those who stayed reported that getting around the restrictions was easy. A larger study found that account use among children fell after the ban took effect, but significant numbers remained on the very platforms the law was written to keep them off. For most of those children, staying on took no effort at all. Many reported that existing accounts were never removed, while others got through age checks, created new accounts or relied on someone else to set one up for them.

The regulator found platforms letting new users simply declare they were 16 or older, and allowing children to retry the same age check until they were eventually let through. One app was reported to allow 24 attempts a day. Some teens beat the face scans by drawing on facial hair. When accounts did close, children moved. Many reported spending more time on gaming platforms and messaging apps, and some said they felt less safe online than before. Apps left outside the ban, like WhatsApp, surged in popularity. One Australian research compared the regulator's job to a game of whack-a-mole, chasing each new app after children had already found it.

Gaming is one of the areas of greatest concern. Roblox and Discord were not among the services covered by Australia's initial ban, yet they offer friend lists, private chats, voice channels, group servers and strangers who can reach a child directly. Roblox now uses age-based controls to limit who can communicate with whom, but neither platform was required to keep a 14-year-old off the service entirely. Indonesia and Malaysia saw the same risk and included Roblox inside their bans.

If gaming and messaging services fall outside the bill's scope, children will simply do their socializing there instead. Platforms usually decide which country's law applies based on the Internet address the phone connects through and a VPN routes that connection through a server somewhere else. A teenager in Cambridge can appear to be in Kentucky, Kenya or Korea, all places where Canadian law does not reach. Many free VPNs make their money by collecting and selling what their users do online, and so a child using one may be handing their browsing history to a company nobody can identify. Australia's regulator now expects platforms to try to stop under-sixteens from using VPNs, but new servers appear faster than old ones can be blocked, which is another game of whack-a-mole.

Here is another weak point. Facial age estimation is quick and inexpensive, but even one of the industry's leading providers reports an average error of approximately one year for teenagers, yet this bill draws a hard line at a single birthday. An error of a year in either direction lets some 15-year-olds through and locks out some 17-year-olds, and children have already shown they will keep trying until the camera says yes.

Government ID is more accurate, but it means handing a child's identity to a private company, and that information is valuable to criminals and hostile foreign actors alike. To its credit, this bill says that information can only be used for age checks and must be destroyed once the check is done, but a rule on paper is not the same as a secure system. Every database containing sensitive information will eventually become a target. Just last month, IDScan.net confirmed a breach involving more than 150 million drivers' licences and identity records. The challenge is only growing as AI accelerates the discovery of software vulnerabilities and the speed at which attackers can exploit them.

Before coming to this House, I worked in systems architecture and database management. One thing this experience taught me is that data scheduled for deletion is still data until the moment it is actually deleted. Every additional database creates another target, another vulnerability and another risk that must be managed. Canadians need to know who will hold that information, where it will be stored, who owns the companies holding it, how long it will be retained and whether Canadians will be notified if a breach occurs.

There is also a gap that no age check closes because the bill restricts holding an account, not viewing content. The government's own charter statement confirms that young people would still be able to browse without an account. A child without an account can often still watch videos and scroll public feeds while logged out, where none of the teen safety settings or parental controls apply.

Parents are still the first line of defence for their children online. The question for Parliament is whether this bill gives parents meaningful tools to help protect their children or whether those tools and safeguards are more effective on paper than in real life.

Many countries are still adjusting their own approaches. France's constitutional council struck down the country's proposed social media ban before it could take effect, citing concerns about privacy safeguards and freedom of expression. All around the world, governments are trying to answer many of the same questions that Parliament is grappling with today.

Australia has also had to go back and strengthen its own law. It doubled the maximum penalty and gave its regulator the power to compel internal company documents. That should give us pause about enforcement here. Australia's regulator is well established, with experienced staff and existing powers, and it still needed months to open investigations into five platforms and has yet to issue a fine.

This bill would create a brand new commission of three to five members that would be starting from nothing while facing the same companies. Officials have said it could take 18 months to set up. However, the minister has said that platforms would have to act as soon as this law comes into effect. Much of what decides whether this law works has been left to regulations that Parliament has not seen. That does not mean the bill is wrong, but it does mean that Parliament is being asked to place considerable trust in decisions that have not yet been made.

Those are not arguments against protecting children online. They are questions Parliament should answer before concluding that this framework will work as intended. How will enforcement work in practice, and will it be based on a user's age or their apparent location? What age verification and safe design regulations will ultimately be adopted, and what opportunity will Parliament have to review them? How will children's age verification data be collected, stored, protected and deleted, and what happens if that information is breached? Will the bill follow children to where they actually spend their time online, including gaming platforms, messaging services and content viewed while logged out? How will Parliament and Canadians know whether the law is achieving its goals and whether circumvention remains widespread? What standards will a platform have to meet in order to be exempt from the age restriction, and how transparent will those decisions be?

I opened by saying that a security system is judged by its weakest point. Here, that weakest point could be a teenager with a VPN, a flawed age verification process, inconsistent and unenforceable rules, unanswered questions from a bureaucratic commission, rival platforms not covered by legislation, data security questions or other unintended consequences that we have not yet identified.

A bill like this, with such important goals and significant consequences, deserves careful study. We need a law that holds up when it is tested. Let us send this bill to committee. Let us find and fix those weak points. Let us get it right to protect our children.

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7:10 p.m.

Liberal

Kent MacDonald Liberal Cardigan, PE

Mr. Speaker, one of the first constituents I met upon getting elected lost their son to sextortion. This bill and our ability to get it right are very important to me and to the many parents out there who are living the nightmare of losing a child to this terrible plague.

I would ask the member across the way if she supports sending this bill to committee, hearing from experts and trying to get it right for all Canadians who are suffering?

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7:10 p.m.

Conservative

Connie Cody Conservative Cambridge, ON

Mr. Speaker, I completely sympathize with parents who have gone through things like coercion, extortion, and online harms and scams. We are seeing this happen and it is escalating. It is something that needs to be discussed at committee. We need to find a way to protect not only our children but families. As technology is growing, we need to move in a way that looks at everything.

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7:10 p.m.

Liberal

Steeve Lavoie Liberal Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Mr. Speaker, as I was saying earlier, knowing what goes on is important to parents. A lot has changed over the past 30 years. I see it myself as a parent, as I said earlier. My 31-year-old son has three children. What he experiences is entirely different. I feel that parents need help and support.

In her speech, my colleague said that we are not sure whether some platforms will be included or excluded. I would also like to point out that other platforms could be created after the bill passes. We therefore have to make sure to retain some flexibility.

Does my colleague agree that bills like this one should retain some flexibility? Platforms evolve quickly, and new ones are always being created. We therefore have to act quickly and avoid amending bills all the time. The government also needs the flexibility to support parents as they do their job.

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7:15 p.m.

Conservative

Connie Cody Conservative Cambridge, ON

Mr. Speaker, parents cannot take on some of the largest technology companies in the world by themselves. Parents can set boundaries, talk with their children and monitor device use, but they cannot control recommendation algorithms, platform design or how harmful content is promoted.

Platforms must be accountable for the risks they create, and government has an important role to play. My concern is simply ensuring that Bill C-34 gives parents meaningful support and meaningful tools, rather than creating systems that are more effective on paper than in practice.

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7:15 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate a number of the comments the member put on the record this evening.

I truly believe that every member of the House of Commons understands that there is harm to children and that the potential there is great. The issue is that as a Parliament, we have a responsibility to take action. Quite frankly, for me, the establishment of the digital safety commission of Canada would be a major step forward.

The member expressed some concerns with respect to it, but I wonder if she could provide her thoughts on the principle of having that commission. Is that something she supports?

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7:15 p.m.

Conservative

Connie Cody Conservative Cambridge, ON

Mr. Speaker, I think everyone in this House agrees that online harms are real and that children need better protection. The question is not whether action is needed. The question is whether the specific measures before us would deliver the results that families are expecting. If a law can be bypassed easily, if children can simply migrate to other platforms or if key details are left to future regulations, those are issues Parliament has a responsibility to examine carefully. We can act urgently while still making sure we get this right.

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7:15 p.m.

Liberal

Chi Nguyen Liberal Spadina—Harbourfront, ON

Mr. Speaker, I will be sharing my time with the member for Nipissing—Timiskaming.

I rise in the chamber in support of Bill C-34, the safe social media act. As a mom of two young boys, I think a lot about what it means to help them navigate an increasingly digital and online world. I want them to be able to learn and keep up with the things that delight them, while also keeping them safe from the challenges that the digital environment presents.

I know first-hand that parents are doing their best to help their kids to navigate an online world that is changing faster than any generation has experienced before. I also know that keeping up with fast-paced changing technology is a full-time job. I frequently speak with parents about how difficult it is to understand the apps our children use, as well as the difficulty in managing the content and people they might encounter. By the time many of us feel that we have understood one platform, something new replaces it and the learning curve starts all over again.

Even if we do everything we can, there is still a steady stream of decisions that are being made about our children's online experiences that we do not always have control over. We may not always understand why an algorithm keeps recommending specific videos or how a platform responds to discrimination and harassment. We cannot know everything an AI chatbot might say to a child who stumbles across it on purpose or by accident. Those decisions often belong to companies that build and operate these services. They have responsibilities here too.

In a 2024 survey from Public Safety Canada, only three in 10 youth said they felt safe online. Parents were even less likely to feel their children were safe in these digital spaces. The data is alarming. Young people spend so much of their time learning how to interact with one another and the world online. This is the new place where they explore who they are and find a sense of belonging. We also know that these consequences reach well beyond the screen. Classmates can circulate messages and pictures too quickly for parents, teachers and educators to keep up. All of this has an impact on whether our children can walk into school the next morning.

With artificial intelligence advancing at a rapid pace, we are at a crossroads. As legislators and parliamentarians, we have a responsibility to act now to ensure that these technologies are safe and accountable and that they support, rather than harm, the well-being of our children. That is the future I want for my two young boys and for every child growing up in Canada.

It is in this context that our government is introducing Bill C-34. This legislation would ensure that social media services and AI chatbots are safe by design. The bill includes measures such as a ban on social media for those under the age of 16 until a service can prove it is safe, a new digital safety commission to adjudicate the efficacy of a platform's safety policies and hold them to account, and faster removal processes for harmful or victimizing content. The commission would be responsible for the enforcement of the provisions of the act.

In this era where we are all navigating lives that have a physical and digital presence, there is a real urgency to act and to do this thoughtfully and well for all Canadians. It is an issue that many stakeholders who are concerned with the well-being of children and women have raised the alarm bells on, and on behalf of the residents of Spadina—Harbourfront, I am grateful that we are using our legislative tools to act.

One of the key measures of Bill C-34 is that it would ban children under the age of 16 from having accounts on social media services. AI chatbots would be subject to the duty to protect children and the duty to act responsibly, requiring them to mitigate risks of harmful behaviour by or induced by the chatbot. Everyone has a responsibility to protect our kids.

Bullying 25 years ago often ended when the school day was over. Today, children carry that harassment with them everywhere they go, with direct access through their phones and on social media platforms. They are also more vulnerable to online predators and other harmful actors who can now reach them easily. From online harassment and the spread of misinformation to the proliferation of harmful content such as revenge porn and AI-generated deepfakes, young people are facing challenges that previous generations could never have imagined.

In this new digital era, AI, algorithms and deepfake technologies are also enabling new forms of gender-based harassment and violence toward women and young girls. We must take a whole-of-government approach and consider how these measures, along with the actions we have taken over the past year, connect together. We moved forward on part of this work through Bill C-16, the Protecting Victims Act, whereby our government introduced reforms to protect children in online environments. This has included expanding the child luring offence to better address sextortion, criminalizing non-consensual sexual deepfakes, criminalizing bestiality depictions used to groom children, increasing penalties for child exploitation offences, and requiring online platforms to preserve evidence longer so offenders can be brought to justice. As a woman who stands in public office, it has been incredibly powerful to see our government work alongside other parties in the House to ensure that the sharing of non-consensual sexual deepfakes was criminalized.

No one bill can address every angle of these harms. Our legislation, prevention efforts, stakeholder groups and other supports must work in concert together to keep young people safe.

Last week, I hosted a documentary film screening on the Hill where parliamentarians, staff and community partners gathered together to watch Miss Representation: Rise Up. The documentary, directed by Jennifer Siebel Newsom, explores how social media and AI are fuelling a cultural backlash against women and young girls, affecting their mental health, autonomy and political power. The film is a sequel to the original, which debuted 15 years ago, and this update demonstrates how women's and young girls' experiences with media and technology have intensified quickly over time. The film not only reminds us of the harms the online space can present to young women but also sends a powerful message that technological innovation must be accompanied by accountability.

We need social media platforms to have the framework and regulations in place so that our children are safe online. Bill C-34 is the first piece of national legislation that establishes a regulatory framework for AI chatbots. The bill would require greater transparency from AI chatbots and impose obligations to direct users to intervention services when they express suicidal thoughts, self-harm or an intent to seriously harm others. It would also require operators to provide the new digital safety commission with clear, transparent information on their policies for referring conversations to the RCMP and other emergency services in the case of threats to seriously harm others. The tragedy in Tumbler Ridge is a stark reminder of what is at stake. It reinforces an important principle as we build this legislation and framework.

Canadians expect online platforms to have robust safety protocols and escalation practices in place to protect online safety and ensure that law enforcement is warned about potential violence. We must and can do better for our children and their families. The bill is an important step toward creating a safer digital environment for children across Canada. As the world changes, our legislation must reflect the new terrain we are living in, and the responsibility does not lie with parents and educators alone.

Earlier this month, I had the opportunity to participate in a round table discussion with Pinterest alongside representatives from civil society and academia. The message that came through clearly was that we must get the legislation right. That includes building a system that provides strong protections for children and young people while also recognizing that digital platforms are not all designed or used in the same way. Bill C-34 reflects this approach. The commission can exempt certain companies from the age limit requirement if they demonstrate that they meet adequate safeguards designed to protect children and youth.

Our government was elected on a mandate to protect Canadians, and that responsibility includes our children. Many democracies around the world are already taking action and understanding that the digital age requires new safeguards and standards of accountability. As a middle power with strong democratic values and a tradition of defending human rights, Canada now has the opportunity to help shape the growing global conversation on digital safety. We can work alongside our international partners and establish common standards, best practices and shared expertise.

As we consider what will work best in Canada, we have an opportunity to encourage platforms to design safer spaces from the beginning. That means giving clear responsibilities to put young people's safety at the centre of how their products are built. Blanket bans alone are not enough to support young people navigating the digital world. We must pair this with the right skill sets to recognize harm and set boundaries so everyone can use the technology responsibly. This can act as a model for the rest of us as we all trip through using new technologies together.

We do not have to choose between innovation and safety. Canada can lead with both. Through legislation such as Bill C-34, Canada can help set the standard for a digital future that puts the well-being of young people first.

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7:25 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, I really appreciate the hon. member's speech. The difficulty I struggle with is that even as good as the bill is, there is an assumption that these so-called platforms have a right to exist, that they are a part of our world and we cannot do anything about it.

I wonder if the government has given any thought, or whether it would be something the member could take up within the caucus, to how if we did not call them platforms and instead called them publishers, we would have a mountain of common law for what we do when a publisher publishes something damaging. If there is joint and several liability, it is the person who posts something anonymously and the publisher who are responsible. This is a larger question, but I want to pose it now.

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7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Chi Nguyen Liberal Spadina—Harbourfront, ON

Mr. Speaker, my hon. colleague has asked a fantastic and very thoughtful question about where this sits in the ecosystem. We are all asking thoughtful questions about what the right regulatory regimes and tools are, and I think the approach that our government is taking around an independent digital safety commission will help give the guidance that is needed here.

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7:25 p.m.

Mississauga—Streetsville Ontario

Liberal

Rechie Valdez LiberalMinister of Women and Gender Equality and Secretary of State (Small Business and Tourism)

Mr. Speaker, one of the things the hon. member mentioned was the documentary Miss Representation: Rise Up, which I had the opportunity of watching. In it, there were a couple of stories of incredible young women, and what they were experiencing online was deeply disturbing. In terms of the new legislation, the digital safety act and the digital safety commission of Canada act, I wonder what the member would like to say on this that would help address some of the concerns of those young women in the documentary.

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7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Chi Nguyen Liberal Spadina—Harbourfront, ON

Madam Speaker, the minister and I really enjoyed watching the film together. At this time when many young women are thinking about what it means to step into and engage in democracy, we have a responsibility to step forward and make sure we get this right. There are real threats to Canadian democracy, and we want to make sure we can all participate safely. What we are doing here sets the groundwork for that.

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7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Steeve Lavoie Liberal Beauport—Limoilou, QC

Madam Speaker, I thank my colleague for her excellent speech, which I really appreciated.

She has two kids. I have four kids and three grandkids. We will be hearing about kids and grandkids all evening. I talk about this a lot because I am proud of it. I am 51 years old, and I had my first son when I was 20. That kind of thing is life-changing. My son is now 31 and has three children of his own, but things are different these days. The world has changed. When I was 20, we did not have tablets or cell phones. We did our best. When I look at him now with his three boys, I wonder how he handles all this, given everything that is currently happening on digital platforms.

I have a question for my colleague. Does she believe that the government should help parents by supporting them, not by replacing them?

At the end of the day, parents are the ones responsible for taking care of their children and making decisions about them every day. However, a responsible government can certainly support parents in raising their children. I would like to know: Does my colleague think the government should help parents?

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October 28th, 2026 / 7:25 p.m.

Liberal

Chi Nguyen Liberal Spadina—Harbourfront, ON

Madam Speaker, today I actually received an email from my children's school that said there has been some sharing of deepfakes circulating in grade 7 and grade 8. We have a role, everyone, including the government, and there is a piece of work around education and promotion that is really critical. That is work we are taking on as a government, and we need to do this in partnership with stakeholders to get this right. There is a lot of hard work ahead.

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7:30 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Madam Speaker, I wanted to reaffirm the targets set out in the bill for harmful content: non-consensual intimate content, child sexual victimization, content inducing a child to self-harm, child bullying, hate, incitement to violence, and terrorism or violent extremism content. It is important that we are establishing that a great deal of hurt is there, and it is the primary reason this legislation is necessary, which would be enforced by having the commission put in place.

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7:30 p.m.

Liberal

Chi Nguyen Liberal Spadina—Harbourfront, ON

Madam Speaker, I agree.

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7:30 p.m.

Nipissing—Timiskaming Ontario

Liberal

Pauline Rochefort LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Secretary of State (Rural Development)

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to speak to Bill C-34, an act to enact the digital safety act and the digital safety commission of Canada act.

I want residents of Nipissing—Timiskaming to know why I will be voting for this bill, so I will explain. I will start with a question. It will show my age, but the question is simple. Do members remember when keeping a child safe meant knowing where they were and who they were with? Many parents and grandparents will remember those days. The rule was simple: Be home before dark.

Today, a child can be sitting beside a parent in the living room and talking to someone online who the parent knows nothing about. The child is home, and the parent feels reassured, but the risks on the screen may be hidden. The front door may be locked, but the phone is still connected. A cruel message can arrive at any hour, a humiliating image can spread in seconds, and bullying can follow a child home from school.

Childhood has changed. Parenting, as my colleague described previously, has become more complicated. Living in a peaceful northern Ontario community does not shield a child from online harm. We protect children at school and on our roads. They deserve the same protection online.

Parents, schools and governments all have a role to play, and so do the companies behind TikTok, Instagram, Snapchat, Facebook, YouTube, others that may be out there and others that will come. I think it is very important to note that all these companies provide so many benefits. They bring benefits to our lives. In northern Ontario, where distances are part of our daily life, online platforms help young people stay close to friends and family, including their grandparents. They help them learn, create and connect. Those connections matter, and there are many more benefits we could talk about. Our task is to preserve those benefits while reducing the risks.

The evidence shows that action is needed. According to Statistics Canada, one in four young Canadians aged 12 to 17 reported experiencing cyber-bullying in the previous year. Among young people who have a hard time making friends, that number is even higher, at one in three. Let us think about that. These are young people who struggle to make connections, who go online and are subjected to cyber-bullying. Behind these figures lie children, families and very real suffering.

What would Bill C-34 do? I will highlight the three major changes.

First, it would provide stronger protection for children under 16. The bill would prevent children under 16 from having accounts on social media services. However, a platform could receive an exemption if it demonstrated adequate safeguards for children. That gives companies an incentive to act and an incentive to make their services safer.

Second, the bill would create a digital safety commission. It would review companies' safety plans and oversee whether they are meeting their duties. If a company is earning money supplying services to Canadians, it only makes sense that it should explain how it is managing those risks. Someone should be there to check whether its measures are adequate. That would be the role of the digital safety commission.

Third, the bill would require action on some of the most harmful material online. This includes content that sexually victimizes a child and intimate images shared without consent. The proposed framework would require these types of content to be made inaccessible within hours of being either identified by the service provider or flagged by a user. Members can imagine a young person discovering that an intimate image of them is being shared. We can imagine their fear and a parent trying to find a way to deal with the issue. In those moments, time matters.

The bill would also address risks from artificial intelligence and, specifically, chatbots. Regulated chatbot services would have to take steps to reduce harmful behaviour and direct users toward crisis support in certain serious situations.

Now, some parents will say, “I know my child. I know what's best. I should decide.” I respect that view. Parents know their children in ways that governments never will, but parents do not design the systems that decide which video appears next to a video that they approved. They cannot control how quickly an image can spread or check every account that comes into contact with their child. In this environment, how much can a family truly manage? We can think of a parent who is working shift work, a caregiver who has several children, a grandparent who knows little about the app. Online safety should not depend entirely on a family's spare time or technical knowledge.

We already accept that children need different rules as they grow. We set minimum driving ages, require safety features in vehicles and teach young drivers how to use the road. While social media certainly is different from driving, the principle is useful. Education, family guidance and safety standards can work together.

Just as there are underage drivers, there will also be some who will try to get around the rules. That is why the bill would require covered platforms to use effective age checks with oversight from the digital safety commission. Companies that fail to meet their duties could face corrective orders and substantial financial penalties. A measure does not have to prevent every incident to serve a purpose. Seat belts are an excellent example of that. They do not, unfortunately, prevent every injury. We still require them because reducing harm matters.

The test should be clear. Do these measures work, and are they proportionate to the risks?

Some key questions also need to be answered. How can age be verified without compromising privacy? Who will have access to the information collected? How long will it be kept? Those are all great questions. The bill provides for safeguards regarding the information used during the age verification process, including its protection and destruction once the verification is complete. It also restricts the collection and use for the purposes of the verification. Protecting children also means protecting their personal information. The two go hand in hand.

It is important to note that Canadians want us to act. In a March 2026 Angus Reid poll of 4,000 people, 75% of respondents supported a ban on social media for those under the age of 16. People in Nipissing—Timiskaming are also calling on us to better protect children online.

There are certainly things that should give us pause. Certain details will be difficult to sort out, but doing nothing also has consequences.

For a child being bullied tonight, the harm is already happening. For a family trying to stop an intimate image from spreading, the need is immediate. We cannot promise a world without risk, but we can take reasonable steps to make it safer. As Parliament studies this bill, young people themselves must have a voice. I encourage young people from Nipissing—Timiskaming to contact my office and tell us what helps them online, what concerns them and what would make their experience safer. We need to hear from them.

I conclude by saying that, ultimately, whether we are young, old, parents or young people, we all share a responsibility to help ensure that all children are prepared for the world they are entering. We have a responsibility to ensure that it is a world that is safe for them. Children deserve a safe world.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Madam Speaker, my colleague opposite mentioned rural and remote communities. We know we need these safeguards to keep kids safe online, but there has actually been comprehensive research that shows that with the right and appropriate safeguards, particularly for teens who are more in the 15 to 16 years old age range, some forms of social media might actually provide benefits, particularly in rural communities and particularly for young sexual minority groups. These young adults may depend on online platforms for peer support, cultural connection and access to resources unavailable in their off-line environments. Systemic academic reviews confirm these facts.

I am not saying there should not be online safeguards for kids, because there have to be, but if the government is going to apply these safeguards, there is also a risk that these resources could be removed.

What is she doing to replace them?

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Liberal

Pauline Rochefort Liberal Nipissing—Timiskaming, ON

Madam Speaker, yes, certainly I am from what we would define as a northern rural community. Actually, in the past month or so, we have been making many calls to residents in our riding. There is very strong support for this particular bill, and there is concern around social media exposure for kids 16 and under. I do recognize all the benefits she pointed out, and I do not disagree with what she said. At the same time, there is a world out there that is also in need of some regulation, and that is what this bill is proposing.

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Liberal

Rechie Valdez LiberalMinister of Women and Gender Equality and Secretary of State (Small Business and Tourism)

Madam Speaker, Miriam from my riding has said that becoming a new parent recently has made her so scared of how quickly social media is changing. She hopes her son grows in a world with a safer Internet space. She can only protect him so much. Every other product a child uses had to meet a safety standard before it reaches them. There are car seats. There are medicines and there are toys. When he grows older and would like a phone, she is scared of how much access he will get to an unregulated online world. When it comes to kids' safety, the apps on phones are the one exception not required to meet a safety standard.

I just wanted to ask the member for her thoughts on what Miriam said.

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Liberal

Pauline Rochefort Liberal Nipissing—Timiskaming, ON

Madam Speaker, I would simply like to respond by saying that there is a reason democracies around the world, from Australia to the United Kingdom, are taking action on this issue. It is exactly for the reason the member described, and this is why it is timely for us to take action as a country.

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Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Madam Speaker, again, I just want to point out that my colleague opposite actually did not answer the question. She did not talk about what resources would be available to young sexual minorities in rural communities who might use, with appropriate safeguards, certain types of social media to find resources and find community. She did not answer that question and that is a concern in her riding that she failed to be accountable for.

We know from Australia what has happened with its very similar legislation is that this has actually pushed kids off safe spaces and into the dark web. The bill is silent on how the government would handle that. In fact, it is asking Parliament to devolve a lot of power into regulation without answering some of these key questions. Also, the bill does not include some of the most pernicious places that have a lack of online safety, like gaming platforms.

Why would my colleague be silent on the types of resources that would be removed from young sexual minorities in her riding? Why would she be silent and not provide more details or scrutiny on the fact that certain types of platforms where we know this type of abuse happens, like gaming platforms, are not included in this bill?