House of Commons Hansard #83 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was extortion.

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Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claims Members debate rising extortion rates and Canada's justice and immigration systems. Conservatives propose barring non-citizens convicted of serious crimes or with active judicial proceedings from making refugee claims, ending leniency to avoid deportation, and repealing Bills C-5 and C-75, citing a "revolving door justice system." Liberals defend their "tough-on-crime" agenda, highlighting pending legislation like lawful access and bail reform, and accuse Conservatives of obstruction. The Bloc opposes the motion, raising concerns for political prisoners and potential legal challenges. 48900 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives focus on the rising cost of living, citing high food inflation, increasing consumer bankruptcies, and the impact of Liberal deficits and taxes. They condemn the surge in extortion and propose barring criminals from claiming refugee status. They also criticize subsidies for foreign-made electric vehicles amid Canadian auto job losses.
The Liberals highlight their strengthening economy, job creation, and investments in affordability for Canadians through tax cuts and benefits. They emphasize their auto strategy, investing in electric vehicle manufacturing and charging infrastructure. They also focus on tightening bail and sentences for extortion, improving lawful access, and taking control over immigration, while accusing the opposition of obstruction.
The Bloc criticizes government inconsistency on F-35 contracts, urging their suspension despite US reliability concerns. They also condemn the denial of 85,000 seniors facing Old Age Security benefit issues due to faulty Cúram software.
The NDP advocates for an independent foreign policy against the US blockade on Cuba and urges protection of universal healthcare.
The Greens raise a point of order concerning Bill C-2, arguing it violates the "same question rule" as much of its content is already in Bill C-12. They request its removal from the Order Paper or reintroduction with only unique sections like warrantless access.

Arab Heritage Month Act Second reading of Bill S-227. The bill, S-227, An Act respecting Arab Heritage Month, proposes designating April as Arab Heritage Month in Canada. Members from the Conservative, Bloc Québécois, and Liberal parties express support, highlighting the significant contributions of Arab Canadians to Canadian society, culture, and economy, and the importance of recognition, education, and belonging. The bill passed second reading and was referred to committee. 3200 words, 25 minutes.

Adjournment Debates

Pacific Salmon Strategy Initiative Gord Johns raises concerns about the sunsetting Pacific Salmon Strategy Initiative and the salmon allocation policy review. He stresses the need for stable funding and honest communication. Jaime Battiste highlights the government's investments and collaborations, assuring ongoing discussions and commitment to the sustainability of Pacific salmon.
High food prices Arpan Khanna raises concerns about high food prices, sharing a story about a senior considering MAID due to food insecurity, and blaming Liberal policies. Peter Fragiskatos acknowledges the problem, and asks Khanna to propose solutions. Khanna suggests removing hidden food taxes and tariffs, while Fragiskatos questions the impact of the carbon tax.
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Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

12:45 p.m.

Conservative

Tim Uppal Conservative Edmonton Gateway, AB

Mr. Speaker, what we see from the Liberals over and over again is more photo ops and more press conferences. They have had summits, meetings and discussions across the country. What we do not see is what they have actually done.

There has been no action. They said before the summer that they would hire 1,000 new RCMP officers. After the summer, we asked them in the fall how many of those have been hired. None had been hired.

They are not taking action. It is more talk from the Liberals. Canadians need action to protect them.

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

12:50 p.m.

Battle River—Crowfoot Alberta

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre ConservativeLeader of the Opposition

Mr. Speaker, when I sat in the basement of a Surrey home and met with the Sahsi family, I could see a combination of fear and anger in the sons who had lost their father, a law-abiding Canadian, a successful businessman, a pillar of the community, Darshan Sahsi, who was gunned down presumably by extortionists. Not long after that, I was at Radio Swift in Surrey, and as I looked up in the studio, staring me in the eye was a bullet hole put there by extortionists who had demanded that the owner pay money to avoid violence.

The other day, I spoke to a Lower Mainland, British Columbia, mother who was paid a visit by police officers warning her that a house on the street was the subject of extortion threats and so there may be stray bullets flying around the neighbourhood, such that some might consider moving their families into the basement, which is to say, not living on the main floor of the home, to avoid the prospect of a stray bullet flying through the window and killing a family member. Many others are saying they are leaving Canada altogether for fear of extortion, going as far away as possible to hide from the extortionists the Liberals have let into the country.

Why now, after 10 years of Liberals, do we in Canada suddenly have an extortion problem that never existed before? Liberal laws have turned extortionists loose on our streets, and Liberal immigration has allowed them into the country in the first place. When they get here and they finally get caught, they can declare refugee status and, under the Liberal laws, avoid leaving the country altogether.

The CBSA reported in December that 15 foreign nationals charged with extortion suddenly discovered they were refugees and claimed status so that they could stay in Canada. Now, because the Liberal government allows these phony claims to occur, Canadians will need to spend millions of dollars housing, feeding and paying the legal bills of these criminals. By the way, there will be an endless string of appeals, so that even when their claims are eventually rejected, God willing, it will still be seven years' more cost and more danger for Canadians. Liberals force taxpayers to pay for a higher standard of living for foreign criminals living wrongly in Canada than they allow for the hard-working, law-abiding seniors who built this country.

We have seen cases, case after case actually, where judges relying on Liberal laws are reducing sentences for foreign nationals who commit crimes in Canada to avoid “immigration consequences”. In one case, a foreign national attempted to buy sex with a child and received a lighter sentence so deportation could be avoided. In another, a foreign national driving the wrong way on a street crashed into and killed an entire family. He got just months in jail because the court wanted to protect his immigration status. In Calgary, a non-citizen convicted of sexual assault got leniency so that he could stay in Canada.

Canadians deserve to live in safe communities. They deserve freedom from random violence. They deserve to ride transit without fear of being attacked by strangers. They deserve to know that their kids can play safely in the streets, including into the evening hours. They deserve to run businesses without getting threatened or shot at or having their storefront burned down. They deserve justice and immigration systems that put law-abiding Canadians first, not foreign national criminals.

There is a direct cause and effect here. Liberal catch-and-release laws and Liberal open borders immigration have led to this 330% increase in extortion. We can say that in the inverse: that extortion was about 90% lower when the Conservatives were in power. As we see Liberal members trying to blame others for their 10-year-long record, we can see that it is under their watch and their laws that we have witnessed the more than quadrupling of this horrendous sector of crime.

There has been a 55% increase, under the Liberal government, in violent crime overall. Businesses are being shaken down. Bullets are shot through storefront windows. Firebombs are thrown in residential neighbourhoods. Extortionists are now so brazen that they post videos of shooting up residential communities on their social media because they know there will be no consequences for their crimes under the Liberal government. This is the daily reality for too many Canadians in Surrey, Brampton, Vancouver, Calgary and the GTA.

I was at a Calgary business that builds homes a few months back. I did a photo line, where I met with all the people who wanted to say hello. Out of about 150 conversations, there must have been 30 or so people who had either been threatened or knew someone who had been threatened. About 20% of the people I spoke to said they had been or that a close loved one had been threatened with extortion.

This crisis was not predetermined but it was predictable. We predicted that this would happen when the Liberals passed laws unleashing this crime.

I look across the aisle at the Liberal government here today. The same ministers who are now in the Liberal cabinet voted for the laws that caused this. They voted for the Liberal bill, Bill C-75, which created Liberal bail. Liberal bail is a system that requires judges to release criminals at the earliest opportunity under the least onerous conditions, something the Prime Minister continues to support.

The Liberal government, including the members sitting here with us, voted for Bill C-5, which actually reduced jail time for extortion with a gun. The Liberal government brought in laws that actually lowered sentences for violent and sexual offenders, allowing them to serve their sentences in the comfort of their living rooms. We have worked to reverse these Liberal laws by putting forward common-sense proposals that would keep our Canadian people safe. We have tried, but the Liberals will not stop obstructing in order to protect their soft-on-crime agenda.

Conservatives have tried. We put forward amendments to the Criminal Code. For example, there was Bill C-381. I think that was the member for Edmonton Gateway's bill. It would create mandatory prison sentences of 10 years for extortionists. Liberals blocked it. Liberals obstructed. We tried to repeal Bill C-75, catch-and-release bail, but Liberals obstructed and blocked us. We tried to repeal Bill C-5, the house arrest law. Liberals obstructed and Liberals blocked. They opposed the Conservative bill, Bill C-220, which would have prevented judges from giving lighter sentences to people based on the fact that they are here as immigrants.

We are calling on the government to stop obstructing and stop preventing us from fixing the system that it broke. That means acting now. Today, we have before the House of Commons a motion that would ensure that anyone convicted of a crime would not be eligible to seek refugee status in Canada. It would require that they be removed immediately from our country and that their status as an asylum seeker would immediately be revoked.

This is a reasonable motion that would bring peace and tranquility to our communities. It would allow small business people to once again operate fearlessly, focusing all of their attention on hiring workers and providing affordable goods to their customers. It would allow the law-abiding immigrants who came here to contribute to do so in open and free communities without fear of danger. It would allow places like Surrey, Brampton, northeast Calgary, Vancouver and the GTA to be peaceful and tranquil once again, as they were before the Liberal government.

We ask them to work with us, to put aside partisan obstructionism, to accept that they were wrong to liberalize our laws and our borders, and to instead stand on the side of law-abiding, hard-working Canadians and restore the promise of safe streets and a country filled with opportunity and security.

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1 p.m.

Brampton North—Caledon Ontario

Liberal

Ruby Sahota LiberalSecretary of State (Combatting Crime)

Mr. Speaker, we care deeply about this issue. That is why we put forward six bills to help address it. If the Leader of the Opposition cared so much, he would put forward a genuine suggestion, not one in a motion that is made moot by Bill C-12, the stronger immigration and borders act, which is already in the Senate. It makes all of their suggestions moot. What he should do is address the issue of Bill C-2, which is lawful access. Police have been asking for this provision across this country.

Let me put it in simple terms that the Leader of the Opposition would understand: Would he allow the vote and pass the bill, so that, therefore, we could catch the criminals?

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, they have not brought that bill back for a vote, so they might actually want to decide what they are doing. Bill C-2 is about allowing the government to read personal emails and mail without a warrant. That is what the bill does. The problem is not that law-abiding Canadians need to be spied upon; it is that foreign criminals need to be kicked out of this country.

The member then went on to say that she has already passed a bill, which is now in the Senate, that would do everything that is in this motion. If that were the case, then they would have no problem voting for the motion. Of course, that is not the case. They have passed no such law. In fact, they are blocking and obstructing action to protect Canadians.

Let me read the motion, as I would like them to tell us which part they disagree with. Is it barring non-citizens convicted of serious crimes from making refugee claims, barring non-citizens with judicial proceedings, ending the practice of leniency for non-citizens convicted of serious crimes, or repealing Liberal bail and house arrest?

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1 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette—Manawan, QC

Mr. Speaker, the motion calls on the government to “bar non-citizens convicted of serious crimes from making refugee claims”. However, it seems to overlook the existence of political refugees, people falsely accused of committing criminal acts by corrupt authoritarian regimes. If adopted as is, the motion would prevent someone like Raif Badawi from joining his family in Canada.

That is why the Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada exists: to determine whether or not the charges these people face are valid. Barring anyone who is facing charges from entering the country makes no sense, considering some could be political refugees.

Is the hon. leader of the Conservative Party prepared to amend his motion to that effect?

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, I would be willing to consider an amendment.

The member says that there should be a process to allow foreign criminals to appeal to remain in Canada. I do not agree. Once someone has been convicted of a serious crime, they should be removed from Canada. They should not be entitled to years and years of expensive legal appeals that are paid for by our taxpayers and that allow foreign criminals to have a better quality of life and a higher income than Canadian seniors who have contributed to our country for many years.

We want to bring back the principle that Canadians matter. We will protect our own people, not foreign criminals.

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1 p.m.

Conservative

Michelle Rempel Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB

Mr. Speaker, today, if a non-citizen enters Canada, there is nothing to stop them from committing a serious violent crime and then going on to make a bogus asylum claim. This is why Conservatives put forward an amendment to Bill C-12 to close this loophole.

Could the Leader of the Opposition speculate as to why the Liberals are trying to pass off the one-year, get-out-of-jail-free card, bogus refugee policy that is in Bill C-12 right now as a good thing, as opposed to actually fixing the problem?

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1 p.m.

Conservative

Pierre Poilievre Conservative Battle River—Crowfoot, AB

Mr. Speaker, the member is quite right. I heard the Liberal members across the way say that a convicted criminal would not be able to get their refugee status recognized. Even if that were true, and it is not, the problem right now is that they get to spend seven or eight years in appeals before they actually leave, during which time we have to pay their bills.

I have asked the Liberal members to tell us what in this motion they are against: barring non-citizens convicted of serious crimes from making refugee claims, barring non-citizens with active judicial proceedings related to serious crimes from making refugee claims, ending the practice of leniency to non-citizens convicted of serious crimes to avoid deportation, or repealing Liberal bail and Liberal house arrest.

Which of those individual measures are they opposed to? Let them say it out loud so Canadians can understand their real agenda.

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:05 p.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to rise. I found it a bit much when I heard the Leader of the Opposition saying “blocking and obstructing” and attributing those two words to the government. Talk about hypocrisy.

At the end of the day, we need to reflect on why we are where we are today. The new Prime Minister was elected less than a year ago. Going through the last campaign, it was well defined that we needed and wanted to do something in regard to crime. It is an election platform issue. The Prime Minister and the government, meaning every Liberal member of Parliament, made a commitment to deal with the issue of crime. As a holistic approach, we have a serious package of legislation before us today.

When the leader of the Conservative Party tries to give false information and mislead Canadians, whether it is inside or outside this chamber, he does a disservice to all Canadians. It might be good for the Conservative Party of Canada, but it is not good for Canadians. Canadians, even Conservative-minded Canadians living in Conservative MPs' ridings, know that what the Conservatives are saying is wrong and want to see the crime package of bills passed here in the House of Commons.

It is absolutely ridiculous to try to imply that the Conservative Party is not filibustering our legislation, because that is the reality. They talk about it. They complain about it. They spread misinformation through social media, yet when it comes time to actually act in the best interests of Canadians, they filibuster.

I could talk about Bill C-2. Bill C-2 deals with lawful access amongst other things. The Conservative approach to that was that they did not want it to go anywhere. They were so stubborn in filibustering Bill C-2 that the government had to come up with a new piece of legislation, Bill C-12. Bill C-12 was a huge effort by a couple of ministers, in particular the Minister of Immigration, to deal with the types of issues that the Conservatives are talking about in their motion, yet Bill C-12, the new bill, has not passed, just take a look at the time it took for the Conservative Party to get it out at third reading.

Bill C-2, on the other hand, on lawful access, is going nowhere. The Conservative Party refuses to enable our law enforcement agencies to have lawful access. Every one of the other Five Eyes countries has it, just not Canada. The Conservative Party refuses to allow it to proceed. They talk about extortion, but if they believe in fighting extortion, then they should pass Bill C-2.

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1:05 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Tell the truth, Kevin.

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:05 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, that is the truth.

By the way, I will be splitting my time with the member for Davenport.

However, it goes far beyond that. Let us look at Bill C-9, on combatting racism and hate. Once again, the Conservative Party is preventing that legislation from passing. Conservatives will not even let it out of the committee. It is filibuster after filibuster. They complain a lot to Canadians, but in reality, when it comes to actions, their only action is to filibuster to prevent legislation from passing and to try to frustrate the government. Bill C-9 is still in committee, with no indication that it is going to pass.

Bill C-14 is such an important piece of legislation that I have asked the House to sit until midnight. I have asked, for weeks, for unanimous consent for us to continue on, to try to get the Conservatives to acknowledge the importance of bail reform legislation.

That is what Bill C-14 is: important bail reform legislation that every provincial and territorial premier has indicated they want passed. Law enforcement agencies and Canadians as a whole are demanding bail reform legislation. The only reason we do not have bail reform laws today in Canada is the Conservative Party of Canada, and the leader tries to imply that we are being obstructionist. What a joke that is. The Conservative Party has consistently been filibustering important legislation.

We can talk about Bill C-16. It was not that long ago that we introduced it for second reading. I listen to what the Conservatives have already indicated. They do not like the bill. Bill C-16 would reinstate mandatory minimum sentences in law. With respect to the issue of femicide, the bill is something that I think would put Canada on the front line in terms of dealing with that very important issue.

Where are the Conservatives on it? They say we have given ourselves only a couple of days of debate, and they want more debate. Nothing prevents them from allowing legislation to at least get to the committee stage. We can have extensive debates and all sorts of presentations, and hear from Canadians. We can still have debate when a bill comes back for third reading. The Conservatives use this as an excuse; it is not real or legitimate in terms of their filibustering.

The Conservatives say they want democracy inside the chamber. I love and support democracy; that is the reason I have asked on many occasions to allow us to sit longer hours so more members would be able to speak to issues. That is why I have argued that some of the silliness, such as some of the concurrence reports that the Conservatives have brought, has been to prevent the government from passing a legislative agenda dealing with crime.

The Conservative Party is not consistent. The only thing it is consistent on is self-serving. Conservatives prefer to serve the interests of the Conservative Party of Canada than to serve the interests of Canadians. They make a pile of money through fundraising, generating millions of dollars by trying to preach through emails and so forth that the government is not doing anything. The ultimate irony is that the Conservative Party would actually prevent legislation from passing, then say the government controls the legislative agenda and that it cannot pass anything.

Given a dozen grade 12 students from any public school in Canada, I can filibuster indefinitely too. It does not take much to filibuster legislation, and the Conservative Party has actually demonstrated that. I have witnessed a destructive force from the Conservative Party in dealing with legislation. The Conservatives talk about other commitments and ask why the government has not brought them forward.

The budget implementation bill is legislation that the Conservatives continue to filibuster. There is no indication whatsoever. If the leader of the Conservative Party were true to his words, the Conservative Party would come forward and say, “Here is the legislation we will pass. Let us get it to committee. Let us get things to third reading. Let us deliver for Canadians.”

That is what we should be striving to do. That is why there is a great deal of frustration coming from the government benches. Because of a minority government, we need to have more co-operation coming from opposition, and that is just not happening. We are not getting the co-operation required in order to pass the legislation that Canadians deserve. That was legislation that was made in the form of an election platform.

Even though it is platform issues that we are talking about, commitments that were made to Canadians, the Conservative Party of Canada continues to filibuster. That is the reason I ultimately believe that the Conservative Party needs to start listening to what Canadians are saying and responding in kind here on the floor of the House of Commons. They can do a whole lot better on delivering to Canadians by listening to Canadians and actually giving more co-operation in passing the legislation.

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1:15 p.m.

Conservative

Rhonda Kirkland Conservative Oshawa, ON

Mr. Speaker, so many pieces of the member from Winnipeg North's speech did not make a lot of sense. A couple of things were regarding Bill C-14. The Liberals were the ones who decided to defer Bill C-14. The member mentioned the BIA. Portions of that are going to be looked at in the public safety committee. The minute that motion came forward, we all voted in favour of looking at it right away to move it in front of other things, so what the member said is simply not the fact.

We also talked about Bill C-16. We support a lot of Bill C-16 , but we do not support that it would take away the mandatory part of minimum sentences.

The last note I have is that the member talked about filibustering. The member for Ajax, a near-neighbour of mine, is a parliamentary secretary. She has stood up in the House and spoken 32 times so far this session. The member who just spoke has filibustered; he has stood up 1,250 times.

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, I do not quite understand that last bit.

At the end of the day, the Conservatives can say whatever they want in regard to the bail reform legislation. If they look at one of my 1,000-plus comments, they would find that I have consistently said on behalf of the Government of Canada that the bail reform legislation was absolutely critical.

I challenged the Conservatives in November and December to give Canadians a Christmas gift and allow Bill C-14 to go through the system. I even stood up in the chamber and asked for leave to get Bill C-14 passed, even to accommodate that by allowing us to sit until midnight for two weeks. The only people who said no to it were the Conservative members of Parliament.

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:15 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette—Manawan, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am increasingly concerned about the parliamentary secretary's growing anger. I have had the honour of serving with him for just over a decade. Instead of talking about the motion, he is saying that the government is unable to move its legislative agenda forward as it would like. He is talking as though the government has a majority, when, as we know, this is a minority government.

The government is so close to having a majority, that before some Liberal members resigned, it was one vote away from a majority. This means that the Liberals could come to an agreement with the Conservative Party, the Bloc Québécois, the NDP or even the Green Party member to move their work forward. There are measures that can be used to block stalling tactics if one has a majority of votes in the House.

Why is the government behaving as though it has a majority when it has a minority government and up to four opportunities to come to an agreement with parties and move its work forward?

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:15 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, it is not that we are acting as if we had a majority. I suspect there is a great deal of frustration because there is substantial legislation before us that is election-driven. There is a newly elected Prime Minister, elected less than a year ago, who made commitments to Canadians in the last federal election. Every Liberal member of Parliament wants the legislation we advocated for in the last election, but we are finding that the opposition parties continue to want to filibuster that legislation, which does cause frustration.

That is one of the disadvantages of a minority government. What is necessary is for opposition members to come forward and say that if we cannot get the support of the Conservative Party, they will work with us on—

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:15 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Questions and comments, the hon. member for Saanich—Gulf Islands.

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:15 p.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, my hon. friend from Winnipeg North will know that I am pretty fair-minded. If the Conservatives are filibustering, I would love to join him in denouncing that, but I do not see any sign of the Conservatives' filibustering, particularly on Bill C-2, which came forward for first reading on June 5. The Liberals then put it up for debate on June 18, September 16 and September 17, and we have not seen it since, largely because huge portions of it were put into Bill C-12. I do not see any signs of the Conservatives' stopping Bill C-12, since it went through on December 11 by unanimous consent. I asked to be registered as in opposition.

In fairness, could my hon. colleague point out any episode that I could not find online, in the committee hearings or in the House of filibustering by the Conservatives on Bill C-2?

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux Liberal Winnipeg North, MB

Mr. Speaker, I absolutely could, and if the member wants to sit down with me, I will go into great detail with her on it.

Remember that the reason we stopped calling Bill C-2 was that the Conservative Party refused to pass it. That was why we had to come up with Bill C-12; it was a compromise. It was the only thing the Conservatives would pass that was from Bill C-2, which denied Canadians' having a law that had lawful access, which deals with extortion, and—

Opposition Motion—Serious crimes and refugee claimsBusiness of SupplyGovernment Orders

1:20 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

Resuming debate, the hon. member for Davenport.

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1:20 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am not going to be as passionate an intervenor as my dear colleague from Winnipeg North, but nonetheless I have a few very important things to say about the opposition day motion today.

I appreciate the opportunity to participate in the debate today. As the chair of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration and as someone who has heard testimony from legal experts, law enforcement and settlement organizations over recent months, I rise to speak to the motion with a perspective grounded in both evidence and our government's principled approach to public safety.

As members may know, I am the daughter of immigrant parents who fled their respective countries due to poverty, war and discrimination. They came to Canada to find a safe place to raise their children, so I very much understand on a personal level what our immigration system means to families, but I also understand that public safety must always be paramount.

Let me be absolutely clear from the outset: Claiming asylum cannot and will not prevent criminals from being punished to the fullest extent of the law. The Conservatives would have Canadians believe that our asylum system provides a safe haven for criminals. This is simply not true. Our Immigration and Refugee Protection Act already establishes that a claim is ineligible to be referred to the Immigration and Refugee Board if the claimant has been determined to be inadmissible on grounds of serious criminality or by reason of a conviction in Canada for an offence punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 10 years.

When CBSA believes a claimant is inadmissible on the grounds of serious criminality, their claim is put on hold while their case goes through the criminal justice system. If they are found guilty, their asylum claim is terminated. Their authorized period of stay in Canada ends, and they will face removal. In cases of serious inadmissibility, removed foreign nationals are permanently barred from re-entering Canada. Criminal matters take precedence over immigration matters. Making a refugee claim does not exempt lawbreakers from the consequences of their actions.

I want to address the calls in the motion to repeal Bill C-5 and Bill C-75. The Conservatives claim Bill C-5 allowed house arrest for serious crimes like extortion. This is simply incorrect. Conditional sentence orders are never available where the sentence is two years or more, which is typically the case in serious extortion offences. They are also unavailable where an offender poses a threat to public safety. Furthermore, we maintained mandatory jail time for extortion involving restricted or illegal firearms or extortion connected to criminal organizations, precisely the types of extortion cases Canadians are most concerned about today. The Conservatives should do their homework before repeating slogans.

On Bill C-75, the Conservatives' central criticism is that it codified the principle of restraint and bail, but what they refuse to acknowledge is that Bill C-75 actually strengthened protections for victims of intimate partner violence. It formally defined “intimate partner” in the Criminal Code to include ex-partners. It created a reverse onus for repeat intimate partner violence offenders, making it harder for them to obtain bail, and it now requires judges to consider prior intimate partner violence convictions and imposes stronger penalties for repeat offenders.

The president of the Criminal Lawyers' Association of Canada has stated clearly that the claim that Bill C-75 weakened public safety is a false narrative. Canadians deserve a debate grounded in facts. If the Conservatives want to repeal a law that made it harder for repeat intimate partner violence offenders to get bail, then they should say so directly.

Just last week at the immigration committee I chair, we heard from Professor Audrey Macklin, chair of human rights law at the University of Toronto. She confirmed that under Canadian law as it currently exists, individuals convicted of serious crimes are ineligible to seek refugee protection. When asked about individuals who claim asylum after being charged with crimes, she was clear that if they are convicted of that offence, they will be ineligible because the eligibility requirements make them ineligible.

She also noted that those who receive custodial sentences tend to be removed, because they are in custody. Also, CBSA has historically prioritized people serving criminal sentences because they are, frankly, easy to find.

We further heard from representatives of the Refugee Centre, who told us that, in the first nine months of 2025, the acceptance rates for refugee claims reached 78%, of which less than 1% were fraudulent claims. This tells us that the initial decision-making is generally sound and that our system is working. Yes, it is overloaded, but it is working.

Everyone deserves to be and feel safe in their communities, and that is why Canada's government is taking real action to keep Canadians safe, not through slogans and divisive rhetoric but through comprehensive, evidence-based reforms. We have introduced several major bills: Bill C-2, the strong borders act; Bill C-12, the immigration system and borders act; and Bill C-14, the bail and sentencing reform act, which has introduced over 80 targeted criminal code reforms, many directly addressing extortion.

Bill C-14 would create a new reverse onus for individuals charged with violent extortion, making bail significantly harder to obtain. It would require sentences for extortion to be served consecutively to sentences for related offences like arson. It would prohibit weapons at bail for those accused of extortion and organized crime offences. It would strengthen bail conditions for organized crime-related extortion, including geographic restrictions.

The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police has endorsed Bill C-14, stating that it reflects their own recommendations. Police leaders called for broader reverse onus provisions and tougher penalties for organized crime, and Bill C-14 answers all of those calls. We have also made the largest single investment in Canadian border security, $1.3 billion. We are hiring 1,000 new CBSA officers and 1,000 new RCMP personnel. On top of all that, we have created a financial crimes agency to combat money laundering and organized crime.

What deeply concerns me about the motion before us is its intent. The Conservatives are not genuinely seeking to strengthen public safety; they are seeking to create division within Canadian society by suggesting that the federal Liberal government is making it easy for criminals to stay in Canada. This is absolutely false.

The member for Calgary Nose Hill proposed an amendment to Bill C-12 that she claims would have prevented non-citizens convicted of serious crimes from making asylum claims. However, in reality, our law already does this. Her amendment would have created more operational and administrative procedures and likely resulted in significant litigation, not greater safety.

While Conservatives rely on slogans and ideological proposals, many of which are imported from outside of Canada, our government is delivering thoughtful, targeted reforms that strengthen public safety, protect victims and ensure that our justice system responds to the realities Canadians face today. While Conservatives are holding important public safety bills hostage in committee, we are working across party lines to ensure that we are delivering for Canadians.

Instead of looking backwards with motions designed to divide Canadians, our government is looking ahead. The criminal justice reform agenda being implemented by the government is principled, responsible and will meaningfully address the public safety challenges that communities across Canada are facing today. The reforms contained in Bill C-2, Bill C-9, Bill C-12, Bill C-14 and Bill C-16 have been informed by significant engagement with stakeholders right across this country. The federal government is doing its part. We need the provinces to do their part and the cities to do their part.

In conclusion, I encourage all members to work collaboratively to improve our criminal justice system. Canadians expect no less. They expect us to be serious about public safety, not to play political games with their security.

The government opposes the motion before us because it is based on misinformation, would undermine Canada's sentencing principles, remove long-standing judicial discretion and offer no real solutions to the challenges we face. Instead, I urge all parties to support the passage of Bill C-12 and Bill C-14, legislation that is right before us. In doing so, we will make all Canadians safer.

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Conservative

Cheryl Gallant Conservative Algonquin—Renfrew—Pembroke, ON

Mr. Speaker, in 2023, a foreign national attempted to buy sex from an underage girl. However, when he got to the location, it was an undercover officer, who arrested him. When it came time to sentence this individual, he was given a lesser sentence so as not to affect his immigration status.

Does the member opposite not think that an individual who commits such serious offences should be denied Canadian citizenship?

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Mr. Speaker, we have a series of bills that are before the House that are going to make Canadians safer. I would ask the hon. member on the other side to consider passing those bills collectively. All of those bills would address all of the major issues that have been raised in the House and would ensure that Canadians are safer.

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Liberal

Kody Blois LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the hon. member for her remarks today. She is part of a group within the Liberal caucus that is focused on the questions of immigration, refugee status and the work the government has to do to both create a better system and make sure that Canada continues to have a pathway to compassionate admittance into the country.

Obviously, today we are talking about an opposition day motion. However, I would invite the member to share anything else that she believes is important vis-à-vis the government's next steps in relation to immigration writ large. I think she would have a lot to share with the House beyond the opposition day motion and I invite her to share that.

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Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Mr. Speaker, if we asked Canadians today, the vast majority of them would say they are concerned about public safety.

I am very proud of our government. In a very short period of time, we have introduced a whole series of measures and legislation taken directly from key stakeholders, victims groups, police associations, municipalities and provincial leaders to address the major safety issues that concern Canadians today. We have Bill C-9, Bill C-12, Bill C-16 and Bill C-14. All of this legislation collectively needs to pass through the House of Commons and be made into law so that it can protect Canadians.

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Bloc

Xavier Barsalou-Duval Bloc Pierre-Boucher—Les Patriotes—Verchères, QC

Mr. Speaker, this morning, I was surprised to see the official opposition's motion, because I think this is the first time in many years that we have had a Conservative opposition day about something other than oil or stopping the fight against climate change.

I would like to know whether my colleague opposite wants to congratulate the Conservatives for choosing to address another subject for once.