Mr. Speaker, I want to be perfectly clear. To date, $1.5 billion has been spent. This covers completion of the old age security transformation and initial development for employment insurance, and $6.6 billion is an upper ceiling for all the projects that this covers. This amount may never be spent.
It would have been cheaper if it had been undertaken between 2005 and 2015, when the Conservatives were in power. They knew that the tech was from 1966. My mother was only 10 years old. Let me be perfectly—