Mr. Speaker, I take issue with the question itself. The structure of the question seems like sophistry. What the member is saying is that because the transition will take time, there is no point in doing it step by step and we should abandon the attempt altogether and just drown ourselves in oil.
We have consistently acknowledged that this will take time. We have not said that all pipelines must be shut down. We have said, and this is consistent with the International Energy Agency's position, that we should not undertake new projects. We need to embark on a transition to secure the new energy that we need, taking a step-by-step approach.
What the Conservatives are saying is that since this cannot be done right away, there is no point in doing it at all, because people will suffer if the whole thing cannot be done right away. It is like a dog chasing its tail. It is not going to get very far. I think we need to take a step-by-step approach and act responsibly. We need policies that incentivize a transition. No one here in Parliament has ever said that we will suddenly stop needing oil and gas one day. That has never happened.