Order. Let me finish the ruling.
There is a standing order that says one cannot make a reference to the presence or lack of presence of a member in the House of Commons. That is not what the member was referring to, in my understanding. She was reflecting on members' indigenous ancestry. Since I, as Speaker, do not know whether members have ancestry, nor would I assume anything, I saw nothing in her statement that infringed on the rules. I do invite members to reflect on the Standing Orders and the fact that we should not do indirectly what we cannot do directly. We should always be careful to abide by the rules. I did not hear anything that violated the rules.
That being said, now I will invoke Standing Order 10, which says that members cannot debate with the Speaker on the ruling.
Resuming debate, the hon. member for Nanaimo—Ladysmith.