House of Commons Hansard #113 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was debt.

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Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives criticize the government's doubled deficit and reckless spending, arguing it drives food inflation and housing costs. They highlight that interest on debt now exceeds health transfers. Additionally, they attack taxes on jobs and raise concerns regarding failed reporting obligations on modern slavery and international trade.
The Liberals highlight Canada’s strong fiscal position and reduced deficit, citing the best debt-to-GDP ratio in the G7. They emphasize investments in skilled trades for youth, the groceries and essentials benefit, and housing infrastructure. They also address U.S. tariff threats, support the auto strategy, and commit to protecting private property rights.
The Bloc urges support for businesses hit by high U.S. tariffs, calling for non-partisan assistance. They also demand unconditional transfers for workforce training, arguing that federal spending violates Quebec’s exclusive jurisdiction.
The NDP opposes ending preferential contracting for the Commissionaires, arguing that it threatens stable employment for veterans.

Petitions

Weights and Measures Act Second reading of Bill S-3. The bill seeks to [modernize trade laws] by updating regulations for digital and electric technologies. While generally supported, opposition members raised concerns regarding potential [bureaucratic overreach] and a lack of accountability. Specifically, Bloc and Conservative MPs highlighted the need for a fair [appeal process] for businesses after sharing anecdotes about negative experiences with Measurement Canada inspectors. It is now headed to committee for study. 10100 words, 1 hour.

Preventing Coercion of Persons Not Seeking Medical Assistance in Dying Act Second reading of Bill C-260. The bill, Bill C-260, proposes amending the Criminal Code to prohibit government employees from initiating discussions about medical assistance in dying (MAID) with individuals who have not requested information. Proponents argue this prevents the coercion of vulnerable citizens and veterans. Opponents, including the Liberal party, contend the legislation lacks an evidentiary basis, arguing that existing safeguards and training already address these concerns. 7900 words, 1 hour.

Adjournment Debates

Interim federal health program Dan Mazier questions the equity of providing taxpayer-funded health benefits to rejected asylum claimants. Maggie Chi defends the Interim Federal Health Program as a necessary, managed public health bridge that does not prioritize migrants over Canadians, noting that recent government reforms are reducing system pressures and program costs.
Gas tax relief and affordability Helena Konanz argues the government's temporary gas tax relief ignores the long-term needs of rural residents and advocates for more extended relief. Ryan Turnbull defends the government's measures, citing global instability as a primary cost driver, and criticizes Conservatives for voting against broader affordability programs like school food funding.
National pharmacare program rollout Gord Johns accuses the government of failing to implement universal pharmacare, noting that most provinces lack access, leaving coverage dependent on postal codes. Maggie Chi defends the government’s commitment to existing agreements while emphasizing the need to be mindful of broader fiscal and logistical challenges when negotiating with provinces.
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TaxationAdjournment Proceedings

6:35 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise tonight to address the taxes that residents in my community pay every single day, specifically gas taxes.

I have requested this opportunity to speak in light of the Minister of Veteran Affairs' recent response to my question on April 14. Her response to my question on these gas taxes was as follows:

British Columbians are happy to hear that...we are making a reduction in fuel costs from now until Labour Day. British Columbians are going to use that to go and enjoy our country as they can this summer. Maybe they will also combine that with the Canada Strong pass as they go and explore this wonderful country.

The Liberal minister seems to be suggesting that the purpose of gas tax relief is to encourage more people to take a vacation or to go camping. As fellow British Columbians, she and I agree that our beautiful province certainly is a place families should explore, but it is not the main reason residents in my communities fill up their cars, trucks, vans or SUVs.

A family in Hedley does it to get to the grocery store or a hockey practice. A senior in Rock Creek fills up to attend medical appointments or check in with friends. A forestry worker in Christina Lake needs fuel to get to work and then to get home safely.

Driving is a fact of life for tens of thousands of residents in my community. That is not to mention the hauling, the transporting or the towing that empties our tanks even faster. Subways, electric buses and public bicycles, which I often hear Liberals talk about, are not available in the communities I serve. A job in the forestry, mining or agriculture sector does not just happen right down the street. It takes a lot of gas to get rural school buses going or to get essentials to rural supermarkets, not just in the spring or summer, but in the autumn and winter. That is why it is now costing a lot more.

Higher gas prices truly punish rural communities. That is why Conservatives are offering a full-year gas tax relief plan with zero federal tax on gas and diesel for the rest of 2026, paid for by ending Liberal spending on the gun buyback program, consulting fees and wasteful foreign aid. Our plan would eliminate the fuel excise tax, 10¢ a litre; the clean fuel standard, seven cents; and GST, eight cents, to save every driver 25¢ a litre. This would not just be savings at the gas station as people would also save when they buy an item that has to be shipped to our shelves, where higher transport costs mean bigger receipts.

The Liberal plan offers no excise tax on gas until Labour Day. Presumably, that is when Canadians will stop camping. Even now, with the Liberal plan in effect, Castanet reports that “prices at the pumps soared to their highest levels in years” today in the Okanagan, rising roughly 30¢ a litre from just the night earlier. In my home community of Penticton, every gas station today has it above $1.90 a litre.

My question to the government is as follows: Given these sudden and shocking increases and the instability in the Middle East, why does the member think Canadians will not need gas tax relief past Labour Day?

TaxationAdjournment Proceedings

6:40 p.m.

Whitby Ontario

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance and National Revenue and to the Secretary of State (Canada Revenue Agency and Financial Institutions)

Mr. Speaker, it is shocking to me to hear the hon. member talk as if somehow she believes we operate in a vacuum and apart from global forces beyond the government's control. Certainly, we do not control oil price shocks that are the direct result of the Strait of Hormuz being blocked. We did not start the war in Iran. It is not a conflict, unfortunately, that we can stop or control.

What we have done, and the members opposite know this very well, is suspend the excise tax on fuel. We cut the consumer carbon tax. Those combined are 28¢ per litre. That is saving families money.

What is concerning to me is that Conservatives do not stand up to support the very measures that we put in place to help families out with the cost of living challenges that the member rightly points out. It is not as if the government is somehow blind to the fact that Canadians are experiencing challenges due to shocks in the economy and that the prices of almost all goods have been rising for quite some time, since the aftershocks of the global pandemic. There has been one shock after another.

Again, we have offered the groceries and essentials benefit, which the members opposite did not support. They do not seem to want to put more money back in people's pockets. We offered a middle-class tax cut for 22 million Canadians. We also offered the Conservatives the opportunity, multiple times in the House, to support a national school food program, which feeds 400,000 kids per year. When the member opposite is talking about food prices and is concerned about the cost of living, she has actually chosen not to support feeding 400,000 kids and not to take those kids out of food bank lineups. What is strange to me is that the hon. member can stand in the House and lecture Liberals. It seems a little bit hypocritical for the hon. member to say that she cares about people's expenses and their cost of living challenges when she would not take 400,000 kids out of poverty.

We offered a package of supports with the groceries and essentials benefit—

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An hon. member

You do realize how ridiculous you sound.

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Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Mr. Speaker, I do not mind the crosstalk. It actually encourages me quite a bit to keep telling the truth in the House. I know it is hard for the Conservatives to accept the truth sometimes.

We announced a package of supports, including the groceries and essentials benefit—

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

I am going to ask the member for Riding Mountain and the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Health to please cut the crosstalk.

I will let the hon. parliamentary secretary conclude.

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6:40 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Mr. Speaker, the groceries and essentials benefit that we announced will put almost $1,900 into families' pockets this year, which is significant support. I would offer that this is significant direct support to 12 million Canadians. We also offered immediate expensing for greenhouses and an injection of funds to the local food infrastructure fund, as well as $500 million more in support through the strategic response fund geared toward supply chains in Canada.

We are also developing a food security strategy. I have long advocated for the fact that the Government of Canada needs to have not only a national food policy, which we developed back in 2018, but an actual food security strategy for the country. It is great to see us having made that commitment. Consultations are under way. I know that this plan will provide benefits to Canadians in the future, so that is exciting.

With all that said, we are also doing it well, managing the resources of the country in a responsible way. We have seen that the deficit, just in the spring economic update, is down by $11 billion. That is significant. We have brought operational spending back into check, with reducing day-to-day operational spending over the time horizon.

TaxationAdjournment Proceedings

6:45 p.m.

Conservative

Helena Konanz Conservative Similkameen—South Okanagan—West Kootenay, BC

Mr. Speaker, we agree that recent gas price hikes were helped by the war in Iran, but will that be over by Labour Day, as the Liberals' policy suggests? Even if the U.S. and Iran ended the war tomorrow, the Pentagon has said it would take up to six months to fully clear sea mines from the Strait of Hormuz to restore shipping. That is not to mention the damage to oil and gas infrastructure hammered by missile attacks.

Conservatives believe it is more prudent to provide Canadians with higher, longer-lasting relief at the pump, given the uncertainty abroad. Nations like Australia, Spain and Ireland all cut their taxes more than Canada has in response. On average, Americans currently pay less at the pump.

Will the government take note of our Conservative plan and other plans abroad and cut the tax on gas for longer than just the summer?

TaxationAdjournment Proceedings

6:45 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is great to have the member ask the question again. What I have pointed out in my response is that, every time the Conservatives say they want to do more for Canadians, we actually propose to do more, and they vote against it, so I do not know how to take the comments of the member opposite in the House at face value.

We offer opportunities, such as the groceries and essentials benefit, the national school food program and the Canada child benefit. There are so many supports the government has stepped up with. One that I am particularly fond of is the reductions in the cost of child care for families, which is saving families in my riding at least $1,200 a month. That is significant support, and the Conservatives voted against that.

Here we are. We are at a moment where we have suspended the excise tax on fuel temporarily. We will evaluate at the end of Labour Day—

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6:45 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

The hon. member for Courtenay—Alberni.

PharmacareAdjournment Proceedings

April 29th, 2026 / 6:45 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Mr. Speaker, just like last week, and just like the week before, I am here tonight to drag the government in here to hold it to account and to ensure that it protects and enhances our public health care system and follows through with its promises. I will just serve notice that I will be dragging the government back in here again next week if it does not take some action.

No one in Canada, not our kids, parents or grandparents, should have to worry about the cost of medication they need to stay healthy, but that is exactly what is happening today. Canadians were promised the beginning of a national pharmacare program. We actually voted on it. They were promised a single-payer system that serves people, not a patchwork system that leaves millions behind.

The promise was that we were going to start with universal free access to diabetes medicine and birth control. It was highly celebrated by the Liberals. Right now, only three provinces and one territory are covered. That is about 17% of Canadians. More than four out of five Canadians cannot access the federal pharmacare plan today. This means access to life-saving diabetes medicine or birth control coverage depends on where someone lives. It depends on their postal code.

While I hate to do this, I must mention that this inaction comes while many Liberal MPs are bragging about a national pharmacare program that their own constituents cannot even access. In Newfoundland and Labrador, for example, the provincial health minister said that the federal Liberal government has closed the door on negotiations. Meanwhile, the Liberal MP for Labrador defends pharmacare as putting money back in Canadians' pockets. On Prince Edward Island, the federal government has moved slowly, and its provincial health minister says that the federal government has told them that pharmacare funds will expire in 2029 and will not be renewed.

Meanwhile, the member for Cardigan claimed that pharmacare is a key program for all Canadians. Nova Scotia is ready to negotiate, but it is still waiting for an invitation. Meanwhile, the member for Cumberland—Colchester described pharmacare as an essential service that Liberals will continue to protect. Their premier says he cannot even get a meeting to negotiate a deal.

These provinces want in. They are ready to work, but they are being shut out while these Liberals pat themselves on the back. That is not nation building. The Prime Minister was just on CBC two days ago touting his commitment to pharmacare. Even today in question period, he rightly criticised the Conservatives for voting against pharmacare, but only three provinces and one territory actually have an agreement.

Yesterday we saw that, in the spring economic update, the word pharmacare is mentioned only once. It signals that the Liberals are walking away from their commitment to the national pharmacare plan they ran on during the last election. This has real consequences. People are skipping prescriptions. They are cutting pills in half. They are choosing between paying rent and filling a prescription. In a country as wealthy as Canada, this should never happen. This is not what Canadians were promised, like I said in the last election.

New Democrats in the House and across Canada are fighting to ensure Canadians can access the medicine they need while the Liberals continue to delay and side with powerful industry interests. In B.C., pharmacare coverage began on March 1 because the B.C. NDP government pushed for it and the provincial health minister Josie Osborne acted quickly. She signed a deal. Families in B.C. are getting that relief, but families in the rest of the country are still waiting. They are waiting because the federal government is refusing to negotiate.

A truly national pharmacare program would guarantee the security Canadians need at a time of economic uncertainty. If the Liberals fail to meet their commitment, they are going to have to explain to Canadians why they are breaking yet another promise.

The question is simple: Will the government reopen negotiations with provinces like Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia? Will it commit to expanding pharmacare to every province and territory that wants in, or will it continue down this path where access depends on one's postal code or where one lives? Canadians deserve better than this patchwork.

PharmacareAdjournment Proceedings

6:50 p.m.

Don Valley North Ontario

Liberal

Maggie Chi LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Health

Mr. Speaker, my friend the member for Courtenay—Alberni has long been a strong advocate for better health outcomes in his community and across Canada, and I am honoured and fortunate to work with him in the House for the betterment of Canadian health outcomes.

Those outcomes are possible thanks to our investments in health care, just as yesterday's spring economic statement was our government's next step in our plan to build a stronger, more independent and resilient Canada. We know that we are only stronger and more resilient if we have healthy Canadians, which is something I think everybody here agrees on. That is why our government came to office with the pledge to protect existing pharmacare agreements. We know the role that they play in keeping Canadians healthy.

In fact, starting last month, my colleague's constituents in British Columbia are seeing the effects of their province's pharmacare agreements first-hand, since it came into effect on March 1. Thanks to this agreement, more Canadians have free and low-cost access to a range of contraceptives; Canadians living with diabetes can get essential, life-saving drugs for their condition; and Canadians are keeping more money in their pockets while improving their health outcomes.

I know the member opposite would like us to go full speed ahead, but recent years have taught us that we need to be mindful of the broader context, both within Canada and beyond our borders, as we make decisions and as we consider the changing fiscal environment, how policy decisions in other countries impact our pharmaceutical supply and what we hear from our provincial and territorial partners. All of these things matter.

For our part, our government will continue to control what we can. That means working closely with our health partners, including provinces, territories and indigenous people, to see how we can help them deliver health care for all Canadians. As we have always said, we cannot build Canada strong without healthy Canadians.

PharmacareAdjournment Proceedings

6:50 p.m.

NDP

Gord Johns NDP Courtenay—Alberni, BC

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the member for coming. I know it is inconvenient, but I will continue to drag her and her government here to debate this issue, because what we heard does not match the reality that Canadians are facing.

It is great to hear that British Columbians are getting access to pharmacare. The government says pharmacare is moving ahead, but only four out of five Canadians are accessing it. That is not progress; that is exclusion.

The Liberals say it takes time, but provinces like Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia are ready now, and the federal government is refusing to negotiate. We just heard the parliamentary secretary say it is too expensive, but pharmacare actually saves money for families and for provinces. The real cost is forcing Canadians to go without the medicine they need.

Let us be clear. Mentioning pharmacare once in a major economic update is not a plan. It is a signal that the government is walking away from its promise, and it is not nation building. Canadians were told that this would be a national program, not a patchwork or something determined by postal code. No one in this country should have to choose between paying rent and filling a prescription.

The question remains. When will the government stop delaying, start negotiating and deliver pharmacare for all Canadians?

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6:50 p.m.

Liberal

Maggie Chi Liberal Don Valley North, ON

Mr. Speaker, I want to make it very clear that it is never an inconvenience but always an honour to come to the House and debate important issues. I am never dragged here, because it is also my honour to debate important issues and work on behalf of all Canadians for the betterment of their health with the member opposite.

Our government remains committed to building Canada strong by investing in healthy Canadians. That means protecting pharmacare agreements that provide access to contraception and vital medications while also keeping more money in the pockets of Canadians.

We will continue to work with our partners on all sides, including the member opposite, to build a health care system that meets the needs of Canadians.

PharmacareAdjournment Proceedings

6:55 p.m.

The Assistant Deputy Speaker John Nater

The motion that the House do now adjourn is deemed to have been adopted. Accordingly, the House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 10 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).

(The House adjourned at 6:55 p.m.)