House of Commons Hansard #143 of the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament's site.) The word of the day was c-39.

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Petitions

Building Canada Strong Act Second reading of Bill C-39. The bill, titled the Building Canada Strong Act, proposes to modernize federal permitting and environmental reviews by establishing a one-year decision timeline for major projects. The government argues these measures will streamline supply chains, modernize port governance, and improve labour relations to boost competitiveness. Conversely, opposition parties criticize the legislation, with Conservatives arguing it adds unnecessary bureaucracy and Bloc Québécois members warning it risks circumventing environmental laws and threatening worker protections. 49100 words, 6 hours in 2 segments: 1 2.

Statements by Members

Question Period

The Conservatives demand relief for a diesel price crisis, proposing a plan to eliminate fuel taxes and accelerate refining investment. They highlight stories of struggling families unable to afford rent and groceries due to inflation. Additionally, they criticize soft-on-crime policies and loose bail laws that they claim have led to unchecked crime.
The Liberals prioritize affordability through the fuel excise tax suspension, the national school food program, and the groceries and essentials benefit. They champion streamlining infrastructure via the Building Canada Strong Act and highlight criminal justice reforms. Furthermore, they pledge to advance reconciliation by investing in education to confront residential school denialism.
The Bloc denounces Bill C-39, arguing it infringes on Quebec's jurisdiction and suspends environmental laws for oil interests. They demand protections for provincial authority and condemn the indefinite circumvention of the rule of law.
The NDP opposes privatizing airports and ports and demands that the government criminalize residential school denialism.

Protecting Young Persons from Exposure to Pornography Act Second reading of Bill S-209. The bill, S-209, seeks to restrict young persons’ online access to pornography via commercial age verification. Supporters argue it provides a vital tool for protecting children online. While Liberals support the objectives of Bill S-209, they contend that government initiatives like Bill C-34 offer a more effective way to address digital safety, sparking debate regarding the best legislative path. 7500 words, 1 hour.

Adjournment Debates

Affordability for Canadian seniors Warren Steinley highlights a constituent's struggle with inflation and ineligibility for government dental programs, arguing that Liberals fail to support seniors. Ryan Turnbull defends the government's record, citing the GST rebate, tax cuts, and other social programs, while criticizing Steinley for voting against these affordability measures.
Severance for Infoway ceo Dan Mazier questions whether the health minister's representative on the Canada Health Infoway board voted to approve a massive severance package for the former CEO following the PrescribeIT failure. Ryan Turnbull declines to confirm, instead citing an ongoing third-party review of the organization's governance and compensation practices.
Maritime Launch Services lease Michael Cooper accuses the Liberal government of corruption, alleging they bailed out a struggling company, Maritime Launch Services, through a backdated lease that facilitated insider profiteering. Sherry Romanado defends the agreement as a strategic necessity to establish sovereign space launch capability, adhering to all procurement and ethical standards.
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Auditor General Of CanadaRoutine Proceedings

10 a.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

It is my duty to lay before the House, pursuant to subsection 94(2) of the Access to Information Act and subsection 72(2) of the Privacy Act, the reports of the Auditor General of Canada on the administration of these acts for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2026. Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h), these reports are deemed to have been permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics.

Procedure and House AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10 a.m.

Liberal

Chris Bittle Liberal St. Catharines, ON

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, I have the honour to present, in both official languages, the 33rd report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs regarding membership of committees of the House.

If the House gives its consent, I move that the 33rd report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs presented in the House earlier this day be concurred in.

Procedure and House AffairsCommittees of the HouseRoutine Proceedings

10 a.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

All those opposed to the hon. member's moving the motion will please say nay.

There being no dissenting voice, it is agreed.

The House has heard the terms of the motion. All those opposed to the motion will please say nay.

(Motion agreed to)

Residential SchoolsPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10 a.m.

NDP

Leah Gazan NDP Winnipeg Centre, MB

Mr. Speaker, I rise very proudly today to present a petition, which is critical in upholding the ongoing project of reconciliation, put forward by residential school survivors, many of whom are joining us in Ottawa today. They are very concerned that the federal government is not upholding its duty of care for survivors, families and communities on the path of reconciliation. I would like to thank the survivors, along with the petition's initiator, Eva Wilson-Fontaine, who helped get so many signatures.

This petition calls on the Government of Canada to renew the residential schools missing children community support fund, which the government is currently planning to phase out this year. It also urges the government to advance survivor supports, which are the healing and cultural services we know are vital to address the trauma endured during the genocidal period perpetrated in the Indian residential schools. The petitioners note that the Truth and Reconciliation Commission calls to action 72 through 76, on missing children and burial records, and calls to action 21 and 22, on indigenous healing, remain unfulfilled.

As we approach the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation, it is critical that the Government of Canada fulfill its moral and legal obligations to uphold the well-being of indigenous peoples and protect the truth of the residential school system that is being shared by survivors against denialist hate. From the bottom of my heart, I thank the petitioners, including those who have travelled to be with us today.

There is no reconciliation without truth. There is no reconciliation if we do not protect and honour survivors.

Immigration and CitizenshipPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to present a petition on behalf of Canadians calling on the government to address IRCC processing backlogs. Petitioners note that prolonged delays leave applicants, employers and communities in uncertainty. They call for action to end the dysfunction that wastes government resources and to restore confidence in the immigration system.

Medical Assistance in DyingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:05 a.m.

Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Mr. Speaker, I have another petition in support of Bill C-218, the right to recover act. Petitioners are concerned with the planned expansion of medical assistance in dying to those whose sole underlying medical condition is mental illness. They note that mental illness can be treatable, that recovery is possible and that many Canadians still face barriers to accessing timely mental health care. Petitioners are concerned that vulnerable Canadians could seek MAID before receiving the treatment they so badly need. They therefore call on the government to pass Bill C-218 and permanently exclude mental illness alone for MAID eligibility.

Social MediaPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Jacques Ramsay Liberal La Prairie—Atateken, QC

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to present a petition signed by people from La Prairie—Atateken and across the country who are concerned about the impact that social media is having on our children.

This petition is part of a national initiative, AgeStandard, that has collected over 17,600 signatures online from parents, some of whom work in the tech industry themselves. This petition reminds us of the documented effects that social media is having on the mental health of our children, whose rates of anxiety and depression have doubled since the creation of these platforms.

I would like to remind the House that these platforms filter and tailor their content using algorithmic recommendations and promote violent and sensationalistic content. Users' feeds are constantly being adjusted based on their interactions and set to autoplay to encourage endless scrolling.

The petition therefore calls on the government to pass legislation that would prevent children under the age of 16 from creating social media accounts. The petitioners want users to have to do more than simply check a box. They want certified third parties that are independent from the platforms to be responsible for verifying users' age based on a common technical standard that respects privacy.

In the spring, our government introduced its own response to this issue. However, I believe that AgeStandard's proposal is in keeping with that discussion and should inform our debates on Bill C-34.

Public SafetyPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Sukhman Gill Conservative Abbotsford—South Langley, BC

Mr. Speaker, I am honoured to be back for the fall session representing the great community of Abbotsford—South Langley, but today I come with many concerns.

I present eight petitions, including hundreds of signatures, on behalf of concerned Canadians regarding the rise in organized crime, extortion, shootings and violence in the Lower Mainland and across the nation. These petitions call on the Government of Canada to reinforce both public reporting and coordination between all levels of government so that Canadians can have the confidence that actions are being taken to combat violence and organized crime.

Trans-Canada HighwayPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Gaétan Malette Conservative Kapuskasing—Timmins—Mushkegowuk, ON

Mr. Speaker, I am proud to rise to present petitions on behalf of the residents of Kirkland Lake, Ontario, who have added their voices to this growing call for action.

Across northern Ontario, communities are asking the federal government to recognize the need to improve the Trans-Canada Highway 11 by designating it as a project of national interest. The people of Kirkland Lake are making it clear that northern Ontario deserves safer roads and stronger infrastructure.

People are working together. The Province of Ontario is taking steps to improve truck driver training and highway safety. Now we need all levels of government to sit together at the table.

Bilingualism in the Canadian ForcesPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Pierre Paul-Hus Conservative Charlesbourg—Haute-Saint-Charles, QC

Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to rise in the House today to table a petition on behalf of Éric Sauvé. It has been signed by 3,451 Canadians from across the country. They are calling on the Minister of National Defence to withdraw a directive that is undermining bilingualism in the Canadian Forces, particularly for francophones.

I am tabling this petition and await the minister's response.

Canada Student GrantPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Brad Vis Conservative Mission—Matsqui—Abbotsford, BC

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to present a petition concerning Canada student grant eligibility for registered massage therapy students in British Columbia.

The petitioners are concerned that restricting eligibility would make it more difficult for students to access training for an in-demand health care profession. At a time when British Columbians need more RMTs, the petitioners do not want new financial barriers to be put in the way of students pursuing this regulated health care profession.

The petitioners are calling on the government to maintain Canada student grant eligibility for provincially regulated RMT programs in British Columbia.

Over-the-Horizon Radar SystemPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Terry Dowdall Conservative Simcoe—Grey, ON

Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to rise once again to present another petition. Members are probably hearing this one over and over again. The petition is from the great people of Simcoe—Grey.

The petitioners are opposed to the over-the-horizon radar system. They are opposed not the actual system itself, but the location. The Department of National Defence purchased 700 acres, but it may need another 2,600 to 3,000 acres, which would be expropriated. The individuals in the riding are extremely concerned, and they do not think the government has exhausted every opportunity at other locations for this particular over-the-horizon radar system. As well, it is right beside the Minesing Wetlands. It is prime farm agriculture land, and it would totally change the face of Clearview Township as it stands today.

The petitioners are asking the government to stop the building of the over-the-horizon radar site on the property that was already purchased, which was roughly 700 acres from one farmer, and prevent the future acquisition of prime farmland and the building of the over-the-horizon radar system in the prime farmland of Clearview Township.

There is always a struggle between food security and national security. However, we can never forget how important it is, and we will never get this farmland back.

Medical Assistance in DyingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Ted Falk Conservative Provencher, MB

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to present a petition from dozens of Canadians in support of Bill C-218, which is commonly referred to as the right to recover act.

The petitioners recognize that the Canadian government intends to expand medical assistance in dying to individuals whose sole medical condition is mental illness. They also recognize that mental illness is treatable and curable. The experts have acknowledged that there is no way to determine when mental illness is irremediable.

The petitioners are asking the government to not proceed with its intention to make mental illness a sole underlying condition for the expansion of MAID. They would like all parliamentarians to support Bill C-218, which would permanently remove that possibility from being considered.

Immigration and CitizenshipPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Liberal

Bardish Chagger Liberal Waterloo, ON

Mr. Speaker, petition e-7341 was initiated by a constituent in the riding of Waterloo. With almost 45 online signatures, the petitioners are raising concerns regarding the prolonged security screen delays of applicants residing in Canada with valid immigration status.

I have spoken with many of these constituents and have heard a range of perspectives. Constituents agree that we cannot compromise the security and safety of Canadians, which is why the petitioners are asking the House of Commons to request the Standing Committee on Public Safety and National Security to study immigration security screening delays to review whether existing resources are sufficient, examine the accountability mechanisms for timely security screenings, evaluate the use of a risk-based triage system and consider independent oversight or audits from officers who report Parliament.

The petitioners have shared with numerous MPs their personal experiences, and they are reiterating those through my presenting this petition on their behalf.

Official ResidencesPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Green

Elizabeth May Green Saanich—Gulf Islands, BC

Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to rise today in the House to present an e-petition that was originated by someone concerned that Canada is the only G7 country that provides a fully funded home for the leader of the official opposition. I am presenting this, obviously, without any thought to any particular person.

Given the rules around petitions, I do not take a position on the petition. I would just say that this e-petition has attracted over 20,000 signatures of Canadians who would like the House to examine whether we should continue to provide a fully funded home for the leader of the official opposition.

Medical Assistance in DyingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:10 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Speaker, I will begin by presenting a number of petitions on the real horror that the so-called medical assistance in dying regime in this country has become. We have seen how this is really a matter of national shame. In debates in parliaments around the world, Canada has been identified as a cautionary tale of what can happen when things go wrong in the health care system as a result of an out-of-control, poorly managed and poorly regulated system of so-called medically facilitated death.

I am thinking in the context of this petition on MAID coercion, particularly the story of Brigitte Stegemann, an 83-year-old woman who was killed under very suspicious circumstances. The Belleville police are investigating. This story has not been covered in any mainstream media in Canada. People have to go to British newspapers to read about it. This is the horror that the system has become, and it is not being discussed nearly enough in this country, but I am pleased to be able to bring the voice of petitioners to the House on this issue through a number of petitions that draw attention to this problem.

The first petition highlights, in particular, the situation of the disability community in this country and how choosing so-called MAID due to a lack of available services or treatments is not a real choice, that allowing facilitated death for those with disabilities or chronic illnesses who are not dying devalues their lives and tacitly endorses the notion that life with disability is optional. Petitioners call on the government to make incremental reforms to this regime to protect all Canadians whose natural death is not reasonably foreseeable by prohibiting medical assistance in dying for those whose prognosis for a natural death is more than six months.

We have also, incredibly, heard proposals even in the House to extend facilitated death to children. I have a second petition that calls on the government to not ever legalize the killing of children within our medical system.

There was a proposal made by Louis Roy of the Quebec College of Physicians, incredibly, to legalize the killing of infants with so-called severe deformities and very serious syndromes. With these kinds of proposals, it is no wonder that the British Parliament, on all sides, has called Canada a cautionary tale—

Medical Assistance in DyingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

I would remind the hon. member that the object is to summarize petitions succinctly.

Medical Assistance in DyingPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Speaker, to summarize, this petition calls on the Government of Canada to block any attempt to allow the killing of children.

Falun GongPetitionsRoutine Proceedings

September 24th, 2026 / 10:15 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Speaker, the next petition I am tabling highlights the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners in the People's Republic of China at the hands of the CCP. It notes that the CCP has been engaged in a multidecades' long campaign to promote the eradication of this peaceful spiritual movement, a movement that is simply focused on truthfulness, compassion and forbearance.

At a time of so-called strategic partnership between Canada and the government of China, petitioners want to see the government publicly call on the Chinese regime to end its persecution of Falun Gong practitioners, to impose sanctions on and pursue accountability for CCP officials and proxies responsible for these human rights violations, and to take stronger measures to protect the community from foreign interference.

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

Winnipeg North Manitoba

Liberal

Kevin Lamoureux LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons

Mr. Speaker, I would ask that all questions be allowed to stand at this time.

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

The Speaker Francis Scarpaleggia

Is it agreed?

Questions on the Order PaperRoutine Proceedings

10:15 a.m.

Some hon. members

Agreed.

The House resumed from September 23 consideration of the motion that Bill C-39, An Act respecting certain measures to strengthen the economy, be read the second time and referred to a committee.

Bill C-39 Building Canada Strong ActGovernment Orders

10:15 a.m.

Kings—Hants Nova Scotia

Liberal

Kody Blois LiberalParliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister

Mr. Speaker, it is great to be back. I hope you had a great summer with your constituents in the Montreal area. I had the opportunity to engage with the people I have the privilege of representing, and it is great to bring their voices to Parliament. I hope all of my colleagues had an opportunity to do the same throughout the summer months.

I will be splitting my time this morning with the hon. member for Davenport.

Today, we are here to talk about the building Canada strong act, but I would be remiss if I did not take 30 seconds, given the fact that I was in my constituency this summer, to recognize some tremendous young athletes from my community. I am a former fast pitch softball player. I do not know if any members in the House have played fast pitch softball. It is a sport played mostly in smaller and rural communities across the country.

I want to put into the Hansard that Nova Scotia had four medals on the men's side in four different categories. At the under-17 level, the Brookfield Elks, with a number of athletes from my riding, won the Canadian championship. At the under-20 level, the Brookfield Elks won a bronze medal. At the under-23 level, the Nova Scotia team, again, composed of many athletes from Kings—Hants, won a silver medal, and at the top level of senior men's softball, East Hants won a bronze medal. I want to make sure that is on the record. We are proud of our athletes and certainly proud of the work they are doing at the national level.

On to more important things, we were elected as a government to focus on building a more resilient economy. We know there are headwinds and challenges globally. We are facing tariffs from the U.S. administration, which is changing its trade policy, but the focus of the Prime Minister and the government has been to focus on controlling what we can control as a country. The Prime Minister and the Minister of Transport have made very clear that the building Canada strong act is the most important piece of economic legislation the government has introduced to date to really focus on driving projects that matter in the national interest of the country, such as the modernization of key trade corridors, including ports, across this country, and to also look at our supply chains and the way our labour context works in this country.

Generally, collective bargaining has worked very well, but in some key strategic areas, we want to ensure there are additional measures and initiatives that can ensure that both the employer and the union representing workers can get to a deal that is fair for parties. We feel it is incumbent on the government to actually establish the initiatives and supports to help make that happen. Those are the three pillars of this very important piece of legislation.

I will take us through why that matters, and I am going to start on the regulatory permitting piece. Many members of the House would agree with me that Canada has what the world needs. We are an agricultural superpower in our ability to help feed the world. We have a major potash industry that is, in fact, the largest in the world. It is global in nature. We need to get that supply to the world. We have the energy the world needs. We have the ability to fuel the world. Again, whether that is in pipeline access or the ability to get energy to world markets, we have to have the supply chain to make that happen. We have to be willing, particularly at this moment when Canada is being called upon by countries around the world, to be even more of a secure energy supplier. We have to work on the major projects that help drive our economy forward.

We can talk about critical minerals, whether from the perspective of a military application or of clean energy. As one of the younger members of the House, I think about the future that I would like to leave for my future family, our constituents and people around the world. Critical minerals are going to be a really important part to our clean energy future. However, Canada has an outsized role globally to make sure those critical minerals are available to our allies and that we have alternative supply chains. That requires us, as parliamentarians, and certainly as a government, to make sure the regulatory conditions are in place so we can drive that process forward. What the government is proposing is essentially one window, one regulator and a one-year review once the proponent has submitted all the necessary information to the federal regulator.

Members of Parliament will remember that our government introduced Bill C-5 for this type of principle on major national projects. There have been 17 major projects that have been referred to the MPO. While I am on my feet, I would like to recognize the work of Dawn Farrell, someone who has great experience in the private sector and who is doing very important work to lead that agency and help ensure that we can advance projects that are in the national interest. Some members of Parliament have rightly asked if that is a good principle for major national projects. They have asked about how we take those principles and how we could ensure that perhaps mid-sized projects and projects of more local or regional interest could also have the same principles applied regarding the rigour in which we are trying to move processes forward quickly without shortcuts.

I think it is important for Canadians at home to understand the values that underpin not only how we want to ensure environmental safety and participation with indigenous groups in this country, but also the desire to make sure we can create certainty for businesses to invest in this country.

We are trying to reconcile all that and to do so on a more expedited timeline, and that is exactly what we are proposing today. What that looks like is that as opposed to having multiple line departments, such as Transport Canada, the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, perhaps ECCC or, of course, indigenous engagement through Crown-Indigenous Relations, we should find a way to have it under one federal project review. While there could be a multitude of federal departments that would perhaps under current legislation have a role and responsibility, and we do not want to take away that expertise or that understanding of why those elements are important for projects, we have to be able to find the way to make it under one federal project review, not multiple ones, which is just challenging for the proponents trying to advance them.

It is also challenging for indigenous communities. I have the privilege of representing three of them. One piece of feedback I have had in the seven years I have been involved in Parliament is that if we have ongoing consultation through multiple line departments, this does create a capacity challenge to ensure that indigenous communities are actively participating and have the resources to make sure they can share their perspective, as per our constitutional requirements in this country.

Therefore, one thing this legislation proposes is a Crown consultation hub. This is the idea that in consultation, the multitude of federal departments that may have a say on a federal permitting decision could actually go through one body to engage with the nation in question to be able to provide the multitude of different perspectives we may need, as opposed to a series, a multitude, of departments playing that out over time. This is what we would, I guess, refer to as common sense. We think this is something that would reconcile the interests of ensuring that indigenous communities are engaged and we are meeting our constitutional requirements, with, at the same time, providing the proponent and a federal regulator with the ability to make that happen.

Instead of a multitude of departments, it would be the Canada Energy Regulator, the Canada Nuclear Safety Commission or the Impact Assessment Agency. One of those three agencies would have the purview to make all the federal decisions, with engagement from federal departments, with the goal of having a one-year decision once all applicable information is submitted. That is incumbent. We as parliamentarians across the House, I hope, can recognize that is important. It is something we have to be able to push forward.

On supply chain certainty, we have heard, and I have heard, commentary outside the House that the bill is trying to limit the ability to strike in this country. Let me say that this is simply not the case. What the bill is proposing is to put additional measures in terms of mediation support, such as a special mediator when there are complex cases between an employer and labour.

I go back to the point I made, which is that we have what the world needs, we have an obligation and we are in a critical moment for this country. We as a government feel it is absolutely incumbent to ensure that we are putting all the resources possible to be able to get to a resolution between the employer and the union. We understand the importance of labour in this country.

At the same time, we are putting critical provisions around the utilization of section 107, which is held by the Minister of Jobs. We feel that is an appropriate balance to make sure we are protecting the constitutional rights of workers and at the same time trying to ensure we are putting the resources to get the best deal at the table.

When we look at the legislation and the proposals from the government, we see there is actually a proposal to put 100 additional resources, this being full-time equivalents, to the Canadian Industrial Review Board. Again, this is a mechanism where, if parties get to an impasse, we could be trying to provide assistance to ensure that there is good-faith bargaining and that we could get to an outcome that matters for employers and also matters, most importantly, for the workers and the people who drive our economy across this country.

There is a lot in the bill, and I wish I had more than 10 minutes, but last is a modernization around port governance. Ports play an extremely important role in our country, and the provisions in the bill would allow for additional discretion for port boards in their capacity to make regulatory decisions, which we think is streamlined and the right way to go.

At the end of the day, the bill is about building Canada. I look forward to taking questions from my colleagues.

Bill C-39 Building Canada Strong ActGovernment Orders

10:25 a.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Mr. Speaker, this is an important debate. Members are studying a very lengthy piece of legislation.

I want to ask the member about the messages the government is sending now, relative to messages the government has sent in the past. Under the Liberal government, there was the passage of Bill C-69 and C-48, which are government bills that really obstructed the development of anything in this country, certainly the export of natural resources. Now we hear the government at least saying some good things. It is saying that we should be selling our resources to the world and that we should be developing and building things.

I wonder if the member will acknowledge there is some change. Is there some recognition that big mistakes were made in the last 10 years in this regard?