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  • His favourite word was offence.

Last in Parliament September 2008, as Liberal MP for Welland (Ontario)

Lost his last election, in 2011, with 14% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Great Lakes Basin Ecosystem February 25th, 2000

Mr. Speaker, I would like to turn your attention to one of the world's most important natural resources, our Great Lakes.

The area surrounding the Great Lakes is home to 8.5 million Canadians and is of great economic importance to Canada. Recognizing this, Canada and Ontario signed an agreement respecting the Great Lakes Basin Ecosystem, crafted to restore and protect the ecosystem, to prevent and control pollution and to conserve species, population and habitats. A strong ecosystem is also integral to a healthy and vigorous economy.

Since signing the Canada-Ontario agreement water quality has improved substantially. Among the accomplishments is a significant decrease in the levels of contaminants in the lakes and an increase in the number of sentinel species, such as lake trout and osprey. Yet there is much more to be done. I make the plea for new funding to improve our waterways and enhance the quality of life for our citizens.

I call for the renewal of the Canada-Ontario agreement to ensure continued co-operation and co-ordination in this important endeavour. Above all else, let us leave an environmental legacy to our children.

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, the hon. member opposite has gone on at great length about what the courts have and have not done. The definition of marriage as the union of one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others goes back to the court case of Hyde and Hyde in 1866.

I point out a recent case in Ontario. In the Ontario court, general division, there was the case of Layland and Beaulne, which dealt with the definition of marriage. In that decision a majority of the court stated as follows:

—unions of persons of the same sex were not “marriages” because of the definition of marriage. The applicants were, in effect, seeking to use section 15 of the Charter to bring about a change in the definition of marriage. The court did not think the Charter has that effect.

Unions of persons of the same sex were not marriages.

In light of that statement, in that unanimous decision by the court, what is the problem? Why are they so concerned about it? It is there. The courts are saying exactly what they want them to say. Can the member reconcile the statement made by the court with what he has said today?

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, I point out to the hon. member that roughly 67% of Canadians favour this type of legislation. It is a majority in all the regions of the country. People are behind it because it is fair and it should be proceeded with, especially in view of what the court has been telling us. We cannot ignore that. We have given them that—

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, as I keep saying, it is a very complex issue. It is not black and white. It is premature. More study has to go into it.

For example, let us look at the eligibility for guaranteed income supplement. Under old age security it is determined on the basis of combining the income of both persons, which might result in reducing the benefits for some elderly people who live with their relatives. I am sure she would not want that to happen. Or, should an adult who lives with a parent and leaves after many years remain legally responsible for paying support to that parent because they were once in a dependency relationship?

These are the type of issues that have to be considered in depth and at length. We certainly will not be able to do that at the committee stage by proposing amendments, because we would not be able to look at it in the detail it warrants.

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, the hon. member is speaking to the dependency model. As indicated in my address it is a complex issue. There is certainly a lot of support for what the member is saying.

We all have family members who are in non-conjugal relationships: brothers and sisters, mothers and daughters, fathers and sons, or fathers and daughters, et cetera. The legislation is not shutting the door on them. It is leaving it open. In fact studies have already begun in this regard. The Law Reform Commission is looking into it.

It is very complex. It is not simple. It is not black and white. More study has to be done. We look forward to the member's input into this study. Let us bring forward good supplementary legislation, but we cannot ignore what the courts have told us we have to do.

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, I do not agree with that. There is nothing in the bill that has anything to do with marriage. It is about obligations and benefits.

My colleague from Scarborough can have his input on it. It is a very narrow input that has no credibility and does not hold water whatsoever. It is not affecting marriage whatsoever, whatsoever, whatsoever.

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, I thank the member for bringing forward the issue of dependency. It is very complex. I mentioned in my speech the many ramifications it could possibly have.

We are working on the issue of dependency and will move forward on it. Quite frankly I would be very surprised if some time in the near future the extension of benefits and obligations to people in dependency roles would come forward.

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, I take issue with the comment that the bill is contentious and divisive. This is something that was brought forward by the hon. member's friends in Ontario. They did not have a problem with it. In fact they introduced it one day and passed it the next. It did not go to committee as this bill will go to committee.

I take issue with what the hon. member is saying. We are dealing with all things that are coming before us. This is an important issue, vis-à-vis the charter, and we have to respond to it. We just cannot ignore what is coming forward.

Modernization Of Benefits And Obligations Act February 21st, 2000

Madam Speaker, we are debating the modernization of benefits and obligations act, an act that was sponsored jointly by the Minister of Finance, the President of the Treasury Board, the Minister of Human Resources Development and the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration.

The bill is part of an ongoing commitment by the Government of Canada to ensure that its policies and programs continue to reflect the values of Canadians, values that are enshrined in the charter of rights and freedoms.

As many members are aware, the Supreme Court of Canada made it clear that governments must treat unmarried opposite sex and same sex couples equally. When the bill is passed it will amend legislation to recognize the principle of equal treatment for all common law relationships. Same sex partners will be included in the new definition of common law partners and they will be granted the same benefits and obligations as opposite sex common law partners.

I also point out that the legislation changes will preserve the fundamental importance of marriage in Canadian society. The definition of marriage will not change. It is the union of a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others.

The bill will amend 68 federal statutes affecting 20 federal departments and agencies. The proposed changes are about fairness. Same sex couples in committed relationships should be entitled to the same benefits and obligations as their unmarried opposite sex counterparts.

The Supreme Court of Canada, in its May 1999 ruling in M. v H., has made it clear that governments cannot limit benefits or obligations to opposite sex common law relationships. The proposed changes will ensure that federal laws again reflect the values of Canadians which are enshrined in the charter.

The proposed legislation does not affect the definition of marriage. In fact, a few European countries have limited the recognition of same sex relationships but a clear distinction is maintained in law between marriage and same sex relationships.

Several provinces have already begun to amend their legislation. Since 1997 British Columbia has amended numerous statutes to include same sex partners. In June 1999 Quebec amended 28 statutes and 11 regulations to grant to same sex partners the same benefits and obligations that are available to opposite sex common law partners.

In October 1999, again to comply with the supreme court ruling in M. v H., Ontario passed omnibus legislation to bring 67 statutes into compliance with the ruling.

At present more than 200 private sector companies give benefits to their employees' same sex partners, as do many municipalities, hospitals, libraries and community and social service institutions across the country.

The bill does not preclude discussion, which has already started, on whether or how to acknowledge the nature and reality of many different types of dependent relationships. Dependency is a very complex issue with far-reaching consequences for individuals and society as a whole. A number of adult Canadians currently reside with elderly parents, siblings or other relatives. Although many federal statutes currently extend limited benefits and obligations to family relationships, further study is needed to determine if would be appropriate to treat family relationships as similar to married and common law couples in all or at least in some circumstances. While benefits which reflect dependency would likely be welcomed, it is unclear whether the accompanying legal obligations should be imposed on individuals for those relatives with whom they reside.

For example, eligibility for a guaranteed income supplement under the old age security is determined on the basis of combining the income of both persons, which might result in reducing benefits for some elderly persons who live with relatives. As another example, if an adult lives with an elderly parent for many years and then leaves, should that adult remain legally responsible to pay support for that parent because they were once in a dependent relationship?

Other issues that would need to be resolved include how dependency relationships would be defined and what relationships would be allowed. Would individuals be allowed to self-declare their relationships, or would the government require proof of some kind? Would relationships of dependency apply to any two people who live together or to unlimited numbers as long as they are under the same roof? Would the government exclude any relatives, as France has done, or exclude only opposite sex common law couples, as Hawaii has chosen to do? There are many issues yet to be resolved.

Our objective in considering changes to the system should be to encourage rather than discourage people to take care of each other. We must be careful to ensure that any legal changes would not impose obligations that act as barriers to people supporting each other.

The possibility of creating a domestic partner registry is also of interest to some. However, there are several concerns with a registry which would require further study.

There are privacy considerations since a registry would be open to the public, as are registries for births and deaths, which might result in people being forced to have their relationship publicly known. As well, there are no guarantees that such a scheme would protect the most vulnerable in a relationship, for example, where one partner might refuse to register in order to avoid legal obligations on the breakdown of that relationship.

Most important, if such a system were created at the federal level it would have limited utility as it would only apply to areas of federal jurisdiction. In Canada, where the many pieces of legislation that grant benefits and impose obligations are divided between or shared among the federal, provincial and territorial governments, a registry would require the unanimous agreement of all levels of government on the relationships to be recognized. This would be necessary to help assure Canadians that a registry would work effectively, efficiently and fairly.

These changes are balanced. Obligations as well as benefits will be conferred on same sex couples. As a result, the fiscal impact of these amendments will be minimal, if any. Clearly, this is not a cost issue.

Many here today have expressed concern that the Government of Canada is deferring to the courts on this issue and that the supreme court is overstepping its proper role. It is important to remember that the court is performing the role given to it by elected representatives of all Canadians through the introduction of the charter. There is no question that the role of the courts in interpreting the charter has given them both a higher profile and a direct influence on the daily lives of Canadians. However, at the same time, the charter also maintains the equally important role of parliament in determining important questions of social policy. I assure the House that this role is taken very seriously by the government.

The bill is about fairness. It is a balanced and responsible approach to the issue.

I wish to emphasize, because it is very important to my constituents in Erie—Lincoln, that there is nothing in the bill that alters the definition of marriage. The House will remember that we passed a motion to that effect last June, the definition being the union of one man and one woman to the exclusion of all others. The bill maintains a distinction between married and unmarried couples and no changes are made to the legal definition of marriage.

The term spouse in the federal legislation will refer only to married persons and the term common law partner will refer to those in same sex and opposite sex common law relationships. As pointed out, the bill extends both benefits and obligations to common law same sex couples.

Given the potential impact on individuals, as well as on government programming costs of creating a system of benefits based on broader principles of dependency, the issue again will require further study and consultation.

However, our objective is clear: We wish to encourage rather than discourage people to take care of each other. We must be careful to ensure that any legal changes will not impose obligations or barriers to people supporting each other.

Starred Questions February 21st, 2000

An application to fund a project was made by the Grand Council of the Crees of Quebec under the Department of Justice's aboriginal justice strategy. Funding in the amount of $77,000 was allocated to the grand council for the 1999-2000 fiscal year.