Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was friend.

Last in Parliament October 2000, as NDP MP for Kamloops (B.C.)

Lost his last election, in 2000, with 28% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Criminal Code March 17th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to rise in this important debate on Bill C-245. Let me first say how much I appreciate my colleague from Oxford for bringing the bill forward. It is very timely and very appropriate. It provides members of Parliament with the opportunity to speak out on behalf of those who are unable to speak for themselves. I refer particularly to the children of Canada.

Over the last number of years I spent a great deal of time with friends and associates who have worked in the Kamloops Sexual Assault Centre. I have received countless letters from constituents concerned about the issue of child abuse, sexual predation upon children and other related issues.

In my time before I became a member of Parliament I was a teacher for 15 years. I knew of countless cases of young people whose lives had been destroyed irreparably because of some unscrupulous person involving them in unwanted sexual acts at a very young age.

Many of my friends are guidance counsellors and family counsellors of one kind or another. Many are in the field of rehabilitation in terms of sexual assault victims as well as those accused and found guilty of sexual assault. The stories they tell can be summarized in a word and that is devastation. Young people who are forced to experience this type of activity at a young age essentially have their lives destroyed in most cases forever.

I cannot help but mention many of my friends, particularly those in the Shuswap First Nation in Kamloops, who over the years brought forward the stories of their experiences in so-called Indian residential schools which, I am loathe to say, were sponsored by various religious orders. They tell of the physical abuse they experienced and in particular sexual abuse that not only destroyed their lives in many ways but destroyed the lives of their children as well.

We have seen generation after generation of people whose lives and the lives of their children and perhaps their grandchildren have been affected in a negative way because of being involved in some sexual predation.

My colleague from Oxford brought forth Bill C-245, an act to amend the Criminal Code regarding penalties for sexual offences involved children. I applaud him for this initiative. I assume all members of Parliament, when they have a chance to vote on it, will vote in support of the bill. I know I speak for myself and for colleagues to whom I have talked about the bill when I say we endorse it enthusiastically.

Let me simply say that the reason there is so much enthusiasm in support of this initiative is that many members of Parliament find that sentences for crimes against children are inadequate in today's court system.

Countless times people have said to me that we have a legal system but we do not have a justice system, that it lacks a sense of justice. Therefore, the bill which will increase the maximum sentence for sexual assault on a child to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole for 25 years is supportable. As well, the sentence for forcible confinement of a child in the bill is increased to 14 years from the present 10 years. The definition of child pornography would now extend to any information or reproduction transmitted by electronic means.

In the next few moments I want to say why I support the bill so strongly. The current maximum sentence for sexual assault, as I said, is 10 years. According to information obtained through the adult criminal court survey, the average sentence being given for sexual assault is less than 1,287 days, less than four years.

These are sexual assaults with a weapon. These are sexual assaults resulting in aggravated assault. These are horrendous acts perpetrated against a person, in this case against children. It is difficult to imagine a more unscrupulous, heinous type of individual than one who would participate in these types of acts.

Because there is no real distinction between sexual assault on the child and other charges of sexual assault, the member shared with the House the average sentence for sexual touching of a child under 14. This is a charge in which sexual intent must be proven, I might add. The average sentence imposed by the courts is 288 days, less than one full year.

People involved in a direct sexual way with the intent of having a sexual act with a child, if found guilty, may receive a penalty to serve time in prison of less than a year. What kind of signal does that send to people who have destroyed some young child's life? Having a few days in jail certainly does not deter one, but it sends a signal that we as a society essentially or relatively condone this type of behaviour. As a society we ought not to have any tolerance at all regarding violence toward people. We should not have any tolerance at all involving adults perpetrating sexual activity with a young child.

Seventy-seven per cent of the accused in solved violent incidents involving children under 12 years of age have had some kind of relationship with the victim. In 31 per cent of these cases the accused was a member of the victim's immediate family. This is the kind of information that does not make one feel terribly comfortable.

Bill C-245 speaks directly to sexual assault on a child. It amends section 271 of the Criminal Code by increasing the maximum sentence to imprisonment for life with no parole eligibility for 25 years, if guilty of sexual assault on a child under 8 years of age or a child under 14 years of age who is under the offender's trust or authority or dependent on the offender.

Just as an aside at this point, I might add that it is a rare case when a serious pedophile or someone who has been involved with aggressive sexual behaviour with a child is rehabilitated. I know there are programs that people attend. I know there are courses that people are required to attend when serving prison terms for these types of offences, but I think the evidence would suggest that it is a rarity for someone to modify their behaviour sufficiently to ensure that type of behaviour will not be repeated.

That is why I think locking these people up, these sexual predators of children, makes sense in terms of protecting society from this type of behaviour.

I want to make it clear at this point that the sentence being advocated in Bill C-245 is the same sentence as that for first degree murder. It was the mover's suggestion that many of his constituents felt that in the very worst cases of child sexual assault the sentence should be equal to that of murder, the reason being that these assaults have in many ways murdered the children's soul, the child's self-esteem and the child's mind.

We just need to recall the abuse of young hockey players that occurred in the Toronto stadium, Maple Leaf Gardens. One of the victims ended up committing suicide as a way of dealing with his trauma.

I could go on and on, but I will not take up valuable time because I know other of my colleagues want to speak to this important issue. I refer particularly to the section of the bill that suggests we should increase the maximum penalty for forcible confinement from 10 to 14 years in the case of a parent or ward who confines a child and thereby harms the child's physical or mental health. My colleague pointed out the case where the individual locked his three sons in wire cages in a dark basement.

We can all recall these kinds of examples we see revealed in the courts from time to time where parents or those responsible for young children for whatever peculiar horrible set of reasons decide to confine children in unimaginable circumstances. It is fair to say that anybody who is perpetuating that type of activity should be punished. More important, society needs to be protected from these kinds of people.

I thank the member for Oxford for introducing this bill. We have to take steps to keep child pornography off the electronic mail and the Internet. He can count on my support.

Motions For Papers March 11th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I was looking over the agenda of the House for the next little while. Could you give some indication of when we will start to deal with some really serious issues of importance to Canadians?

Petitions March 11th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I have another petition which deals with our unfair tax system.

The petitioners point out that our tax system is biased, unfair and unjust, that it is biased in favour of large corporations over small businesses and that it is biased in favour of upper income earners as opposed to average working Canadians.

They are asking the Government of Canada to undertake fair tax reform in such a fashion that every tax exemption is considered under a cost benefit to Canada and that those which clearly do not benefit Canada and Canadians should be eliminated.

Petitions March 11th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, it is an honour to rise pursuant to Standing Order 36 to present a petition on behalf of a few hundred of my constituents from Kamloops, British Columbia, who are concerned about the government's plans to radically change the retirement income system of Canada, the seniors' benefit package.

They have heard all kinds of rumours and they are asking the Government of Canada to ensure that sufficient hearings are held across the country to ensure that all Canadians have an opportunity to indicate their response to the recommendations.

Health Care March 10th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, we witnessed earlier today a form of parliamentary hooliganism. Unlike the Reform Party, I am going to ask the government a question regarding home care. Hooliganism has no place on the floor of this Parliament. I think it is time we consider question period in a serious vein.

My question is for the Minister of Health. When will Canadians see a commitment in financial dollars for home care?

The Senate March 10th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, one issue that unites Canadians from coast to coast to coast is the issue of Senate reform.

It costs Canadian taxpayers approximately $60 million a year to run the Senate. In overwhelming numbers Canadians want the existing, unelected, unaccountable, undemocratic Senate abolished.

A Senate filled with political hacks, flacks and bagmen has no place in a modern day democracy, but despite his rhetoric the Prime Minister refuses to initiate any process of real Senate reform when opportunities occur.

Recently in British Columbia a Senate vacancy provided an opportunity for the Prime Minister to begin the process of real Senate reform.

The premier of British Columbia supports Senate abolition and Senate reform. The people of B.C. want to abolish the Senate. B.C. is fed up with the Senate. With 13% of the population of Canada it has less than 6% of the seats.

Why does the Prime Minister continue to ignore B.C.? Why does he not listen to the people of British Columbia? Why does he ignore the government and the premier of British Columbia calling for abolition of the Senate?

B.C. does not want another appointed senator. B.C. wants this Senate abolished.

The Budget March 10th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I have a quick question.

My friend stated that governments did not create jobs. While I say that is true to a point, could my hon. friend tell us who pays doctors, nurses, teachers, members of the RCMP, people who work in our trade offices overseas, our armed forces and our parole officers?

Canadians and the Minister of Health are calling for more home care and for more opportunities in hospitals. Will my hon. friend tell me who pays for these very essential people in society?

The Budget March 10th, 1998

Madam Speaker, I know there are others who want to ask questions so I will keep my questions very short.

Last week I had the opportunity to meet with a number of aboriginal leaders from central British Columbia. They pointed out two serious concerns that they faced, recognizing the need for empowerment and the fact that they feel they can solve so many of the challenges facing them on their own, but they do need further education and training. A number of individuals living on reserves indicated that they simply are not able to access funding for education, particularly at the post-secondary level. It is a serious problem.

Second, native young people who see part of the answer to be through friendship centres are complaining about the dramatic lack of funding to support the programs in the friendship centres.

Could my hon. friend comment on these two areas where yes, there is support today, but I think she would also agree that the funding is seriously underfunded in terms of the challenges and the needs there? What hope can she give that changes are in the offing?

Petitions March 9th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I have a third petition which I wish to present. The petitioners are concerned about the government's plans to change the pension system and the retirement income system of Canada. They call upon the government, at least this time, to ensure there is adequate public debate on the issue before any decisions are taken.

Petitions March 9th, 1998

Mr. Speaker, I have a second petition which I wish to present. A large number of petitioners from throughout British Columbia are calling upon the government not to sign the multilateral agreement on investment, period.