Crucial Fact

  • His favourite word was friend.

Last in Parliament October 2000, as NDP MP for Kamloops (B.C.)

Lost his last election, in 2000, with 28% of the vote.

Statements in the House

National Solidarity Day For The Aboriginal Peoples Of Canada Act April 4th, 1995

Chief Sol Sanderson from Saskatchewan and David Ahenakew and others as my colleague says. There are so many. We owe them so much.

We must consider that before us in the next number of years probably the most important social issue will be the relationship between aboriginal people and non-aboriginal people and sorting out this complex and growing relationship.

I refer to the emerging reality of self-government, of self-determination and of self-reliance for aboriginal peoples, the resolution of land claims, cultural preservation, social and economic development, educational training and general cultural advancement.

I acknowledge the minister of Indian and northern affairs who has in his own way provided much needed leadership in a variety of these areas.

When we look at the last 18 months, there have been significant advancements in terms of a move toward self-government, self-determination and self-reliance, particularly for progressive Indian bands across the country to say nothing of the Inuit, Dene and Metis advancements as well.

In order to permit my hon. colleague to say a few words, I will conclude my remarks by saying that at a crucial time in the First Nation's evolution in our part of North America, it is very appropriate for us as parliamentarians on behalf of those we represent to extend a hand in acknowledgement of the contributions made by the First Nations.

We must tell them we recognize and appreciate those accomplishments and that we would like to work co-operatively, positively together for the advancement not only of aboriginal peoples across Canada but Canadians generally. We do acknowledge the existence of First Nations and what that entails.

I would like to finish my remarks by referring to the Indian Act and how this act, in my judgment, was a lie from the beginning. The lie is betrayed in the first line of the act: "This is an act respecting Indian people". This was not an act respecting Indian people and it is for that reason I ask my colleagues to extend a hand now and recognize June 21 as a solidarity day for aboriginal peoples.

National Solidarity Day For The Aboriginal Peoples Of Canada Act April 4th, 1995

My hon. colleague from Regina-Lumsden suggests this is a good idea. We will see as the hour progresses.

The preamble of Bill C-244, an act respecting a national solidarity day for the aboriginal peoples of Canada, is as follows:

Whereas it is desirable that Canadians designate a day in recognition of Canada's original inhabitants;

And whereas Canadians seek earnestly to set an example of their commitment to honouring native cultures;

And whereas June 21, being the longest day of the year and marking the changing of the seasons, should be designated as a day in tribute of Aboriginal solidarity;

Now, therefore, Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:

Therefore this act may be cited as the National Solidarity Day for the Aboriginal Peoples of Canada Act. If it passes it will be just that.

A point of clarification is needed. A number of my colleagues, particularly in the Reform Party, have asked whether this is a legal holiday. The point is not to make it a legal holiday but to designate it as a day when Canadians from coast to coast join with aboriginal peoples from coast to coast in acknowledging the tremendous cultural contribution First Nations and aboriginal people have made to this country. There is some question about who the first Europeans were who arrived on these shores. I take some pride in saying that my forefathers, the Vikings, were probably the first Europeans, although some people suggest it was the Irish. Some suggest the Chinese. Whoever they were it is important to say they arrived on the shores of North America and Canada to meet incredibly advanced cultures; cultures that had existed in some cases in rather hostile natural environments for hundreds and hundreds of years, thousands of years in many cases.

They had developed not only an incredible harmony in terms of working with each other and complimenting each of the organizations, tribes, clans and cultures in existence but they worked and lived in harmony with the natural environment.

When the first explorers from Europe arrived on Canadian shores they found by and large people who complimented their efforts and assisted them. They gave of all their own resources and so on to facilitate in the exploration of what we call today Canada.

Then the colonizers arrived. The settlers arrived. They met a relatively welcoming culture, a welcoming people who introduced them to the realities of living in this part of the globe. One can imagine the incredible suffering that would have occurred with some of these original settlers if the original inhabitants of those areas were not there offering co-operation, support, guidance and help at virtually every turn.

Things took a turn for the worse. It was then that we as a non-aboriginal culture began to practice what can only be called cultural genocide in many cases with intent, in other cases indirectly. The reality was disease, sickness, illness, violence and all sorts of aspects resulted in the genocide of aboriginal cultures, almost to their extinction.

Right now as we speak there are only a handful of original aboriginal languages left in the country. Thank goodness that at the 11th hour we have to give full credit to the aboriginal leaders across the country who stood up and said: "This is the end. We will now reverse this process". Through incredible leadership they have reversed the process of cultural extinction. Today aboriginal cultures from coast to coast are probably richer, more vibrant and more dynamic than they have been for a long time.

I want to refer to a number of aboriginal leaders in my constituency. Every member could stand in their place this afternoon and do the same. There are outstanding individuals who in a number of ways through their leadership ability and commitment to not only advancing the cause of their own peoples but the country as a whole have made these tremendous gains possible.

I refer to people like Chief Nathan Matthew, Chief Manny Jules, Chief Ron Ignace, Chief Richard LeBourdais and many others from the Shuswap nation of central British Columbia. I acknowledge those same statements could be made for aboriginal leaders from coast to coast.

National Solidarity Day For The Aboriginal Peoples Of Canada Act April 4th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I appreciate the generosity in allowing my colleague to join me in co-sponsoring the bill. In the Order Paper there are a number of co-sponsors. I refer specifically to the member for the Battlefords-Meadow Lake, the member for Regina-Lumsden and the member for Burnaby-Kingsway. Others have also indicated to me they are in support of the bill.

This is the second time I have actually tabled the bill. The first time it received the support of every aboriginal organization in the country. It received support from countless bands across the country and also from many urban organizations of aboriginal people and all the significant leaders of aboriginal peoples. To my knowledge no one has yet indicated their opposition to it, either among the aboriginal or the non-aboriginal communities.

We only have one hour for debate. In the closing moments I would hope either the debate would collapse, which would then allow a voiced vote to send it off to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development, or simply unanimous consent to send this off to the appropriate standing committee for continuation.

The bill is fairly straightforward. I do not suspect it would take an awful lot of study and examination. There may be the will of the House to provide unanimous consent to move through all stages before the hour is out, which we have done on previous occasions.

National Solidarity Day For The Aboriginal Peoples Of Canada Act April 4th, 1995

moved that Bill C-244, an act respecting a national solidarity day for the aboriginal peoples of Canada, be read the second time and referred to a committee.

Madam Speaker, recognizing that the starting speaker is allotted up to 20 minutes, I would like to seek the unanimous consent of the House to see if I could share this 20-minute spot with one of my New Democrat colleagues.

The Budget April 4th, 1995

There was no significant change in monetary policy in the budget. There was tinkering with the tax system only in terms of reform. The main thrust has been through massive cuts to social programs, actually all government programs.

Presuming that this is to lead to economic prosperity and job creation, will the minister tell us what country and what government he used as a model to demonstrate that this approach actually works and is successful?

The Budget April 4th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Finance who I think will agree that his budget has taken us down an unprecedented course.

Budget Implementation Act, 1995 April 3rd, 1995

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to participate in the debate on Bill C-76, the budget implementation act.

I have been here all day listening to the speeches of my hon. colleagues. I get an uncanny feeling that we are seeing the results of the Peter Pan school of economics at work. You remember Peter Pan, Madam Speaker. He was the person who said: "If you really believe you can fly, you will fly". What I am hearing from countless members is that if we cut deeper, if we lay off public servants and if we dismantle all kinds of social and economic programs, watch Canada prosper. That requires an awful lot of faith in something.

I see across the aisle my hon. colleague from Notre-Dame-de-Grace. He was one of the few government members who had the courage to say that the kind of programs that decade after decade of parliamentarians on behalf of Canadians have struggled to build are being dismantled in a matter of hours by the government.

It is no mistake that Canada is the number one country in the world in which to live and raise families. However, the reason for that is the whole set of very progressive social programs that the government is in the process of dismantling as quickly as possible.

Today reminds me of a story I read when I was a kid. I think it was Robert Louis Stevenson who wrote The Wreckers . This book was about a group of people who lived on an island in the South Pacific. On one side of the island was a rocky shoal out in the

surf. At night they would often put lanterns out on the rocks to give the impression to passing ships that it was the harbour entrance. As the ships entered this so-called harbour, which in fact was a shoal of rocks, the ship smashed up into pieces and these unscrupulous pirates and others went out and looted the ships. They misrepresented the harbour entrance.

I have a feeling this is what we are doing here. I cannot believe what I am hearing my colleagues say. For example, I heard a number of my Liberal friends say that the red book set out a whole number of promises and they have kept them. I remember the red book stating: "This NAFTA deal with the United States and Mexico is not good for our businesses and our working people and we will dismantle this program unless massive changes occur". There were virtually no changes at all. Now the Prime Minister has not only signed us into NAFTA, he is trying to sign us into an extension of NAFTA with countries like Chile and others. It was one of the major commitments that was made to the Canadian people and was the basis on which they gave the Liberals their support.

The other crucial one was the GST. I remember my Liberal opponent in Kamloops saying: "If you elect me as a Liberal representative we promise to abolish the GST". As a matter of fact, the deputy leader said: "If that GST is not abolished I will resign my seat because I am so committed to doing this". Here we are, 18 months into the Liberal term of office, and nary a whisper about the GST's abandonment. As a matter of fact they did suggest we change the name. Maybe that was their version of abolishment, to abolish the name of the GST because we are sick of it.

Those were two major promises given to the electorate. Another one was child care. I remember the hon. member from Winnipeg on countless occasions standing up in the House of Commons saying that child care was crucial to the economic development of the country's future. With increasing single parent families and two spouses in the workplace, child care is not a luxury or a social program, it is critical to economic development. Was there even one mention of child care in the budget? Nary a mention. When I put the question to the Minister of Human Resources Development he said: "We will be working on that as long as all of the provinces agree". I can predict the outcome of that.

Then the environment was going to be a priority. That was critical because we all agreed that all of these other programs were essentially irrelevant unless we really came together and worked hard to preserve the quality of the Canadian environment. What have we done? Wait and see. I bet that in a matter of weeks we will be dismantling the environment department. It has been virtually gutted of any consequence, therefore we might just as well toss it out. I can see that announcement coming.

I could go on and on about broken promises but I think they are well known and I do not have to keep it up.

However, government members have been saying: "We had a balanced, just and fair approach". Fair for what? I remember my friends opposite giving a standing ovation to the Minister of Finance on budget day. I will read from the budget: "First, the existing large corporations tax will be increased by 12.5 per cent effective immediately in order that big companies contribute more to help bring the deficit down". People rose to their feet and applauded because the Liberals were getting tough on the big companies, on capital.

Let us look closely at that. The capital tax is 0.2 per cent. It is going to skyrocket from 0.2 per cent to 0.22 per cent. Now 0.22 per cent is an increase of 12.5 per cent, but it is infinitesimal. It is virtually meaningless. You can imagine the big corporations snickering when they heard that. However, the impression was that there was balance because the government was hitting big corporations hard.

The government also said in the budget it would take on the banks. The government imposed a temporary tax for one year. What does that mean, a temporary tax for one year? Nobody in the House would dare to stand and suggest that the banks were getting a tough ride, so the government said that it would get tough and impose a temporary tax which would only last one year.

Where is the balance? I do not think there is a single person who would not admit that the victims of the recession are the hardest pressed today. Where are the major cuts coming? The major cuts are coming from training programs, educational programs, health care programs and all social service programs. Who benefits from those programs the most but the victims of the recession, the unemployed and the poor people of the country. Those are the people who the government is hitting. A little tap on the nose for the big corporations, a little tap on the head for the big banks, and everyone else will get whacked.

We have a deficit problem. We have a serious debt problem. However, let us ask the question. What was it that caused the debt? How did we get into this bloody mess? We have to go no further than to ask Statistics Canada. In 1991 Statistics Canada conducted a major study into the cause of the debt. The study indicated that our $560 billion debt was caused by three items.

Fifty per cent of the debt is the result of compound interest, in other words, monetary policy. The government set a certain monetary policy which we heard about the other day when it became clear that the Minister of Finance and the Governor of the Bank of Canada had entered into a sweetheart deal. The Minister of Finance promised that he would not allow inflation to rise above 3 per cent. He said he would do anything to keep it down, which meant high interest rates. Today we have one of

the highest interest rates in the industrialized world. Fifty per cent of our accumulated debt is the result of that.

Forty-four per cent of our accumulated debt is the result of tax exemptions. There are all sorts of tax exemptions, tax programs, tax loopholes, et cetera. $38 billion a year is lost through that sieve. Again, $38 billion has not been collected as the result of a whole set of tax breaks. I am not going to suggest for a moment that none of them are any good. However, virtually none of them do the things that we want them to do. Forty-four per cent of our accumulated debt comes from tax breaks.

Let me ask my Liberal colleagues across the way if they really support the notion that escort services should be a legitimate tax deduction. If they do not they should stand up and say it. Do they really believe that luxury boxes should be written off as a tax exemption? If they really do not believe that they should stand up and criticize these things. There are huge holes in the tax system which allow $38 billion to remain uncollected year after year.

Now we come to the crunch. Six per cent of the government's accumulated debt since the mid-1970s is as a result of government programs like the armed forces, the RCMP, health care, pensions, et cetera. If we only look at social programs it comes to 2 per cent. What did the government do? It focused on the 2 per cent that caused the debt as opposed to the other 98 per cent.

The government has actually got it reversed. Rather than dealing with monetary policy and tax reform, it decided to take on those who have been victimized by the recession. I say to my Liberal friends: Shame on you. To my Reform friends I say: Double shame.

Petitions April 3rd, 1995

Madam Speaker, it is an honour to present a petition called the Melanie Carpenter petition which includes another installation of a few thousand names.

The petitioners believe that many violent offenders and sex offenders are being paroled prematurely or are being released without proper treatment and rehabilitation. They also believe that those convicted of dangerous and sexual offences should remain incarcerated until they have successfully undergone treatment and can demonstrate unequivocally that they have been completely rehabilitated.

The petitioners ask the Minister of Justice and the Government of Canada to take whatever steps are necessary to amend Canada's Criminal Code and the parole system to ensure the safety and peace of our neighbourhoods.

West Coast Fishery April 3rd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, the minister of fisheries has taken a very strong stand on behalf of the east coast turbot fishery. For that he is to be applauded. While he goes to the wall to save the turbot, I urge him not to forget the other coast of Canada.

The recent Fraser report and the Suzuki Foundation report point out that the five species of British Columbia salmon are at high risk due to overfishing and habitat loss. The report reveals that many more serious issues face the west coast salmon fishery and identifies specific initiatives requiring immediate action.

Our west coast salmon fishery is still a viable fishery. To ensure that it remains viable, it requires immediate attention.

It was a lack of proper management that placed the west coast salmon fishery at risk. I urge the minister of fisheries to give the time, energy and support to the west coast that he has so generously given to the east coast.

Petitions March 17th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present this Melanie Carpenter petition organized by Nick Carter and other staff members from JC-55 SuperCountry Radio station in Kamloops and circulated throughout the Kamloops area, the north and south Thompson valleys and the community of Logan Lake as well as a number of other communities throughout central British Columbia.

This brings to 22,000 the number of names of individuals calling for changes to Canada's justice system and parole system in an effort to make our streets and neighbourhoods safe places in which to live and to raise our families.

Specifically, the petitioners believe that those convicted of dangerous and sexual offences should remain incarcerated until they have successfully undergone treatment and can demonstrate unequivocally that they have been completely rehabilitated.