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  • His favourite word was reform.

Last in Parliament September 2002, as Liberal MP for Saint Boniface (Manitoba)

Won his last election, in 2000, with 52% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Supply September 30th, 1997

Madam Speaker, if my colleague had given me notice of the question ahead of time, I could have been very specific. I will get the information for him.

I know that a substantial portion has been repaid. I know that there have been in some instances rather interesting interest rates. However, I will get the specific details for him. I hope that my colleague is not saying that if it was not all repaid that it was a total failure. What is my colleague saying? That is what I am trying to get at.

I know, Madam Speaker, that you and my other colleagues are very much interested in what is behind the question. If the hon. member really wanted to know those interest rates and if he really wanted to know the exact portion—and he is a very clever colleague—he would have given that question to me in writing and he would have known that I would have had the answer for him.

My suspicion is that there is something behind it. I think he is trying to say that the Reform Party does not agree that the government ought to have such a program; that the Reform Party does not believe we ought to be assisting high tech companies, small and medium size companies to go forth and produce products which can be sold in Canada and throughout the world. That is what I think is happening.

Supply September 30th, 1997

I heard somebody say “bingo”. I hope that person will jump up and include that as part of his speech. Finally somebody over there is agreeing with a government initiative.

I go on very briefly. I want to share another quote. It is from Toronto Star columnist David Crane and reads:

It will take more than government programs to build an innovation culture in Canada. But government can provide strong leadership and encouragement by providing funding—and incentives—to stimulate and encourage the innovation process.

These people who are not in opposition or in government are able to say positive things about the government and what it has done.

What does the opposition do? The first opportunity it gets to show that it could be comprehensive, sensitive and respond as a totally responsible opposition it tries to pretend that the government has been irresponsible. It tries to pretend that the spending is not appropriate.

I would love to send this over to my opposition colleagues. It is a compilation of selected quotes on Liberal fiscal policy which I have collected: “Martin has accomplished several important things. He showed that the Liberals are able to balance a chequebook”. They go on to discuss the budget. This is so good and I am terribly sorry I do not have the time to read it.

The other is a compilation of selected quotes on Reform's fiscal policies and this is even better. “The package, fresh start, is infuriatingly vague on identifying specific spending cuts and their timing. Like Bob Dole, Manning runs the risk of a credibility gap on the deficit”. I have several others and I am terribly sorry that I have to stop my remarks now.

Supply September 30th, 1997

One colleagues has just said that they are here to oppose. They are here to say whatever it is that comes to mind whether it makes any sense or not. I suppose that is the basic assumption.

Another notion is that the government is there to protect no matter what. Let us deal with what is being said about some of the things we have done. I do not know if these people have any political affiliation. Let me put on my glasses because I would not want to misquote and thereby cause some real serious disruption on the opposition side.

On the Speech from the Throne Tim Reid, president of the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, said:

We applaud the achievement of getting to a balanced budget, but the risk is that we underplay the threat of the massive debt. The government really should be setting targets to reduce the debt to GDP ratio.

William Leggett, president of Queen's University, said the following on the scholarship fund:

It is an important initiative. I hope that this leadership will be followed by the provinces.

We have not heard a whole lot about that. It is a marvellous submission for the next millennium. They should have stood and applauded, not congratulated the government if that made them feel a little queasy. They could have congratulated one another for standing up unanimously in support of a program that will be good for young Canadians today, tomorrow and for a long time.

What were some of the headlines following the Speech from the Throne? “Federal Liberals to create scholarship fund, a good initiative” was one in the Globe and Mail . “A billion dollars for brains” was another in the Ottawa Sun on September 25, 1997.

In the Journal de Montréal of September 25, one could read this: “Chrétien on the front line” and “Ottawa to create large scholarship fund”. There are several such headlines because it is seen as quite a creative initiative.

“A $1 billion scholarship fund to help low income students” was in the Ottawa Citizen . Again it is mentioned. It has been mentioned time and time again, and there has not been one positive comment from members of the opposition. I say shame on the opposition.

That is not all that has been said. I go on to quote Tom Brzustowksi, president of the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council:

We should be doing all that we can to attract the best and the brightest of graduate studies in science and engineering, because the future prosperity and well-being of Canadians will depend to a very large extent on their efforts.

Supply September 30th, 1997

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to be in this House a third time.

I would take this opportunity to thank those who re-elected me a third time with a majority of over 50 percent.

I am honoured to have been able to represent them for almost nine years now and I shall continue to work hard for them.

I want to say a few words about my riding. It is a reflection of what Canada is all about.

There is a large anglophone majority of approximately 80 percent and a significant francophone minority of nearly 20 percent.

It is made up of Canadians from virtually every single country in the world and, as well, our first Canadians, including the Metis.

I am fortunate to be able to represent a riding that is as diverse, as rich and as meaningful to Canada. These various people in my riding have learned to work and celebrate together. It is a lesson that we can share with other Canadians. Who knows? Perhaps that is the legacy that Canada can leave to the world, of having people of different tastes, different cultures, different languages working and celebrating together in harmony for the benefit of all.

I want to extend my best wishes and my congratulations as well—

—and to my colleagues of every political persuasion. I wish them good luck.

I want to get to the very heart and soul of this debate by sharing with my colleagues the motion that is before us for discussion this afternoon.

The opposition motion reads as follows, and I want to be absolutely sure to read it correctly.

September 29, 1997—Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat) moved that this House condemn the government for making their 50/50 election promise on any future surpluses without adequate public debate as to the optimal size of government, taxes and debt, thus threatening to repeat Canada's 27 year old history of irresponsible spending, creating high debt, financed by high taxes, causing high unemployment.

When I read such a motion I have to ask the following questions: Did my colleague listen to the Speech from the Throne? Did my colleague take the time to read it? Did my colleague not hear what the journalists from television, radio and print had to say? Not some partisan petty little shot in order to score political points, but people who are out there to critique.

Yes, my dear colleagues, those whose job it is to try to tell the truth as they see it, rather than the members of the opposition, who are here to try to embarrass the government and to try to do you know what. I see a big grin.

Obviously, you know what they do.

He did not listen to the speech. He did not read the speech. He did not listen to what the journalists had to say on radio and television or in print. If he had, he would not have made that motion. Of all the motions he could have selected, of every single possibility, to show that they were indeed a responsible opposition, an opposition that saw the whole country, an opposition that was not prepared to play petty little politics at the beginning of the parliamentary session, of all the possibilities, he picked this one. He did not see the key themes.

Let me share with the House the key themes. We will balance the budget no later than fiscal year 1998-99, the first time in three decades. We will strive to split our budgetary surpluses on a 50:50 basis over the course of our second mandate. Half will go to a combination of tax reductions and debt repayment. Half will go to strategic investments in our children, our youth, our health, our communities, our knowledge and our creativity.

Those are some of the key points the hon. member who made the motion forgot to read. He also forgot there are several others worth emphasizing: investing in our children, investir de façon importante dans nos enfants.

We all know that investments in the well-being of today's children improve the long term health of the nation. I wish that would have been acknowledged by my colleagues.

We have important new initiatives. We will establish centres of excellence to deepen our understanding of children's development. We will expand the aboriginal head start program.

Are those the kinds of programs that my colleague is condemning? If so, let him stand and say so. Let him not hide behind some opposition motion brought forth to try to embarrass the government.

Did he see the one on investing in quality care and good health?

It is my impression that my colleague did not see the part about investing in good health and quality care. For some reason, he missed that. He did not take the time to listen to or read it.

We will be preserving and enhancing medicare. Canadians want that. We will be responding with expanded needs for home and community care and a national drug plan. Is that what he wants us to eliminate?

If that is what he wants, let him stand up and declare it to everybody, including his constituents.

We will be promoting health and new initiatives to address tuberculosis and diabetes in aboriginal communities. We will be renewing the national AIDS strategy. Are those the programs he wants eliminated too?

Are those the programs he wants eliminated, rejected and put aside? Does he think there are no needs in these areas, that we should not be investing in children, in health?

If he had read a bit more he would have seen that we want and are committed to building safer communities.

Building safer communities is one of the government's key objectives. There is no magic solution, despite what the political background of my colleague who has just advanced this proposal claims. It is hard work, it is complex. Progress must be made a step at a time, with healthy programs. That is what we intend to do.

We will continue with our safe homes and safe streets agenda which has helped us make solid gains in enhancing public safety. I hope my colleague does not want that program eliminated as well.

What about creating opportunities for young Canadians? Was that one of the ones he would have liked simply thrown out?

Creating opportunities for young Canadians is, to my mind, a huge priority. This has been referred to already several times since the start of the 36th Parliament. Surely he does not want to do away with these programs for our young people, push them aside, put them out of existence? That is surely not the case.

We will secure the future of our young people. We have important priorities to make sure the young generation makes a successful transition to the world of work.

We know how difficult it is in usual times, and these are unusual times. It is particularly difficult to ensure that young people who want to continue to learn have access to education. That is a critical priority for the welfare of all. It is difficult to be absolutely certain young people who found it difficult getting started in the workplace have a second chance when necessary. They often need that second chance.

Is that what my colleague pretends is foolish, inappropriate, insensitive, wasteful spending?

Is that what he intends? Another program he wants to see eliminated?

Here is another theme that we have heard nothing about.

We must invest in knowledge and creativity.

Does he not believe that investing in knowledge and creativity is important for the nation and the welfare of all citizens? Is that what he wants eliminated? Let him stand and say so.

We are increasingly an important part of a global village in a global economy. In this new economy, knowledge, innovation and creativity are the keys to preserving and enhancing prosperity.

We want to continue partnerships between private and public sectors. We want to devise targeted growth strategies that focus on knowledge intensive sectors. We want to have small and medium size businesses develop and commercialize new technology.

Because I have additional responsibilities in this area, I want to say a few words about science, innovation and technology. We as a nation have a decision to make. We will invest in a wise, sensitive, significant way in science, innovation and technology to continue to be leaders of nations, and if we do not we will follow. We have made some important investments.

We have made some very substantial investments and I will give you just a few examples.

To the Canadian Foundation for Innovation to enhance the structure of our universities and our hospitals when research is conducted, $800 million over five years. It has been applauded by most Canadians.

I have not heard one person say that was wasteful spending as the member and his party suggest. Perhaps he is not speaking for his party. Perhaps they will stand and denounce this kind of irresponsibility.

We have stabilized with funding to the centres d'excellence.

This is a great program to ensure that universities work with the private sector and that the best projects are funded, so that we are at the forefront, that we are the leaders. Perhaps the hon. member does not enjoy being first. Perhaps third, fourth or tenth is good enough for him. But not for us.

Has he heard about the technology partnership programs where we assist businesses that want to be on the leading edge of the development of technology?

Has he heard about IRAP which has several people out there advising and assisting people who want to develop new programs and projects? Are these the kinds of programs that he thinks are wasteful and ought to be eliminated?

Has he heard about the prime minister's advisory committee on science and technology, a group of particularly talented Canadians who advise wisely on science, innovation and technology so that we can make the very best decisions possible in terms of policy options and in terms of pursuing strategic initiatives and additional partnerships? Does he want to cut that too? Does he consider that wasteful? Is that an insensitive way to spend money? I am surprised he did not talk about that.

I want to talk a bit about another key theme that I suspect might have been discussed by the Reform Party: expanding opportunities in aboriginal communities.

We know we must improve opportunities for aboriginal communities. We all know that, in the vast majority of cases, their financial situation is extremely difficult. While Canadians may take infrastructures for granted, such infrastructures are non-existent on a number of reserves.

So, is this the type of programs the hon. member feels we should eliminate to further reduce the deficit and the debt? Is this what he wants to do? I hope not. I hope his colleagues do not share such unsound goals—

We on this side of the House want to see aboriginal communities become stronger and healthier. We are working to further their progress toward achieving self-government. We believe it will provide additional well-being and economic independence. That is what they want and what most Canadians want for their aboriginal brothers and sisters.

We are ready and willing to work with all interested parties to develop a long term comprehensive plan of action and partnership with aboriginal leaders and people throughout Canada.

We all realize opposition members are here to oppose, and I suppose some would say to criticize. I hope it would be to critique insightfully and sensitively a document such as the Speech from the Throne and say “Here are the initiatives we think are pretty sound. Here are other initiatives the government may want to consider. Here is how to improve them”.

No, we do not hear a positive word from any one of them. Why is that? Why? I hear from the opposition ranks that it is because they are the opposition.

If my colleagues want to say some positive things about the Speech from the Throne, about the prime minister or about my colleagues on this side of the House, we will not ask them to sit down because they happen to be in the opposition. I give them an iron clad guarantee. I have not checked with my colleagues but I suspect I could get unanimous approval.

Act To Vacate The Conviction Of Louis Riel April 25th, 1997

moved for leave to introduce Bill C-440, an act to vacate the conviction of Louis Riel.

Mr. Speaker, this bill, entitled an act to vacate the conviction of Louis Riel, has two purposes.

First, this bill would vacate the conviction of Louis Riel. Second, it would recognize Mr. Riel as a father of Confederation, a point that I have made in the House of Commons in addressing a government motion of 1992.

(Motions deemed adopted, bill read the first time and printed.)

Petitions April 22nd, 1997

Madam Speaker, I am pleased to present this petition on behalf of many Manitobans.

The petitioners ask members of Parliament to remove the GST from books, magazines and newspapers, an idea I have supported for a long time and still do.

Manpower Training April 21st, 1997

Mr. Speaker, last Wednesday, the Prime Minister of Canada and the premier of Manitoba signed the Canada-Manitoba agreement on labour market development.

This agreement, the fourth federal-provincial agreement signed, is extremely important for my province, and includes important differences in services in the language of the official minority, in this case French. The province of Manitoba will provide these services where numbers warrant, in accordance with the Official Languages Act.

In addition, the province is committed to making best efforts to maintain support of the French language community of Manitoba by using its own policy in French language services.

This agreement shows that the federal government is committed to working in partnership with the province in order to improve services to Canadians, and the province appears ready to do its fair share for its citizens.

Committees Of The House April 15th, 1997

Mr. Speaker, I have the honour to present, in both official languages, the 11th report of the Standing Committee on Finance.

Pursuant to the order of reference made on April 10, 1997, the committee approved Bill C-92, an act to amend the Income Tax Act, the Income Tax Application Rules and another act related to the Income Tax Act, and agreed to report it as amended.

St. Boniface Schools April 14th, 1997

Mr. Speaker, I rise today to draw attention to two schools in my riding. From Minnetonka School, a grade six class has taken the time to raise concerns on the environment and the future of forests in Canada. I congratulate it for this worthy and extremely important initiative.

Second, the Guyot school recently received a major award for its environmental work. The Seeds Canada Foundation gave its awards to students at Guyot because they finished more than 1,000 environmental projects that had been started by students over the years.

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Ecole Guyot is the only school in Manitoba to be given this award. These students should be proud of their commitment to a healthier and greener environment.

Congratulations to Guyot and Minnetonka for their dedication to a healthier environment.

Commonwealth Day March 12th, 1997

Mr. Speaker, Monday was Commonwealth Day.

This year's theme "Talking to One Another" is closely linked to modern day technology as we celebrate the countless ways we now have to communicate.

This high technology enables Commonwealth citizens to exchange ideas in various ways, including distance education and exchange programs.

Of course, having more ways of communicating does not automatically bring improvements. Talking to one another is not a one way process. We can explain our own points of view but we must also listen to the views of others, something that all parliamentarians should do, including myself.

Whatever the method of communication we choose, we must keep speaking and listening to one another so that Canada and the Commonwealth, and the whole planet of course can prosper.