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Crucial Fact

  • Her favourite word was saint.

Last in Parliament May 2004, as Progressive Conservative MP for Saint John (New Brunswick)

Won her last election, in 2000, with 51% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Youth Criminal Justice Act May 5th, 1999

Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the opportunity to speak to Bill C-68 today.

It frightens me when I see what is happening these days. I think all my colleagues in the House have been shocked over what happened in Taber, Alberta, and in Colorado. We ask ourselves what has gone wrong. This did not happen when I was growing up as a child or when I was in high school.

Some time down the road whatever party is in government will have to address the charter of rights and freedoms because responsibilities were left out when it was drafted. Today everybody has their rights and their freedoms but for some reason we do not feel we have responsibilities, and we do.

To be fair to our young people, they have to know that they are accountable for what they do and that they have responsibilities. Someone said to me that no one would have the courage to even mention that. I have the courage to mention it. I pray that some day we will have a government that will address it.

I worked as an assistant to a pastor in a church back in Saint John, New Brunswick. Every night I would go home with a headache and so would he. One day I said to him “Reverend Dan, do you go home with a headache every evening?” He said “Yes, I do”. I said “Do you know what is wrong with us”, and he said “No”.

I told him I would take him out in the alleyway the next day at noon hour and he would see a man who was giving drugs to high school children. I said: “There must be about 35 of them. This has to stop”. He said “Elsie”, and I said “I have been watching”. It was marijuana.

I hear on the Hill about the possibility of decriminalizing smaller amounts of marijuana. I did a lot of research on it out of California and New York City. We do not want to decriminalize marijuana. We want to get children away from it as much as we can, because the minute they start to smoke up it goes into the cells of their brains.

I said to the pastor “Please, Dan, let me bring them in. I will buy the hot dogs. I will buy the pop. The church will not have to pay for it. Let's get them out of that alleyway”.

The first day I went out they all ran but five of them who were pretty cocky little men. They stood there and I said “I will not call the police, but tomorrow before he gives you those drugs, come on in and and eat with me and just talk”.

They did come in. Before we were through we had about 30 young people who came in every day. Later they thanked me for taking them out of the alleyway. They said “He gave it to us. We did not know it would hurt us”.

We asked those young people how they got along with their moms and dads. They did not get along with mom and dad because they were fighting with them to make okay what they were doing. They had guilty consciences.

A few years ago on Christmas eve my doorbell rang at home. A young man was standing there who said “Hi, Mrs. Wayne. How are you?” I said “I am fine. Who are you?” He said “Don't you remember me?” He looked familiar. He said “My name is Terry. Thanks, Mrs. Wayne, for taking me out of the alleyway”. I said “What are you doing today, Terry?” He said “I am a draftsman in Toronto, but if I had not gone out of the alleyway I probably would have been on cocaine or heroin”.

Each and every one of us have a lot to do. Everyone has their rights. Today's family has a difficult time. For some reason when we are here we forget about the traditional family and how mom, dad, nanny and grampy want some help with their children. They want us to adopt laws that are better for the children and will show them the right way.

Over 1.3 million children are living in poverty. I never thought I would ever live to see the day that I would have to stand in the House of Commons and talk about 1.3 million children living in poverty. We have to look at what has happened to society.

I have a little granddaughter and a little grandson. I often call my son and daughter-in-law when I am home and ask what they are watching on TV. My husband and I are in the TV repair business and of course they have TVs in their bedrooms, each one of them. They make sure grampy gets them there. I worry that they see violence and sex on TV which they should not be seeing at their age.

We talk about freedom. Everybody has freedom, but what about those children? Why do we not allow them to be children for a while like we were while growing up?

My party and I are worried about Bill C-68. My colleague from Charlottetown mentioned about when the government took out the port police. I was mayor at the time. I fought it hard because I told them that the minute the port police were gone they would see cocaine and heroin like never before. Members should it in my community. I cannot believe what has happened, I truly cannot.

My party is calling for lowering the minimum age at which young offenders may enter into the youth justice system. If they break the law they should have to take responsibility for it and we should know who they are. They should not be allowed to live next door without their neighbours knowing they are there. Definitely we should go public.

We need some form of rehabilitation. The new youth justice strategy will be administered by child welfare agencies and/or mental health providers. I also worked for many years with the mental health group in Saint John. They are not the ones to help these children. We need to take these children right from the time they are in our arms and build a better foundation for their future.

I do not want the people in mental health to deal with these children. I do not want them to go down that road. I want us to correct the situation right now. Over $6 billion were slashed from transfer payments for health care and social service programs. All of that is gone. My party believes that our focus should be on rehabilitation programs for young offenders which put the emphasis on basic education, social skills, personal responsibility and community. We must develop the programs.

The funding cuts have also affected the programs in place for early prevention of youth crime, but I say and will always say that if we help make the family unit stronger and protect it up here there will not be the youth crime we see today. Youth crime needs to be a major focus for our communities. Something needs to be done about the young people who have no regard for the laws of this great country. We need to help them that see there is another way to achieve goals.

I was at our airport in Ottawa at 6.40 Tuesday morning going home. I saw the police pulling up. I wondered what had happened. There was a mother at the airport. She was as high as a kite and she had her child with her. Members should have seen that little child's face. He was saying “Please, mother, please”. They took her out and put her in the police car, and the child was crying. That child does not have any hope for the future. There is no hope for the future because the mother has gone in the wrong direction.

All of us in the House know that our children are our future. We need to make sure they are secure and successful and become proud, productive members of society. It is our duty, each and everyone of us here, to help them stay on the right road. When they do not, we must take responsibility for not having helped, for not having adopted the right policies for them, and have a plan for dealing with them that is fair and makes them responsible for their actions.

Bill C-68 does not do that. I am sorry to say that and I ask my colleagues to take a second look at it.

Supply May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, I want to thank my colleague from the NDP for his presentation and his full support.

What is most disturbing to me, and I am probably the most non-political person who sits in the House of Commons, are the letters which the Minister of Industry wrote when he was the industry critic, replying to people who were working in the shipyards. They got in touch with him when he was in opposition and his reply was “Please be assured that the shipbuilding industry is a priority for me as it is for my caucus colleagues”, and he said that they would be doing something about the situation.

A lot of families are breaking up. There were 200 people in my riding who were asked to go to Louisiana, U.S.A., to work. They were told they were the best shipbuilders who had been interviewed from around the world. I am really concerned about what is happening.

I know that our boys back home have sat down with the owners of our shipyard. They have made concessions. They will do whatever is necessary to bring work into the shipyard.

Does my colleague think that we could honestly, all of us collectively, convince our colleagues on the government side that they should agree with and adopt the motion? Then they could come to us and say that they agree there has to be a new shipbuilding policy. They could say that they will take steps to bring intergovernmental affairs, finance and industry together to see what could be worked out. They could take the credit for that. All we want to do is put our people back to work and give them their dignity.

Does my hon. colleague think we could convince them today to do this?

Supply May 3rd, 1999

When? Do you have a time?

Supply May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, I have a couple of questions on the OECD and the agreement in 1981. I have been led to understand that the only country abiding by the OECD agreement of 1981 is Canada. None of the other countries are abiding by those rules and regulations.

The member said that there was a new agreement in 1994, but it has not been signed by the U.S. We have not signed it either because the U.S. has not signed it. The 1981 agreement still applies. I wonder why the WTO is not dealing with this issue. All the other countries have opted away from that agreement and are doing their own thing. I ask my hon. colleague to address that point.

Supply May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, I get the feeling that my colleagues on the government side are going to vote against our motion.

What I would like to see is them voting for our motion and then taking the steps stated by the hon. member: to sit down with the World Trade Organization and talk over with the OECD how exactly we can change these thing. That can come from this new shipbuilding policy which we are talking about.

I want to clarify something for the member. When we talk about the new construction ships built in Canadian shipyards being excluded from the present Revenue Canada leasing regulations, what we are saying is that under the current rules, the company pays more taxes in the first several years which runs counter to the actual economies of owning and operating a ship to the useful life of the ship.

Under the proposed change that we have mentioned, the company would pay most of the taxes toward the end of the useful life of the ship. We are saying that it would get it all, but this is what the industry is saying to us.

I am asking members to assist and help us. Let us all work together to come up with a national shipbuilding policy that will help all of our people throughout Canada. I ask my colleague to look at that in a positive way.

Supply May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, the minister knows that the shipbuilding industry and its representatives have been to see us as they have been to see him. One of the things they want us to ask the minister to do is to give new construction ships built in Canadian shipyards exclusion from the present Revenue Canada leasing regulations. They wanted four things, but felt that if only that one thing could take place it may put them in a position to compete. My shipyard in Saint John has bid on over 50 contracts but cannot compete in any way, shape or form as it is today. They are saying that if they got just that one thing maybe they could compete and put their people back to work.

Taber, Alberta May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, less than a week ago the nation was sent into a state of shock over hearing about the random shooting at the W. R. Myers High School in Taber. Sadly we also received word that one of the young men, Jason Lang, had passed away.

Today, a family, a community and a country are burying one of their own. On this sad day I would like to call on all Canadians to look into their hearts and to say a prayer for the family that is suffering. These families, especially the Lang family, will live every day with the pain of this event. It will become an ache that they will learn to deal with but know will never subside. Through their daily lives they will carry the spirit of Jason with them in all they do.

As Jason's father Reverend Lang stated a few days ago “it is like a piece of your heart is gone and it will never come back”. The Bible states blessed are those with a pure heart because they will see God. Today Reverend Lang stated that Jason has definitely seen God.

The country has seen the strength and courage of one family dealing with the utmost pain, and today we are witnesses to a wounded community healing itself.

During the memorial service today Reverend Lang said “Jesus is weeping with this community today”. Not only is he weeping. Jesus is asking us to look at our lives and see what is really important to us. We must open our hearts to one another and we must learn to love. We must not hate and we must not allow hate to take over our schools and make them a breeding ground for other such incidents to happen.

The prayers of the country are with the Lang family and the community of Taber, Alberta. I ask my colleagues today to stand for a moment of silence and a wee prayer for all of them, the families of Taber and the families of Colorado.

Shipbuilding May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, I will tell the minister and everyone in the House that we are not asking for subsidies.

What they are asking for is the same tax incentives used in other industries such as the high tech and research and development sectors.

Thousands of Canadians could go back to work if the shipbuilding industry were treated with fairness. Will the minister do the right thing and treat this industry with the same respect his department treats other industries?

Shipbuilding May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, Canada's low productivity has recently been criticized. We all know high taxes and ineffective policies kill productivity.

We just have to look at the shipbuilding industry as an example. Soon this industry will have zero productivity in Canada. Why? Because the government has failed to implement a national shipbuilding policy.

Will the Minister of Industry act on his party's policies adopted at its 1993 and 1998 conventions and implement a new national shipbuilding policy and put Canadians back to work?

Supply May 3rd, 1999

Mr. Speaker, it was brought to my attention that the present Minister of Finance said “I fought to have my ships built in Canada but was unable to convince the government of the need for an aggressive shipbuilding policy and if we are not going to do that, we cannot be a factor in commercial shipping”. The present Minister of Finance stated that he had his ships built in Brazil because Canada does not have a national shipbuilding policy whereby we can be competitive.

The present Prime Minister when in opposition said that we have to have a new national shipbuilding policy, that we have to keep that resource going. The present Minister of Industry when he was a critic kept saying that he was for a national shipbuilding policy. Now he says it is not part of his agenda.

I congratulate the hon. member on his presentation and I thank him for it. Does he see any support whatsoever from the present government sitting in the House of Commons today for a national shipbuilding policy to put our people back to work, to give them their dignity and to make us competitive?