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  • His favourite word was nisga'a.

Last in Parliament October 2019, as Liberal MP for Kenora (Ontario)

Lost his last election, in 2019, with 30% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Cn Commercialization Act June 20th, 1995

Madam Speaker, I should like to make a couple of quick comments and then ask the member some questions.

I have one comment about the Prime Minister's decision to allow CN to be privatized. It is pretty well known in this place, and the Prime Minister has said it publicly many times, that he does not always get his way. If cabinet makes a decision, like the rest of us who believe in the party process he will support the majority of opinion. That is difficult on that side over there where they try to play the smoke and mirrors game of their leader letting them do what they like when we all know he is probably the most draconian person in the place when it comes to not letting his members do what they want.

From a railroader's perspective and being the only railroader in the House, I have a bit of an advantage over my colleague from Calgary. He talked about the fact that there was problem with having Montreal designated as the place to keep CN headquarters.

Reformers continually tell us that they use the age old ability to find out what people think by going out and consulting. I was on the transport committee. My colleague opposite was also on the committee. We listened to many people talk about the effects of Montreal being the headquarters. We asked the investment bankers what they thought. The gentleman opposite being a business person would know that bankers are important people to ask. What did they say? They said that there would be no effect.

Let me tell the House why. What is in Montreal at head office? There is a central calling bureau for railroaders. For people out there who do not know, it is a huge enterprise where every railroader who works for CN is called. It is a major undertaking that cost CN some $30 million to put into place in the last few years. To have that completely changed and transferred to another system would cost millions of dollars. Also, at CN or CP there is a central power bureau where every locomotive in the country is designated for a particular train or a particular piece of track. One would think it was outer space with all the technology involved there. To move the whole process to Edmonton or Calgary would cost the corporation literally millions of dollars.

It would not cost a cent of the sale of CN to maintain the headquarters in Montreal. Quite frankly it is good business practice to do so. Therefore the investment bankers have said to us that there is no problem.

On the 15 per cent retention I want to comment that CP, a privately owned company, does not have a restriction. In fact the most of CP owned by an individual is 11 per cent.

Investment bankers are saying on the one hand that there is no cost effect to having Montreal designated as the headquarters. In fact it would be worse if we tried to leave it open and someone suggested for political reasons because of the sovereignist and separatist problems in Montreal that we should move it. It would hurt the company if someone suggested it for political reasons. Leaving it there for stability reasons is a much more appropriate process.

CP is a private corporation. It has never had anyone purchase more than 11 per cent of the company. Investment bankers do not believe the 15 per cent limitation will have any effect on the sale.

Why would the Reform Party be so adamant that they are impediments to the sale and getting a good price for CN when they are not by reason of sound investment bankers, consultations the government has made and what we have heard as a committee from witnesses? Is that not what the Reform Party says it is all about: if people tell us it makes good sense then do it? We have been told it makes good sense. Why is the Reform Party not supporting that when everyone we have talked to says that it makes good sense and it will not affect the sale price?

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I would also like to be recorded as voting against Motion No. 227.

Firearms Act June 12th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I am voting in favour of Motion No. 10, if that is the motion we are voting on now.

Supply June 7th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, why would he think, as the Reformers would think, that Canadians would believe it when the Reform Party says it could reduce the debt and the deficit all in one fell swoop in a three-year program and at the same time maintain jobs and growth? This is what it is saying to us, that the 400,000 jobs that were created this last year would continue to be in effect at the same time as we would take some $40 billion from the economy.

I would like the hon. member to explain to us the Reform's rationale if he could and why the Liberal Party does not seem to accept that. Not even 10 per cent of Canadians accept that, as we could tell in the last election campaign.

Supply June 7th, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I congratulate my colleague for a very good speech, one that relates to the Canadian public the difference between the Liberal Party and the parties opposite.

Many of us on this side believe governments have a role to play and that governments can have a positive impact on the lives of individuals. We do not have to pull back to the point at which everyone is left to their own devices to get back to the lifestyles we had a number of years ago.

Can my colleague explain to us some of the positive aspects of the Asian tour he mentioned relating to what the federal government has done in relation to jobs in his riding? What did the Asian tour do for the job creation initiative he talked about? How much federal money is involved in the process of the Prime Minister and the ministers of the provinces when they went as Team Canada to sell our products to the rest of the world?

Bill S-7 June 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I have the honour and privilege to present in both official languages the sixth report of the Standing Committee on Natural Resources, concerning Bill S-7, better known as the Kenny bill, an act to accelerate the use of alternative fuels for motor vehicles, with amendments.

The Budget March 14th, 1995

It is coming. Don't be disappointed.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I want to quickly say to my colleague and to other colleagues in the House that federalism is by far one of the best systems in the world. There is a reason for that. The reason federalism works so well and why other countries wish they had a federal system like ours is because it is fluid. It is not static. The reason federalism works is its ability to be flexible.

Anyone who has analysed where we were when we first became the country of Canada and where we are today with the changes that have taken place has found that we have been able to adapt to tremendous change when necessary. It is the reason this country has been so successful.

If this government keeps on track the way the finance minister has been going, I predict as I did in the last election that by the end of the 1990s we will have our deficit under control. We will be paying off our debt. We will be back on track. We will still be the best country in the world. Our fiscal and monetary policy will be back to where it would have been had we not had that 10 years of Tory rule which messed it all up for us.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, as I have on numerous occasions in this place, let me make very clear to my friend across the way that I do not come from central Canada. I come from western Canada. I happen to be the member of Parliament for Kenora-Rainy River, which is in a vast riding in northern Ontario. It is on central time and is so close to Winnipeg we have very western ideas. The riding has been voting Liberal long before I was alive and, yes, there was a Reform candidate who ran in my riding. He was lucky to get his deposit back, the lucky soul that he was.

I can assure this House that my riding, being of very western flavour, believing very strongly in Canada's social programs and fabric, would not have been voting Liberal since the turn of the century if it did not believe in Liberal principles.

If this budget, as is being suggested by the member, were not a Liberal budget I would have heard about it first and foremost in my riding because my riding, as I said, only voted one other way in its history and that was when it lost its way in 1984 when everybody was foolish enough to vote Tory and it went with the

NDP. I can assure members that my constituents learned their lesson that one time and now have gone back to the Liberal fold.

I have received five phone calls on the budget from people who were concerned about social programs. The remainder of the people in my riding have called to say this is a great budget because it sends us down the track. It also recognizes that we did not get into the mess in three years, like the Reform Party seems to suggest, and we will not get out of it in three years as it suggests.

It took us 20 years to get into it and it will take us some time to get out of it. We should use our good, common sense and not tear and gut the heart and soul out of Canada by doing that, but take our time and restructure the economy the way it should be restructured.

Borrowing Authority Act, 1995-96 March 2nd, 1995

Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of one of the toughest budgets in Canadian history. A tough budget was needed to keep the country on track. It is a budget that Canadians have been calling on the government to table and I am proud to stand in my place today to support it.

We have answered the demands of Canadians with a tough but fair budget. We have taken the necessary fiscal action in a sensitive manner that addresses the priorities of all Canadians. No doubt there is pain involved, but the pain does not hit like a sledgehammer. A sledgehammer would devastate everything around the target. Rather, it is like a bow and arrow. We hit the targets dead on without devastating everything around us.

This budget is the arrow that will hit our deficit target without destroying the foundation we have built.

That is the difference between the budget that was tabled by the finance minister on Monday versus the budget we saw by the Reform Party the week previous. You can cut, but there are ways to cut. I would emphasize that this is the difference between the Liberal Party philosophy and the one across the way.

The 1995-96 the federal budget has gained widespread support. Yes, there is opposition that this budget is too strong or does not go far enough or will spell the end of Canadian society as we know it. The answers to those criticisms are easily found.

The budget comes down squarely at a crossroad for this country. It must be a strong budget as Canada meets the economic and fiscal challenges leading into the next century. If this budget went any further, slashing and burning government spending with reckless abandon, that is just where Canadians would find themselves, abandoned by their government.

As I said before, Liberals do not abandon people. By taking this sensible approach to our fiscal situation, it is this government that will ensure social programs and basic services remain apart of Canadian society.

This is a make or break budget for our deficit situation. We must not impede economic recovery and the potential for growth. By taking the steps contained in this budget, we are directly acting on our fiscal position so that Canada can maintain and not destroy the universal social programs that define this nation.

This budget must satisfy demands of international markets, a reality of living in a global trade environment. The financial community quickly graded this budget with high marks.

Interest rates have dropped and our dollar immediately climbed in the markets. The government did not panic. We listened to Canadian taxpayers, to international markets, to dozens and dozens of interest groups. Then we acted with sensible, intelligent and compassionate approaches.

We are, as the finance ministers says, breaking the back of the deficit. The international community has acknowledged we are on the right track. Many of my constituents have told me that they are impressed with this budget. Canadians obviously approve.

The budget takes necessary steps to secure Canada's fiscal position. The federal budget is just strong enough. The minister of finance has found the right mix of spending cuts and revenue measures to ensure a fiscal trend of deficit reduction.

This budget significantly reduces government spending but is crafted in a way that is fair to all regions of the country. We must bring our finances in order. To do that Canadians everywhere must share, quite frankly, in the price we must pay for fiscal responsibility.

I hasten to add that sharing in the cost of reducing our deficit will not involve paying more tax. We will meet and exceed our deficit reduction targets without an increase in personal taxes.

The government has taken on the challenge of fiscal prudence while maintaining steady economic growth. This is not an easy task. Our choice is to fundamentally change the structure of government. Our focus is on reduced spending and a smaller, smarter government.

I have been a long time supporter of our public sector service. The reality we face as Canadians, and one that must be shared by our public servants, is that government must be streamlined. The public sector must find a way to become more efficient. It is a tough assignment but I am confident that Canada's public servants can bring government into the next century.

If anyone is capable of meeting that challenge, it is the men and women working in the public sector. These professionals are embarking on a difficult transition. I urge our public servants, many of whom I know personally, to apply their skills and to contribute to Canada's future.

We all know that the public sector will lose about 45,000 positions, but last year alone there were almost a half a million new jobs created in Canada. The objective of this delicate budget is to bring the government house in order without upsetting the balance of economic stimulus. A healthy economy will provide jobs for skilled people such as those who will be leaving the public service.

Government supports the creation of new jobs but it is business that does most of the hiring. We will realize savings from cutbacks in government spending but there is also increased revenue from newly created jobs.

My riding is located in northwestern Ontario. It is a region of Canada that can be used as an example of how the budget will impact Canadians. Northwestern Ontario will suffer from spending cuts and revenue measures. We will lose forestry and mining developing funding shared by the federal and provincial governments. The decrease in dairy subsidies will affect us and the gasoline tax will hurt.

I realize, as my constituents do, that we will survive. I think everyone of us realizes that we have to share the burden in one way or another. My riding has never depended on government for its survival. I think the majority of my constituents would rather see government get its act together instead of receiving a handout.

Northwestern Ontario has carved an economic foundation from the resource sectors such as forestry, mining and tourism.

Comprehensive diversification of our regional economy is a long term goal which is progressing.

I am encouraged that this budget, while reducing or eliminating subsidies, is keeping business support programs in place. Small business loans, export and marketplace services and technology support all remain a part of the federal mandate. We are also optimistic about the future of tourism initiatives that have become a federal priority.

The relationship between small business and the banking sector has been a longstanding concern in my riding. When I was in opposition it was something we talked about on numerous occasions, that small business is still not getting a fair shake from the financial institutions in the country.

In the budget the access to capital for the reasonable ventures essential to the economic growth in my region is again going to be a priority of the finance minister. I am still hopeful that sooner or later the banks in this country will realize that without them we cannot get this economy rolling to the extent we believe it can.

Recent increases in the Small Business Loans Act are a positive sign. A region such as northwestern Ontario is dictated by unique circumstances. I also feel the privatization of crown corporations will be received well in this House and in the riding I represent.

I chaired a government task force to study the future of the Canadian National Railway. The commercialization of CN is one of the recommendations in our final report. This action and other commercializations such as Petro-Canada has great potential for the private sector. It puts business in the hands of business people and leaves government with the task of regulating, not operating.

The fearmongering on the issue of social programs is something I want touch on a little. The issue of Canada social transfers does not hold much water in my riding. If we changed the system my constituents would applaud that simply because they are not satisfied with the current structure of social programs as they exist today.

Like many members of the House, I have conducted a survey on social security. The overwhelming response was that social policy must change. This budget sets social policy changes in motion and I applaud that. Once again, the government has not pressed the panic button.

The other side tends to press the panic button to make people concerned about the fact that we are not moving quickly enough. Those who have been here around here a little longer will realize that if we take our time and put the right programs in place those will be the programs that will survive the test of time and they are the kinds of programs that built this country and made it the great place we live in.

If we are to change our system we have to make sure it is a change for the better and not for the worse.

This budget makes it clear that this party is responsible for universal social programs in Canada. It will be this party that brings social policy into the 21st century. Of course the only way we will do that is to ensure we can afford it and this budget does just that.

This is a responsible budget. We are attacking the deficit but we are planning our attack without undue casualties. The social fabric of our nation will survive. We are setting a responsible pace of deficit reduction to preserve economic growth and stability.