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  • His favourite word was fact.

Last in Parliament March 2011, as Conservative MP for Kootenay—Columbia (B.C.)

Won his last election, in 2008, with 60% of the vote.

Statements in the House

Law Commission Of Canada Act March 27th, 1996

Is he a lawyer? We listen to him talk and talk and talk so he must be a lawyer.

We have seen the Minister of Justice begin politicizing our courts by several of his recent appointments of defeated Liberal candidates and Liberal riding presidents to the benches.

I am going to deal with the issue of patronage in detail at the conclusion of my speech but I am still working to develop this case. Actually I do not have to work to develop this case. It is so obvious.

The Minister of Justice will have to be consulted before the agenda of the commission is set. As was pointed out by my colleague, the hon. member for Calgary North, this is very clearly not an arm's length organization. Is it not really just Liberal logic to say that these people are independent-

Law Commission Of Canada Act March 27th, 1996

Is he a lawyer?

Law Commission Of Canada Act March 27th, 1996

Madam Speaker, in looking at this bill, I have been trying to figure out what it is that the Liberals are attempting to accomplish. The thesis of my speech today is Liberal patronage.

The question has to be asked: Where is the money coming from that will create the new agency whose work is already being done by the justice department? When the law reform commission was abolished some of the funding was redirected to the justice department. Is the $3 million for this new commission coming from the justice department which is already doing that type of work? Will there be a cut in the department's budget to make way for the new commission?

It is rather instructive to look at what was said by the previous government when it cut the law commission. The Hon. Gilles Loiselle, President of the Treasury Board and Minister of State for Finance on April 30, 1992 said:

The Law Reform Commission was created in 1971. It has played a useful role in conducting an ongoing review of the statutes of Canada, in co-ordinating non-governmental research on legal issues, and in providing independent advice to the Minister of Justice.

The government has concluded, however, that these functions can be fulfilled without maintaining a separate organization. Responsibility for commissioning outside research will be assigned to the Department of Justice, with the minister and the department seeking the views of researchers and practitioners in universities and elsewhere. The Law Reform Commission will accordingly be wound up and any necessary continuing resources transferred to the Department of Justice.

The Liberals are trying to make work for their Liberal lawyer friends and are revisiting the Liberal law reform commission. Where did the $3 million come from? Did it come from the resources that were returned to the justice department by the previous Conservative government or has the government just dug a little bit deeper into the trough so that it can reward its Liberal lawyer friends?

By eliminating the law reform commission in 1992 the government of the day was moving toward eliminating duplication. My Liberal friends of today do not necessarily understand the concept of eliminating duplication, particularly if they can be setting up more boards to employ more Liberals.

The government wants to bring the law commission back. Much of the work can be done by the justice department which has far greater resources. I refer to comments by Peter McCreath who was Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of State (Finance and Privatization) on April 30, 1992. He said:

It is not as if the kind of work that has been done by the Law Reform Commission of Canada will cease if the law reform commission ceases to exist. It is very important that kind of research continues to take place-

Law reform is possible in Canada even without the Law Reform Commission.

In the name of logic, are the Liberals of today actually saying that the work previously being done by the law reform commission over the last four years has not been done? That is a little bit of a stretch in terms of credulity.

I am trying to drive home the reason why the Liberals of today are trying to bring this back for their Liberal lawyer friends. The members of this new commission will be order in council appointees. It may be another chance to let the few remaining Liberal supporters in this country who do not have government jobs get on the government payroll. In short, the commission has the opportunity to be a haven for political appointees.

I would like the member for Kingston and the Islands, who loves to kibitz on this, to directly refute that this commission will not be a place to put the wonderful Liberal lawyer friends of this government today. In fact that is the reason why this is being redone.

Canada Transportation Act March 26th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, one of my constituents involved in the tourism industry suggested that rather than me being referred to just as the member for Kootenay East, I be referred to as the member from the part of the beautiful, fabulous, magnificent, sensational, thrilling Canadian Rockies.

I had a look at the old Bill C-101, which was the evil twin of this bill, and found a speech which I had actually prepared for Bill C-101. The design of the bill at first reading was rather interesting because it was designed at a time when it was going to go to a committee. There were things in the speech where we were basically saying: "The difficulty is that we really cannot trust the Liberals in this process because of the way they have been seen to use pile drivers to put nails into boards. We really cannot believe that they are really to be open to the amendments that are required".

What is particularly scary as I reviewed this speech, which I should note I never had the opportunity to give, is that I realized that virtually everything in this speech came to pass. Therefore I go ahead.

I come from a riding which relies heavily on rail transport. Mining and forestry combine to make up a substantial part of the economy in Kootenay East. It is understandable that when I had my office contact companies in my constituency for their opinions on the bill we were inundated with responses. I have compiled a substantial amount of information. We received from some companies detailed amendments to the bill which I will outline in my remarks.

Before I carry on, as I say, this was a speech which was intended to be made at first reading in the hopes that the Liberals would actually follow through on their word and would make this a workable process and make the legislation better. However, they did not. All of the companies responding to our request for

information made it clear they feel strongly that the bill is vital to maintain and enhance competition in Canada's railways.

One forest product company in my riding told our constituency office that it no longer ships its plywood and lumber by rail. Rather than be captive to rail, this company trucks its plywood to Calgary. From there, it is shipped down east by rail but the company has a choice of railways in Calgary.

For the past several years this company has shipped its lumber by truck south to the U.S. to be loaded in rail cars there. It is just a matter of 30 miles south of the U.S. border, which is the bottom of my constituency, where there are two U.S. rail companies that have freight yards.

The person we talked to said that it was cheaper to go through that whole process than to simply put the wood on rail cars to the point of origin. Lumber is also shipped east directly by truck.

I do not blame this company for taking these measures to maintain and retain its position as a viable company. However, having said that, I have to point out the pounding of our park roads and the pounding they are taking in my constituency.

In my constituency I have Yoho National Park and Radium Hot Springs. They sit adjoining Banff and Jasper Parks. Highway 1 goes through there and the amount of traffic that goes across there, plus Highway 16 through Jasper, is growing. It is absolutely immense. The pounding that is going on on those roads is beyond all comprehension. However, the companies are forced to take these moves, to do these things which are really deleterious and detrimental to the parks and to the environment of the parks because of the ongoing legislation of the Tories and the Liberals.

This issue happens to fit hand in glove with the issue of funding our national parks. As a critic of the heritage department, one of the largest concerns I have is how we will continue to fund these roads and continue to make them safe. That is an issue which is directly related to the issue of rail and this rail act.

In the southeast corner of British Columbia, the out valley in my constituency, coal country, there is deep concern about the proposal to eliminate the railway statutory common carrier obligations. The people vehemently oppose this proposal since it would practically render competitive access provisions ineffective. It is extremely important that legislative reform allow Canadian shippers to have access to a truly competitive transportation environment so that our goods can get to world markets at globally competitive prices.

Another coal company in the same area said that the threat to competitive rail prices lies in the overtaxation taking place on rail companies. This example could also be attributed to the forest product company that I mentioned earlier. Canadian railways are taxed at a rate of 53 per cent more than the U.S. and this bill does nothing to address this serious problem.

As a Reform MP, I am dedicated to give credit for any positives if they exist. In this case there are a few places where I can comment on the brighter aspects of this bill. My understanding is that one aspect of the bill, actually supported by a majority of shippers and the Reform Party, is the ability of railways to abandon track that is no longer economically viable. The reason for this is that shippers hope that a more cost efficient railway will eventually translate into benefits for them.

We could also see smaller private rail companies pick up these abandoned tracks and operate them with low overhead and a higher rate of return. However, there are many negatives. As mentioned, smaller private rail companies could take over the operation of smaller track lines. However, this could mean tracks located within provincial boundaries would not fall under the new Canada Transportation Act but instead be regulated under provincial jurisdiction.

A classic example, in this case in my constituency, is where the CP Rail track comes through the Crow's Nest Pass, passes through Sparwood on its way to Fernie on its way to the coast. The difficulty is that the spur line which services three mines, two of which are not associated with CP Rail, would be at the mercy of the following little activity.

If CP Rail said it wants to abandon this line and does so and a subsidiary of CP Rail picks up the line, then these two companies, which are not associated with CP Rail, would come under the direct power of the subsidiary company of CP Rail. This would mean that it would be able to charge the rates it wanted to and the Canada Transportation Act would not apply. They would come under provincial jurisdiction. There is much concern on the part of the people in my constituency over that little sleight of hand.

Unfortunately, many provinces have no or inadequate legislation to deal with rail transport. This bill has made an attempt to deal with this problem but it has been unable to rectify it. Smaller rail lines or short lines would be of possible benefit in regard to service and rates but there remains the fact that short lines will still have to feed on to the main line of CP or CN Rail. These companies therefore do not lose the traffic, just the costs of running it, over the now abandoned or sold lines. This leaves the shipper now having to negotiate rates with two separate companies. In the example I just gave we can see how that could become very convoluted and anti-competitive.

A final concern on short line operators is the possibility of main line railways using the availability of abandonment as a threat

during rate negotiations. This would leave the shipper forced to make a deal rather than lose access to the main line.

Other concerns have been outlined for us with respect to the increasing lack of recourse a shipper has at its disposal to obtain relief to a transportation rate or service.

In section 27(2) a shipper is required to demonstrate that it will suffer significant prejudice if the relief sought is not otherwise available. There is concern first that the term "significant prejudice" is not defined in the bill, nor is it a term which has been introduced or verbalized in the previous railways legislation.

I see from my notes that in spite of the fact that shippers have lobbied hard to have this clause deleted from the bill and the government had recently seemed to be coming around on this concept, it nonetheless quickly extinguished Reform's motion at report stage which called for the deletion of section 27(2). As I said at the outset of my speech, the difficulty we on this side of the House have is that the words of the Liberal government very frequently do not match the reality of what it actually follows through on.

Further, section 34(1) of the proposed legislation enables the agency to award damages against a shipper should it be found that an application is frivolous or vexatious. Unfortunately, this will leave many shippers spending a lot of time and money trying to determine whether or not there is a valid argument.

Section 40(3) of the National Transportation Act, 1987 enables the agency to grant an interim injunction in an appropriate case. This provision does not appear in the bill. If this provision is not included in the bill, and it is not, it will mean that unsatisfactory service will remain intact until a final determination is made by the agency.

I also note that clause 112 of the bill does not clearly define the terms of commercially fair and reasonable. The language of this clause should be defined as a rate which does not cause either party to operate below cost. The reality is that the government has been unwilling to amend or delete this clause. A motion put forward at report stage to delete clause 112 was also shot down by the government despite the vocal concerns expressed by the shippers.

It really makes me wonder. In this and in past debates I have observed the Liberals consistently talking about how they would change the system to make it fair, balanced and equitable. They have said they would expedite the system, when clearly all they do is turn around, give us the words and give us the very old Liberal actions which date back to 1867.

One forest company in my riding said that it spent $6 million a year on rail transportation. It fears because of the points I have just raised that it will be at the mercy of the rail line which will most likely face increased rates with the implementation of this bill.

This was the concluding paragraph in my previous speech: In conclusion, it is important that we see substantial amendments

some of which are included in the legislation. However, because of the intricacies and potential impact of this legislation, and the fact that this Liberal government has yet to exhibit an ability to listen and understand the concern of Canadians, the legislative process for this legislation is suspect. We are hoping we are wrong, but fear we are right. One thing Canadians can count on, as Canada's national opposition, the Reform Party is going to become extreme in its vigilance to see that the government really listens.

We tried. We really did try as we try on so many issues. No matter what the issue is, we try to make the government listen but the government will not listen. It has an aggressive growing arrogance. Sooner or later, Liberal members are going to be revealed for the people they truly are.

This legislation is not only badly flawed but additionally, the legislative process it went through was a joke.

Communications March 26th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, in reality, if we take a look at the DTH decision which was made last week and the fact that cabinet was not prepared to overrule the policy decision which the CRTC made, basically what happened was that cabinet put the Canadian industry at a disadvantage to the American industry.

Can the minister give us an idea of when he and the heritage minister will finally get their act together and make some decisions that are going to make competition by Canadian companies for Canadian business a reality in Canada?

Communications March 26th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, the tug of war in cabinet over foreign ownership in broadcasting and telecommunications is well known.

The heritage minister wants to go back to 1967 and the industry minister wants to move ever so slowly, of course, into the 21st century.

My question is for the industry minister. Consumer and industry advocates are demanding a coherent telecommunications policy, which is why I am asking him the question. When are we going to get one?

Privilege March 13th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, the answer lies in the hon. member's question. The Speaker of the House said that this is such a serious issue that the delay is a moot point. That is a ruling of the Speaker and as such it becomes a precedent in this House. I suggest the member be careful that he not question the rulings of the Chair.

Privilege March 13th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, this is really a kind of star spangled night. Not only can I agree with the Liberal member, I can agree with the member from the Bloc, if in fact he is correct which my colleagues tell me he is, that the Speaker has said that we were going to have the opportunity to have freedom of speech in this House of Commons for a change, unlike what the Liberals usually do to us and have actually gone back on their word. So it is really no surprise to be able to have that agreement.

I will quote from the communiqué. The Quebec military will "respect the people's decision and will transfer their loyalty to the new country whose security they will ensure". I repeat, transfer their loyalty. Those are the words from the communiqué. Loyalty is defined as allegiance, faithfulness, devotion, fidelity, attachment and patriotism. On the other hand, sedition is defined as revolt, rebellion, revolution, insurrection, mutiny, unrest, riot, uprising, defiance and disobedience. I suggest that on the words of defiance and disobedience we have a case made for mutiny and sedition.

Privilege March 13th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, that is good. I found a Liberal member I can agree with. He is absolutely right.

The timing of this and the duplicity of the separatists during the referendum was absolutely monumental. On one side of the coin, we had a letter going out to the Canadian Armed Forces. On the other side of the coin, we had the deputy premier of Quebec sending out letters to the embassies around Ottawa. On the third side of the coin, if there is such a thing, we now have the text of a speech given by the former premier of Quebec which clearly states: "Today you have made a decision. We are out of here. We are gone. We are toast. We are history". The duplicity was absolutely profound.

With the greatest respect, in spite of the fact that I do agree with the point made by the Liberal member, I also point out that if the Liberals had handled this thing correctly and had put proper rules in place before ever going into this referendum, we would not have ended up with the very, very tight vote we had in the first place. More people in Quebec would have understood the real issue. There would have been a greater opportunity of exposing the duplicity that was happening behind the scenes.

Again, I say with sadness to my friend on the Liberal side, I am sorry it is his party that is the Government of Canada, it is his party that is in charge of this issue and it is his party that is blowing the drill.

Privilege March 13th, 1996

Mr. Speaker, there are people in Canada who see those who would take Quebec out of Canada as being the enemies of Canada. Mr. Speaker, I will tell you that I am one of them and I am speaking for those people.

It is incoherent in my judgment to speak of Quebec soldiers when in fact we only have Canadian soldiers who have pledged allegiance to Canada.

The point of my speech was not directed at these people because the separatists are clearly defined. They are proud to be separatists. They are proud to be attempting to break up Canada. They are proud to be trying to take Quebec out of Canada.

I was looking at the Liberal members, who with their duplicity have entered into a pact with the devil. They have turned around and not taken any action to do anything about this. They have never drawn any lines in the sand. They have completely mangled and mismanaged the referendum and then have turned around and blamed everybody from the CBC down through all other areas.

I suggest, although not by intent, I do not question the loyalty of one single solitary member of the Liberal Party, but by their actions, they are in bed with the separatists.