Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you for that. I know you are a very busy man and that you need to get on, so I will finish my questions there. Thank you again for coming in, and for answering that question. I feel as if it helps us move forward. I look forward to the next committee meeting and to discussing the member's motion.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you for your card, Mr. O'Toole, but it looks like we are going to get our last round together, which I'm really excited about. I appreciate your understanding how important it is that intelligence, CSIS, and whatnot meet a threshold. Identifying with that threshold seems to be part of the problem here because I think we all can agree that the process that has happened with regard to you, to MP Kwan and to MP Chong, is just not a threshold that we want to see.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  It's good to get to ask you another round of questions. Mr. O'Toole, I called you Erin first. I apologize if I was too informal. You talked about hoping that Justice Hogue will hear the three questions you asked. Of those three questions, what I found particularly interesting was the concern that there was no interview done after the election with you and your campaign manager.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Well, thank you for that. One of the things that we've heard repeatedly in this study—and then, of course, in our other study on foreign interference in elections—is that there's a threshold of intelligence. Sometimes information is coming in. It has to be assessed, and there's a desire to make sure that it's fulsome before it's actually delivered.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you so much, Erin, for being here with us again. It's good to see you. I think what is very clear in your statement, and also in your service in multiple ways to this country, is that making sure that the trust of Canadians in our institutions is a key focus.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. Those are all my questions.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you so much, Chair. Minister, since you are now Minister of Defence, could you share with us what you carried from this experience to this new role that you play? What steps have you taken to ensure that intelligence from DND is properly disseminated to Global Affairs Canada?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Minister. I really appreciate that, and I understand that Mr. Chong did get a defensive review. It did not give him the information about his family. I think it's important that we don't confuse the two. He's also been very clear that he feels this is something that all MPs should receive, because having that information about how to be perceptive of how you might be targeted really allowed him to have some tools in his tool kit to notice things, but it did not give him the information that he so desperately needed which was poignant to him and his family actually being targeted.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you, Madam Chair. I appreciate the minister's being here today and I congratulate him on his new role. As the representative of 19 Wing, I will also remind him that I have a lot of things to talk to him about, through the chair, and I really look forward to having those discussions to support some truly amazing people who serve our country.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you so much, Chair. This is of particular importance to me as well because one of my members was also targeted. I know that it is a growing concern. I think that as we look at democracy, we have to do all that we can to protect it, and that means protecting the system. Of course, the focus right now is on the election period, which I understand and I think it's important, but we also know there are activities happening in between elections.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think that's going to be the hardest part of the next few years. It's figuring out how to source that information. I understand—and please correct me if I'm wrong—that RRM Canada works with academia and civil society to conduct research. I'm wondering if you could share any information about what those partnerships might look like and what the research is telling us.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  You have nothing.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  That's fair enough. This is my next question for you. I noticed that in your testimony you talked about the fact that information is not emailed, and that it's downloaded, I think you said, printed out and then provided to the people who are supposed to have it. Can you talk about, first of all, why it's not emailed?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Thank you.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Well, I don't know how long it is until the bells—