International Trade committee  Gallivan, I will follow up on that, because the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates in November did some studies on ArriveCAN. They were looking at it, and there were comments with regard to CARM that Deloitte was being put in the “penalty box”. For example, Cameron MacDonald said, “I believe it was not on time and not on budget in terms of where the project milestones were supposed to be.

Public Accounts committee  My understanding is that we never had an ArriveCAN contract. This was all through staff augmentation contracts that were competitively awarded to Dalian on behalf of the CBSA. My understanding is that it was through staff augmentation contracts.

Public Accounts committee  It was at a government office. When was the first time you cashed a cheque, or e-transfer, for your ArriveCAN app work? When was the first time you received payment? You mentioned $4.9 million over three years. What was the date of the first payment receipt?

Public Accounts committee  No. What was the first payment from the government for your work on ArriveCAN?

Public Accounts committee  You got an 18.2% commission rate on the $4.9 million ArriveCAN contract. Is that correct? That's about $890,000 in commission.

International Trade committee  You also say that 75% of this thing works. Again, colour us skeptical on this side. We've seen ArriveCAN. We've seen the Phoenix system, with spending in the billions of dollars. Now you're putting in a blackout period before the program goes out, from April 26 or 29 to May 13. I suspect you're going to have a significantly higher volume of importers wanting to log on to this.

Public Accounts committee  Yeo, getting back to your aborted political career when you were a candidate for the PPC, which is a party that was against vaccine mandates, do you not see any hypocrisy in working on an ArriveCAN app that was designed to track people's vaccine records when you actually didn't believe in the vaccine mandates in the first place and were running for a party that actually took that position?

Public Accounts committee  I think a previous answer was that Dalian, and you personally, did no actual work on the ArriveCAN app. You subcontracted it all. Is that correct that you didn't actually do any actual work on that?

Public Accounts committee  Are you satisfied with your work on ArriveCAN? Do you feel that Canadians got good value for money there?

Public Accounts committee  I'd like to continue with my previous line of questioning. Mr. Yeo, you don't remember exactly how much money you made from the contracts for ArriveCAN. I can help you remember that. The money may have been deposited in accounts in tax havens. According to information uncovered by La Presse, you have opened accounts in tax havens in your name twice since 2011.

Public Accounts committee  —for ArriveCAN. And you said you disagree with the AG's report—

Public Accounts committee  Okay, let's not play games. What did you take home? What was your commission for ArriveCAN? Give me a number, please.

Public Accounts committee  You're going to provide this committee, sir, within seven days, your actual remuneration or bonuses on the ArriveCAN app. Okay?

Public Accounts committee  So if there's a request for what kind of remuneration would have come out of $4.9 million in ArriveCAN, then we will provide that for sure.

Public Accounts committee  We passed it on to GC Strategies, and it floated down to Botler, and they've been not necessarily the kindest to Dalian since. The costing of this is small with respect to the ArriveCan application project.