Citizenship and Immigration committee  —for speaking on behalf of the largest department in the Government of Canada—Employment and Social Development. He is responsible for all the housing programs and social services related to the entry of illegal border crossers into this country. I have asked him what the expenditure, the cost will be to put people in hotels.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I've asked him if he even knows how many illegal border crossers have arrived since his government took office, and so far he has not been able to answer a single one of these questions. Let me ask you another question.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  So you don't know how much that will cost.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  How many years did you spend on Toronto City Council?

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I'm just looking at a study done by the C.D. Howe Institute, an organization formerly headed by your Liberal finance minister, Bill Morneau. It shows that the increased cost of housing in Toronto due to municipal regulation and red tape is $168,000. In other words, red tape that you helped impose in the city of Toronto increases the cost of each single house by $168,000.