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Public Safety committee  I can't really say. I'm sorry.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  Yes, I understand that.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  It depends on the nature of the inquiry or the review. There are times when thousands of pages of documents are being poured over and many, many electronic communications and all sorts of other information is being pursued. If the question is, are we ever denied access, the answer is no.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  I can't be specific about what information we ask them for. The difficulty is that virtually everything we're asking is highly classified information, top secret material in many cases, so I can't give you a description of it.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  Our staff typically go right into the CSIS operations, have access right into their database, their bibliographic reference system, which is the operational database of the entire CSIS operation.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  I believe it's clearly a question that should be asked to CSIS, but if I may, I'll just go back to you about the heads up, that you say everybody should have known about Syria and its reputation for torture. Well, clearly, people all over the world knew that, and the U.S. State Department knew that, yet....

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  I think Canadians win. We have a job to do. It has to be a professional relationship, and he has a job to do and I'm sure he takes it very seriously. We have a job to do, and that's to hold them accountable for their responsibilities and mandate and adhering to it under the CSIS Act, ministerial direction, and obviously their own policy framework that they have to work with.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  Essentially, that's what our submission to O'Connor said. We laid out about ten areas that we believed were really, really important--transparency, access to the information, the credibility and the trust of the review body, and all those things. We laid them out as what we believed was required.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  We hold them to their own standards across the act, obviously--the act, ministerial direction, and their own policies and practices--and if they don't meet those tests.... They have all of these different relationships, as we've just been talking about, memoranda of understanding with so many different organizations worldwide and domestically, and they have to abide by all of the requirements, and that's what we hold them to.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  You're right, it hasn't happened. But I would imagine we would have to go to the minister and just lay the issue of difference on the table and report that we were unable to resolve a matter of importance between us, and there would have to be, obviously, some action taken.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  Look, I'm sorry. I don't want to be difficult, but you've taken about five minutes to ask the question and then you're telling me to give a yes or no answer. Come on.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  I don't think it's a matter of whether or not people made mistakes. We found no evidence that they were involved in his arrest or apprehension and deportation, that's for sure. We do know that, on the request of the Syrian intelligence officials, they did go to interview the Syrian officials.

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon

Public Safety committee  On the leaks, we'll have to wait for the police investigation to find out, but at this point we have no evidence—

November 1st, 2006Committee meeting

Gary Filmon