Veterans Affairs committee  Yes, they are entitled to a pension when they turn 65. They don't get the two-year pension right now. It's a deferred annuity—

Veterans Affairs committee  It's a deferred annuity based on 2% per year of service, which—

Veterans Affairs committee  The 10 years is that presently if you leave before 10 years, you don't get the pension index for life. If you leave the forces after 10 years and you are medically released, you do get a pension for life, indexed at that point in time.

Veterans Affairs committee  I believe we're headed in the right direction now, because they put together the joint personal support units that are in fact a team of Veterans Affairs Canada personnel and military personnel who actually help people transition. Although you say that today you're in the force

Veterans Affairs committee  I don't think we have the latest figures, but we can certainly provide them. We don't have the answer with us now but we could provide it to the committee.

Veterans Affairs committee  That will depend on the new clients of Veterans Affairs Canada. We can certainly make a projection based on those who are currently clients, because these people will eventually turn 65. The numbers contained in our report are up to date for that period. Since then, other people

Veterans Affairs committee  Nothing was done officially that has actually, that was at that point in time.... The first official enhancement to the charter was Bill C-55. From 2006 until 2011, changes might have been brought about—changes to process, changes in other areas of administration—but the charter

Veterans Affairs committee  That was brought about with Bill C-55? I would say offhand it would be the permanent impairment allowance supplement, because of access to PIA. The permanent impairment allowance provides income after 65. That's probably one of the best ones that was brought about there. The othe

Veterans Affairs committee  I think you're quite right. Having the quality and the quantity of people to manage programs and to deal with people is important, and it's always something we look at. I can't talk about personal circumstances or personal situations, but our office exists for that purpose, so

Veterans Affairs committee  Gary was just dying to hear that question.

Veterans Affairs committee  Let's be very clear here that the lump sum is intended for pain and suffering. It's not intended for investment. This is what has actually created a lot of arguments out there with some soldiers. They more or less look at that as a sum of money that they're supposed to invest to

Veterans Affairs committee  It's there for pain and suffering, so—

Veterans Affairs committee  Because it is a benefit.

Veterans Affairs committee  It has to be considered a benefit, but it's a lump-sum award given for pain and suffering, the same as given by a court or by any workman's compensation board.

Veterans Affairs committee  Well, it's very hard, of course, for me to comment. As I've mentioned many times before, we're obviously an evidence-based organization. For any personal situation and anything that is factual, if people want to contact us, we will work to try to resolve it. If there are negative