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Finance committee  Nobody has convinced me otherwise, Mr. McLeod.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. McLeod. I mean, yes, absolutely, I would agree with you, as I have with other speakers, that workers are under a tremendous amount of pressure during this time, for various reasons, of course. On the statement that there's a backlog of programs that can't be de

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  It's demoralizing to the members. It's demoralizing to the employees when they see that sort of thing happening. Would it have caused job loss? No, I wouldn't go so far as to say that. But still, to see work that is currently being done, very similar work, being contracted out is

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  There is certainly capacity within the public service to have done that, to have reached out to organizations on the ground.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  I'm not going to speak to the capacity of WE Charity. I can't speak—

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. Contrary to what you just said, there is capacity within the federal public service, absolutely. Unless somebody can demonstrate to me why the Prime Minister made that statement, that WE Charity was the only organization able to carry this out, then I'm so

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  Yes, for sure—or simply turn this program over to ESDC.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  There are a number of programs for students that are currently being administered by the federal public service that do that type of work. I would defer to my technical expert who is with me, my technical resource, Mr. West. If he is on the line, he could provide a better answer

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  Okay, maybe Mr. West is not with us. That's okay. Mr. Poilievre, I can't give you specific programs that would do that, but as I said, I do know there are several programs administered within the federal public service that address student issues.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  I think, as you just said, that public servants, including those working from home, are able to deliver these programs seamlessly. I don't know what the basis of your statement is that we don't have the capacity within the public service to reach out to those charitable organizat

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  Absolutely. I think this pandemic, for everybody, has certainly added just a little bit more pressure. Working from home and still having to be very productive and deliver programs, without an opportunity to walk walking down the hall or down a flight of stairs to talk to your co

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  Yes, thank you. I can do nothing but agree with you. When you look at the timing and everything else about this, it is extremely unusual.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  You are no more perplexed than I am, Mr. Cumming, for sure. It is very perplexing. As for how this whole thing transpired from the creation in April to the announcement in June, as I said, here we are three months later, and still with really no concrete program in place out th

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  It's never too late to make it right. Hopefully, this will be done right and done by federal public sector workers.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward

Finance committee  I agree.

July 21st, 2020Committee meeting

Chris Aylward