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Foreign Affairs committee  Was the question on how we can improve the Magnitsky act and SEMA?

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  Again, we're focused mostly on export controls, but there is certainly overlap with sanctions there. We would bring it back to transparency. If there are instances where Canadian officials have investigated alleged violations of sanctions busting, this is very serious stuff. Tha

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  That list is a mechanism whereby a state is listed and everything that goes to that country can only be sold, basically, with an export permit. There's certainly merit in that idea, if we wanted to look at stopping the provision of anything to Russia. This is quite a blanket appr

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  We might refer to it as "knowledge transfer", and this is actually a permanent activity. Training would come under knowledge transfer. Any sort of conversations that you and I would have would be knowledge transfer, as well as things like the transfer of intellectual property.

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  It would have to be for a military end use. I am not familiar enough with the company to give an informed answer on that in particular. Certainly if it's for military end use, then yes, it should be deemed controlled—absolutely.

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  I would say yes, when there is the political will to do so.... Very quickly following Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, Canada announced a position. As far as I understand, this wasn't legislated. This wasn't a regulation, but a new position that Canadian officials were going

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  Certainly sanctions are necessary in many of the instances where Canada has leveraged them. In other instances, Canada has failed to leverage sanctions and has continued to provide a huge amount of weapon systems to countries that are known to misuse them. The prime example here

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  Another would be the UAE. Certainly the UAE has been shown to have a callous disregard for the protection of human life throughout its bombing campaign in Yemen. The newest annual report on military exports was tabled last week on May 31, so we have all the new data on Canada's

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  I would again look back at means to enforce the current controls that we have. We know there are Canadian companies, or companies with Canadian connections, that are openly busting sanctions. Any effective export control regime would find every means possible to interrupt those v

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  Thank you for the question. It's the export controls division that was referenced. I don't know the current size of the latter enforcement mechanism mentioned. It—

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  Sure, there is merit in the suggestion, particularly as they would sometimes be looking at certain things. The export controls division doesn't operate vis-à-vis sanctions the same way that other organisms of the Canadian government do. When Canadian officials are looking at whet

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  To start off, with regard the RCMP, this is clearly another instance where there's not enough transparency. I'm assuming that it's the same instance of an RCMP investigation of this company. If my memory serves me, we only learned about this through the press. There should really

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  With brokering, it's hard to say. This is not a new problem, but it's a new set of controls. The Arms Trade Treaty, which made brokering a regulated act, at least for ATT-state parties, only recently celebrated its 10th anniversary since entering into force. This is relatively ne

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  Dual-use goods are somewhat of a hot topic right now. It's because of the war on Ukraine. Russia and other states are seeking dual-use goods because their supply chains have been cut off. Going back to our recommendations.... We really don't know the extent of this problem becau

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher

Foreign Affairs committee  I would say that Canadian officials should look at systems right now that are actually not deemed to be dual-use but certainly are. These are sometimes referred to as “commercial off-the-shelf” items or COTS items. These are actually marketed as such to suppliers because supplier

June 8th, 2023Committee meeting

Kelsey Gallagher