Declaration of Emergency committee  Again, I would refer you to that report, which sets out the reasons the government had to invoke the act.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I can refer you to the threats of violence when police tried to apply the laws and bring order. We have reports of those. There are reports of—

Declaration of Emergency committee  I'm not sure I understand your question.

Declaration of Emergency committee  In light of the report that was provided for in section 58, it is clear that the situation seriously endangered the lives and the health and safety of certain Canadians, including the economic health of a number of Canadians, because of the border blockades. Under the Act, it cou

Declaration of Emergency committee  I think it depends who you ask the question to. I definitely had more conversations with the RCMP than the Ottawa police, but I believe the RCMP had more conversations with the Ottawa police than it had with me. What I participated in were regular briefings that involved the RC

Declaration of Emergency committee  No, I did not, but I know the RCMP spoke to those forces.

Declaration of Emergency committee  That's not what I said. What I said is that I participated in daily briefings that involved a number of departments and agencies, which briefed us on what was happening on the ground on a daily basis.

Declaration of Emergency committee  It was a conclusion of the government, based on all of the information they were seeing, which was being updated basically on a daily basis as we were getting debriefs from law enforcement on what was happening in Ottawa, Windsor, Coutts, Emerson, Fredericton, Halifax, etc.

Declaration of Emergency committee  It's difficult for me to say whether they were failures of police, because I—

Declaration of Emergency committee  They were having a difficult.... You know, people were not leaving Ottawa. That was the conclusion, despite efforts and several plans they tried to put into effect. With the help of the OPP, they managed to get people out of Windsor and to open that corridor. They still had diff

Declaration of Emergency committee  Personally, I did not, but I know that the department did have some conversations with the city solicitor's office in Ottawa and with the Ontario attorney general—not his office but the ministry.

Declaration of Emergency committee  Yes...with the city as well.

Declaration of Emergency committee  That consultation, as we were drafting orders, did take place directly with the RCMP. What we were trying to do was figure out what would be helpful to bring an end to the occupation and the blockades.

Declaration of Emergency committee  I think what resulted was the orders we did have. You've heard from the commissioner that these were helpful in bringing an end to the occupation and blockades, so yes, they were.

Declaration of Emergency committee  First, I would note that it isn't the Department of Justice that enforces laws, it's the police forces across the country.