Evidence of meeting #10 for Access to Information, Privacy and Ethics in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was mulroney.

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Hon. Brian Mulroney  P.C., As an Individual

10:10 a.m.

P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

It was $75,000.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

And it was in cash?

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P.C., As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I was wondering what type of bills were used.

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

It was in $1,000 bills.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

What did you do with this $75,000?

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

I put into a safe in the house.

As I mentioned, Mr. Ménard, I didn't touch any of it, because I used only a very small amount of this money to cover the expenses I incurred on this international mandate.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

So you saw this amount as an advance...

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P.C., As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

... a cash advance.

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P.C., As an Individual

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Why did you put it into a safe? I imagine you felt you had earned this money. Why did you not invest it?

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

We were staying in l'Estérel. I put it into the safe and when we moved back to Montreal, I did exactly the same thing.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

You put it in a safe.

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

In our home in Montreal.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

How long did you keep it there?

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Until the matter was settled. As I mentioned in my opening statement, I had to pay my expenses, and after I concluded that our relationship was over, I paid myself some compensation for my professional work.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Did you keep a record of your work?

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Yes, I spoke about that.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

It's true that you spoke about it. So you had some system of accounting or time sheets, then.

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

No, I didn't have any accounting system for that, but as you know, Mr. Ménard, I was travelling around the world. For example, I met with the leaders of the government in China, in Russia and in France, as well as some U.S. leaders. The purpose of these trips was the same as the one that I mentioned earlier, during which I met with Mr. Yeltsine.

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Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

It's precisely what I'm trying to understand.

You had $75,000 in cash in a safe. You were travelling around. Did you regularly dip into the safe to pay for your trips?

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

Not at all, I paid everything using my credit cards. This was just part of the cost, it was not the full cost. I was a lawyer in Montreal. When I travelled to China, Russia or elsewhere, I did so for a number of clients. I used credit cards only, and in the end, I calculated a very modest amount for Mr. Schreiber's work. The rest of the cost was paid for either by my office, or by my clients or by myself.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Did you keep any notes on the amount that you attributed to him? Where did you keep track of that?

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P.C., As an Individual

Brian Mulroney

At that time, I had the records with me. For example, I gave President Yeltzine a file on the matter of international sales...