As I mentioned earlier, we actually have about 1,100 people. In fact, Martin was one of the 470 people who were laid off. He is working in this contract 10 years later and is now the general manager of our contract. That seems to me to be quite a success story.
For me, the answer is that we operate more than 100 million square feet of space across Canada. We are able to afford to invest in systems and processes and development of people, and for me, that's better value than the government spending its money on that.
I can't make the comparison of what the federal Department of Public Works saves on this. That's probably a useful question to ask the department.