Evidence of meeting #56 for Human Resources, Skills and Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Elizabeth MacPherson  Director General, Labour Program, Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, Department of Human Resources and Social Development
Marc Toupin  Procedural Clerk

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Can we get a recorded vote, please?

(Clause 1 agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4)

(On clause 2)

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Does Mr. Silva wish to move page 5, which is the Liberal motion 3?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

We're not moving page 5 at all, nor page 6.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

So we're not going to move amendment 3, which is on page 5. We're not going to move amendment 4, which is on page 6.

We'll go to the next amendment, which is the NDP-1, which is on page 7.

Ms. Davies, do you want to move that motion at this time?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

Before that, I think we needed to move the Liberal amendment for proposed subsection 94(2.1) where it says “For the duration of a strike or a lockout”.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

We need to have the amendment. What is the amendment?

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

It's just a clarification, Mr. Chair. It says “Subject to section 87.4”.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Whereabouts?

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

Right after proposed subsection 94(2.1), it should say “Subject to section 87.4, for the duration of a strike or lockout”. It's just a clarification.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

“Subject to section 87.4”.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

“Subject to section 87.4, for the duration of a strike or lockout declared in accordance with this Part”. It becomes very clear in relation to that part.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Okay, so that becomes line 15.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

There has been some confusion about the whole issue around the maintenance of activities and essential services. We want to make sure that it refers back to part I of the Canada Labour Code, which deals with the issue with section 87.4.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

In front of proposed subsection 94(2.1), line 15 in clause 2, we add “Subject to section 87.4”, just before “for the duration of a strike or lockout”.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Lynne Yelich Conservative Blackstrap, SK

So section 87.4.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Is it proposed paragraph 94(2.1)(c)?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

No, it's proposed subsection 94(2.1), right after proposed subsection 94(2.1) on line 15. You'll see the line numbers in the centre of the page.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Lynne Yelich Conservative Blackstrap, SK

I would like an explanation of that. He says that it goes back to part I of the Canada Labour Code. Does he mean it's subject to that? I just want a little more clarification.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

I'd like to thank Mr. Silva for the motion.

I just need to remind the member that this committee passed a motion that all amendments would be in by noon on Wednesday. This is not one we had before us.

I would ask the committee, though, because it is a bit of housekeeping, if they would consider unanimous consent. That is the only way we can add any additional amendments that are here at this time.

Mr. Silva.

4:15 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, I want to also refer to the House of Commons Procedure and Practice , where on page 652 it clearly states: “Although a member who intends to move amendments to a bill does not have to provide notice, the normal practice is for the member to communicate with the Chair and clerk”. But they don't have to provide notice for their amendments. That is in the procedural rules.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

Hold on one second.

Go ahead, Mike.

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

I just want to clarify this, though. Did we not move a motion in a previous meeting that actually did set out a timetable for these amendments to be presented?

4:15 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

For amendments, that is correct. Just give me one second, please.

Although I wanted to make reference to the fact that it was a motion we carried, I believe this is administrative, so I'm going to let the ruling stand and we can add that and we can have some debate on whether that—

4:20 p.m.

Liberal

Mario Silva Liberal Davenport, ON

I can clarify things a little bit, Mr. Chair.

If you look at proposed paragraphs (a), (b), and (c) in proposed subsection 94(2.1), proposed paragraph (c) says “subject to section 87.4”. So all I'm doing is referencing right at the beginning so everybody is clear that all of these provisions are subject to section 87.4.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Dean Allison

All right.

And once again, I want to mention that we will need unanimous consent to add any additional motions. I believe this is administrative in nature, so I'm just going to say let's have a conversation on it.

Ms. Davies.