Evidence of meeting #49 for Industry, Science and Technology in the 41st Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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MPs speaking

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Thao Pham  Vice-President, Operations, Canada Economic Development
Luce Perreault  Director General, Departmental Finances Branch, Canada Economic Development

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Be very brief.

11:55 a.m.

Vice-President, Operations, Canada Economic Development

Thao Pham

Absolutely.

Treasury Board also published figures recently. So the information has been made available.

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NDP

Hélène LeBlanc NDP LaSalle—Émard, QC

Mr. Regan made the same request earlier, Mr. Chair. Can that information be sent to the committee members as well?

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you, Madame LeBlanc.

11:55 a.m.

Vice-President, Operations, Canada Economic Development

Thao Pham

I can't comment on that. We will send you an answer to that question later.

11:55 a.m.

Director General, Departmental Finances Branch, Canada Economic Development

Luce Perreault

Unfortunately, I again have to refer you to the agency's Web site.

It provides additional information on the expenditure review by program activity. It lists how we are contributing to the deficit reduction by year and by program activity.

11:55 a.m.

NDP

Hélène LeBlanc NDP LaSalle—Émard, QC

Thank you very much, Ms. Perreault.

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Director General, Departmental Finances Branch, Canada Economic Development

Luce Perreault

My pleasure.

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NDP

Hélène LeBlanc NDP LaSalle—Émard, QC

Thank you, Mr. Lebel.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you. We're way over time on that one.

Now we'll go to Mr. Lake for five minutes.

November 27th, 2012 / 11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I am starting in French, so I can practise speaking.

That's it. It was very brief, très bref.

Thank you for taking the time to come here today. I want to use the opportunity, me being an Alberta member of Parliament and you being a Quebec minister, to address some of the issues that have been quite prominently raised over the last week.

One of the things I've always appreciated about working with my Quebec colleagues on the Conservative side is our ability to work together to try to solve issues of common interest across the country. I've been very concerned about some of the discussion over the last few weeks, even over the last year, from the opposition members. The leader of the NDP, for example, referred to the strength of the Alberta economy as a disease. The prospective leader of the Liberal Party made the suggestion that Albertans are somehow not suitable to—

Noon

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Go ahead on a point of order, Mr. Harris.

Noon

NDP

Dan Harris NDP Scarborough Southwest, ON

I know that we have wide latitude as to what we can ask ministers, but I'd certainly ask the member to refrain from mischaracterizations of our leader's comments. He did not refer to any part of an economy as a disease. He made mention that part of our economy was suffering from an economic condition, not a medical one.

Noon

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you, Mr. Harris. Unfortunately, that's not a point of order. That's a point of debate.

Mr. Regan, I hope yours is more closely related to procedure.

Noon

Liberal

Geoff Regan Liberal Halifax West, NS

Yes, Mr. Chairman. We are talking about the estimates, and I haven't heard anything yet related to the estimates.

I know that there were three byelections. They're over now, so let's stick to the estimates. Thank you very much.

Noon

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you, Mr. Regan.

Well, as Mr. Harris said, we have a lot of latitude here. Maybe Mr. Lake will listen to some of those comments and continue with discretion.

Noon

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

Honestly, I really appreciate the attempted clarification of their leader's and their prospective leader's comments regarding Alberta, because I think some clarification is probably needed.

That said, if I could, what I'd like to discuss is cooperation and working together. I had the opportunity to visit Quebec in the spring with a group of Alberta business leaders. The Alberta Enterprise Group worked with Quebec business leaders to bring a mission of business people to Quebec to talk about shared interests and how they could work together to build the strength of the Canadian economy. They came to Montreal first, met with some business leaders there, and then travelled to Quebec City and met with some business leaders there.

Of course, as we've discussed, there are some real challenges in the Alberta economy that have a real impact on the Canadian economy. There is a real shortage of workers, to the tune of hundreds of thousands. One of the solutions, which the business people in Alberta and the business people in Quebec realize, is that it doesn't necessarily mean that we have to move workers across the country. To some extent, we can work together to take advantage of the expertise that exists in Quebec. Alberta companies that need supplies to further the economy of the country can really rely on that expertise located in Quebec to help build the Canadian economy in general.

Maybe you could comment on those skills, that expertise, that exists in Quebec that could be shared with the rest of the country to our common advantage.

Noon

Conservative

Denis Lebel Conservative Roberval—Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Thank you, and I will let you continue to practise your own French with my answer.

I would be pleased to answer in French, so you can keep practising, Mr. Lake.

You are absolutely right, honourable member. Ours is an integrated economy. Every part of the country contributes to the economy, and all those parts have to keep working together. The Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec has supported a number of businesses that provide their services nationwide, including, of course, companies involved in oil sands extraction in Alberta. For us, that is part of the value chain and one of the benefits of having a large country with such a diverse range of economic opportunities.

Quebeckers may have seen TV ads featuring major bus maker Prévost Car, among others. The company's success extends beyond Quebec and Canada. Its reach includes the United States. Prévost Car has sold dozens upon dozens of buses to Alberta for the transport of oil sands workers in and around Fort McMurray.

That illustrates just how interconnected the whole country's economy is. Being part of a large country is an advantage. Having all of its economic engines working together is also an advantage.

Noon

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Go ahead, Mr. Lake.

Noon

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

It is incredibly important for Quebeckers and Albertans to work together for the sake of the country as a whole.

Noon

Conservative

Denis Lebel Conservative Roberval—Lac-Saint-Jean, QC

Thank you for speaking French, Mr. Lake. It's a pleasure for me, and a number of members here today.

Many people do indeed work all over the country and go back home to their families afterwards. Open economies and globalization move products and workers alike.

Our mandate is to support business development in every region to create jobs. And that's what we will continue to do.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Noon

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Thank you very much, minister.

We will now suspend for three minutes and allow the minister to leave. Then we'll continue with questions for the officials.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

Welcome, members. We're back in session now.

We'll continue our rotation. The next questioner—

Go ahead, Mr. Lake.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Lake Conservative Edmonton—Mill Woods—Beaumont, AB

In the rest of the meeting, rather than going with the traditional succession of five-minute turns, although I don't know how many questions people have, maybe whoever is ready to ask can just ask questions. I don't think we have a ton of questions right now that we need to ask, so opposition parties may want to free-flow a little bit.

12:05 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative David Sweet

I presently have Mr. Blanchette, Mr. Wallace, and Mr. Harris. If you want, maybe we can leave it open after that.

Do you want to do that?