Evidence of meeting #11 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was case.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lynda Clairmont  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Emergency Management and National Security, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Daniel Therrien  Acting Assistant Deputy Attorney General, Citizenship, Immigration and Public Safety Portfolio, Department of Justice
David Dunbar  General Counsel, Canada Border Services Agency
Warren Woods  Senior Policy Analyst, Operational Policy Section, National Security Policy Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Roger Préfontaine
Joann Garbig  Procedural Clerk

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Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Yes, I just have a question. I understand that “the bar of a province” would include territories, too.

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General Counsel, Canada Border Services Agency

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay. Is there any other discussion?

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Just a moment. I haven't finished reading.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Yes. I will not incur your wrath. Go ahead.

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Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Mr. Cullen, do you have a comment?

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Liberal

Roy Cullen Liberal Etobicoke North, ON

It's not immediately occurring to me what the difference is between the line currently in the bill and this line. They look identical to me.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Is anybody ready to comment?

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Liberal

Roy Cullen Liberal Etobicoke North, ON

Oh, it has the number.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Yes, the numbering is different.

Only the numbering is different, Monsieur Ménard. There is no difference, only the numbering. I understand it's the (1).

9:45 a.m.

Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

I agree in principle.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

All those in favour?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

I have to notify you that on lines 6 and 12 of the French text, we're going to change défenseur to avocat spécial, just to be consistent with what we have said previously.

There are no more amendments.

(Clause 4 as amended agreed to)

(Clauses 5 to 10 inclusive agreed to)

(On clause 11)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Madame Faille.

December 7th, 2007 / 9:45 a.m.

Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

I have a question for the officials on Clause 11.

The Clause lists a number of courts and tribunals, such as the Federal Court of Appeal, the Immigration Division, the Immigration Appeal Division of the Immigration and Refugee Board, but there are other review bodies within the Board.

Will these bodies be listed? I know that there are bills pending on the Immigration Appeal Division. Presently, appeals are allowed only on the immigration side. But in the case of a non-citizen, of a person claiming refugee status...

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Did one of our officials get the question?

Mr. Dunbar is looking at it carefully. Let him just examine it for a moment.

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Warren Woods Senior Policy Analyst, Operational Policy Section, National Security Policy Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness

If I understand the question correctly, you're looking at clause 11 of the transitional provisions and you're wondering why the Refugee Protection Division of the Immigration and Refugee Board is missing from this provision.

We are talking explicitly about division 9 of IRPA, and division 9 relates to the use of proceedings before the Federal Court and before the IRB that involve the use of confidential information. These proceedings, during the use of confidential information, exist at the Immigration Division of the IRB and at the Immigration Appeal Division of the IRB, but they do not take place during proceedings at the Refugee Protection Division. So that's why it's not listed.

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Bloc

Meili Faille Bloc Vaudreuil—Soulanges, QC

Thank you.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay.

(Clauses 11 and 12 agreed to)

9:50 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

So “défenseur” will be replaced with “avocat spécial”.

Shall the title as amended carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Shall the bill as amended carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Shall I report the bill as amended to the House?