Evidence of meeting #11 for Public Safety and National Security in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was case.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Lynda Clairmont  Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Emergency Management and National Security, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Daniel Therrien  Acting Assistant Deputy Attorney General, Citizenship, Immigration and Public Safety Portfolio, Department of Justice
David Dunbar  General Counsel, Canada Border Services Agency
Warren Woods  Senior Policy Analyst, Operational Policy Section, National Security Policy Directorate, Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Roger Préfontaine
Joann Garbig  Procedural Clerk

9:25 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Are you talking about G-4?

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Yes. If you are able to successfully deal with that, then there would be no need to deal with this.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

With consent of the committee, we can.

There's no objection? Let's go to G-4, then, page 14 of your draft....

You have to move it and then we'll discuss it.

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Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

If we can add “administrative support and resources”....

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay. There's a subamendment coming up to G-4, but first introduce G-4, please.

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Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

I'd like to ask one question: does it have to be amended if we add words to it as we introduce it? Does it have to be introduced in the manner in which it is?

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Yes, and then you can amend it, if you want--or my amendment; it doesn't really matter.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Sir, you can move it and add some words.

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Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Okay.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

It does not have to be a subamendment if, while you're moving it, you put in those words.

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Conservative

Dave MacKenzie Conservative Oxford, ON

Okay. The motion is:

The Minister of Justice shall ensure that special advocates are provided with adequate administrative support and resources.

9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Ujjal Dosanjh Liberal Vancouver South, BC

Period.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Make that change on your copy, everybody, so you know.

Okay, so now we're debating that amendment as introduced here.

December 7th, 2007 / 9:25 a.m.

Liberal

Roy Cullen Liberal Etobicoke North, ON

Call the question.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Any questions?

Monsieur Ménard.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

What was bound to happen happened.

Two more “défenseur“ were forgotten along the way. There is one on line 18, page 7, and another one between lines 26 and 27.

Could you take it for granted that every time the word “défenseur“ appears in French, it will be changed to “avocat spécial“?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Yes.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

So we do not need to...

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

I was going to do that a little later on in the meeting. We will make that note and I can do that. It's on lines 19, 29, and 34 of the French text.

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Bloc

Serge Ménard Bloc Marc-Aurèle-Fortin, QC

Sometimes it also is a plural.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay.

Does the committee agree with making those changes Mr. Ménard has drawn our attention to in this clause?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

Absolutely.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative Garry Breitkreuz

Okay, it's agreed. There are no objections.

Now, let's go back. The question is on G-4.

All those in favour, please raise their hand.

9:30 a.m.

Liberal

Sue Barnes Liberal London West, ON

As amended?