I think everyone on this panel would agree that, yes, we do see now that we're at a turning point with this fuel coming back into transportation, as you say. It is going to happen. I think the question for Canada is whether we want it to happen in a one-off way. For instance, we have Robert in the east and Vedder Transport in the west and now some St. Lawrence ferries. That's fantastic. What comes with those projects is significant capital investment, and of course jobs involved in making that equipment and installing it.
I think the big question is whether we want this to sort of gradually happen, or do we want a more concentrated buildup of this infrastructure, similar to having other infrastructure built?
We do not see any role for the government in infrastructure. We know that there's a lot of private capital that's ready to move into this market, but the conditions have to be right. In that context, we do not see that the consumer market is right. As I mentioned, we see that as a next phase. We really do see that we have to get going first on the trucks and buses. We have to address those capacity issues, which we're working on right now. And we need to create the right conditions for that private sector investment. It will happen gradually.
I'll give you another example. The other interesting opportunity here is marine, particularly in the Great Lakes and on the west coast. We know that investment in an LNG facility can serve both heavy trucks and marine. But right now a lot of the players are sort of waiting to see how the pieces are going to fit together. Natural gas in marine, in particular, has significantly lower emissions compared to the very high sulphur fuel used in the vessels now on the Great Lakes and in the St. Lawrence.