Evidence of meeting #18 for Transport, Infrastructure and Communities in the 41st Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was transport.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Jamal Hematian  Vice-President, Product Engineering, National Steel Car Limited
Richard Boudreault  Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers
Max Vanderby  Director, Production Engineering, National Steel Car Limited

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

No, it's my time. I didn't interrupt you when you had your 10 minutes. I'm just asking if you've heard that term. No? So you—

10:35 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

I'm not going to say the answer you want me to answer.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

It isn't about wanting—

10:35 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

The thing is that Transport Canada, Mr. Chair—

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

No—

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Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

Transport Canada, okay—

10:35 a.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

Mr. Boudreault, you're out of order.

10:35 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

The safety board pronounced on that themselves—

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I'm asking you—

10:35 a.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Point of order, Mr. Chair.

10:35 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I'll get to you when I think it's a point of order.

I asked something specifically because you said that in there, and the reason that I'm asking this.... Whether you agree with one or two or whatever is not the point that I'm getting at here. In all early reports on the Lac-Mégantic thing, and God only knows none of us ever want to see that happen again.... But there were rules put in place...that if the gentleman who was looking after that train had put on the 11 brakes that he should have under the laws that were there, it probably wouldn't have happened. You know, we'll never be able to probably judge that completely—

10:40 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

Mr. Chair, there is no conclusion, okay?

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

No, no. That's right, I never—

10:40 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

This is your conclusion, okay? This is not the report of the BST right now.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

True. I never—

10:40 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

The report has not been—

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

I'm not suggesting that it was.

I'm just saying that probably it wouldn't. I think we could all say that.

10:40 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

That is your opinion, Mr. Chair.

10:40 a.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

On that point of order, Mr. Chair?

10:40 a.m.

Area Coordinator, District 5 (Québec), United Steelworkers

Richard Boudreault

That is your opinion.

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

You had a point of order, Mr. Mai?

10:40 a.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

Yes. With all due respect, Mr. Chair, I think that so far since I've come to this committee, having sat on the finance and justice committees, I find it a bit surprising coming from the chair to be as partisan and, quite frankly—

10:40 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Larry Miller

It's not partisan, Mr. Mai.

10:40 a.m.

NDP

Hoang Mai NDP Brossard—La Prairie, QC

—to ask a question to a witness and tell him or her, “Answer yes or no”. We've never done that even as partisan—