Thank you, Madam Chair.
Thanks to the committee for undertaking this important study.
My name is Karim Bardeesy. I'm the executive director of the Dais, a policy and leadership think tank at Toronto Metropolitan University looking at the key digital drivers to shared prosperity and citizenship for Canada. In this conversation and throughout the time I'll be drawing a bit on our policy and opinion research that we've done in this space by the Dais and our predecessor of the organization, the leadership lab at Ryerson and TMU, since 2019.
I understand there's particular interest in some of the freedom of expression issues as they pertain to current Canadian legislation before Parliament at the moment, so I'll touch a bit on that, in particular the online harms act, which is before Parliament.
We know that expression on online platforms is bounded by a few things: by the charter, potentially by this prospective piece of legislation, and by the activities of people on the platforms as well as the choices and the algorithms of the platforms themselves.
I've just come back from Washington, D.C., from the Summit on the Future of the Internet, which was brought together by a number of players who are interested in the space. The technology that is moving, that empowers the incumbent platforms, in particular the incumbent social media platforms, to be ever more choiceful about the algorithms and what's being presented to people online continues to get more powerful. However, I think it's really important for this committee to remember that the charter is still the ultimate defender of freedom of expression, and that the online harms act, while being pretty specifically carved out to a few key sets of harms, is still in deference to the charter.
You're probably aware that the online harms act refers to seven categories of harms, with an exemption for private messaging platforms. We think the remedies that are proposed in that bill by and large are the right ones: the tabling of a digital safety plan and take-down provisions for the most egregious harms.
We believe at the Dais and in the civil society community that's following this really closely that freedom of expression can very successfully coexist with this proposed piece of legislation, and that it's important that Canada look to govern the online space appropriately in a targeted fashion while being respectful of our fundamental rights and freedoms. I'll note that Canadian public opinion in favour of action in this space is strong and growing. Some of our research finds that the desire for legislative action to counter deepfakes has increased now to a 68% level in our survey. This is a survey we've done pretty much every year since 2019.
The Canadians who are concerned about what's happening online acknowledge that it's.... Forty-six per cent of Canadians believe that the people who are producing content online are primarily responsible for the content, and 49% of them believe that it's the platforms themselves that have the responsibility to fix the problem. A plurality of Canadians believe that people who are making the content online are responsible for the problem, but a plurality of Canadians believe that it's the platforms themselves that have the responsibility for fixing the problem. That doesn't happen on its own. It happens through the give-and-take, the social licence that these platforms have with their users and with the countries in which they operate, but there's also a potential role for targeted legislation. We believe, at the Dais, based on our research, that the online harms act does a good job, in a targeted way, of dealing with the most egregious harms and of helping to set up a more healthy and safe online ecosystem for everyone.
I gave my presentation in English, but I'm happy to answer questions in English or in French.