So when the detainees were handed over before, at least before 2007--and I'll talk about after 2007, after the change in the agreement--it was handing over detainees and then it was very difficult to monitor. The military's position was that they didn't have any role in that.
And when we talked to people from DFAIT who were responsible for working with the Afghan Independent Human Rights Commission, they had a real problem--and Mr. Mulroney had to deal with this--in terms of knowing how many were transferred, where they were, or what the conditions were. So it would be nearly impossible to know if anyone was mistreated or abused. Is that the case?