Evidence of meeting #49 for Agriculture and Agri-Food in the 45th Parliament, 1st session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

Members speaking

Before the committee

Mariage  Director, Small Business, Tourism and Marketplace Services, Department of Industry
Wilson  Legislative Clerk

Daniel Gobeil Liberal Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC

Yes, I can read it again: Within 18 months after the day on which this Act comes into force, the minister must prepare a report on the results of the consultations carried out pursuant to subsection 3.

While I have the floor, I'd like to take this opportunity to say, in response to Mr. Barlow's comments, that this is not an amendment without results. However, since this is, ultimately, a process in which the provinces and territories are asked to work together on an issue and sit down at the same table, if there were no results within 18 months, a report could be submitted.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

Okay.

4:20 p.m.

Conservative

Jacques Gourde Conservative Lévis—Lotbinière, QC

The exact words weren't there, but if they were repeated twice, they'll probably be added. I see it says “carried out under,” but Mr. Gobeil said, “conducted pursuant to.” It may not make much difference, but there might be an error in our documents. That's not what's written in the document I received. If the government members said “pursuant to,” it may be that their documents say “pursuant to.” I don't see the words “en application” in the French version.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

Okay. Are there any other comments? No.

Shall G-2 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

BQ-10 seeks to change the department responsible for publishing reports to the Department of Agriculture and Agri-Food. If BQ-10 is adopted, it may be incoherent in the bill. That's just a note.

Monsieur Lemire.

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

Given the stinging defeat I suffered with amendment BQ‑1, I will not be proposing amendments BQ‑10 and BQ‑11, in order to maintain consistency with the positions previously passed by the committee.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

Okay. That's great. Thank you so much.

We're now going to a vote on clause 4 as amended.

Mr. Louis.

Tim Louis Liberal Kitchener—Conestoga, ON

Can we suspend for a minute, so that I can catch up?

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

Absolutely.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

I'll bring the meeting back to order. We're on clause 4.

Shall clause 4 as amended carry?

(Clause 4 as amended agreed to)

(Clause 5 negatived)

Next is G-3. I'll turn it over to Mr. Gobeil to comment.

Daniel Gobeil Liberal Chicoutimi—Le Fjord, QC

Thank you.

The amendment proposes that Bill C‑226 be amended by adding the following after line 32 on page 2:

Coming into Force 6 This Act comes into force on the first anniversary of the day on which it receives its royal assent.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

Is there any discussion on G-3?

(Amendment agreed to)

Shall the short title carry?

An hon. member

[Inaudible—Editor]

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

No. G-3 is new clause 6, so we don't have to vote on that. That was a good catch, though.

Shall the short title carry?

Some hon. members

No.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

Just so you know where we are—then I'll turn it over to you, Mr. Lemire—I was just going to go into the title section and ask whether G-4 shall carry. That's where I was going to go.

I'll turn it over to you.

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

I just want to make sure that amendment G‑4 will be adopted. Have we debated this amendment? It's not clear to me.

Some hon. members

No, not yet.

Sébastien Lemire Bloc Abitibi—Témiscamingue, QC

So, we can't adopt the short title if we haven't yet included amendment G‑4, since amendment G‑4 deals with the short title, right?

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

That's correct. G-4 is what we're on now.

Shall G-4 carry?

I'll wait for Mr. Lemire. He's having a conversation. I just want to make sure he's....

Mr. Barlow.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

This is what I'd mentioned earlier. I would like some rationale from maybe my government colleagues. I'm referring to the difference between “respecting the development of a national framework” and “to establish a national framework”. You're changing those words.

To me, “establish” means it's going to happen, while “development” means this could go on. Now, I know you've added the 18 months, as in the previous amendment, but to me, “development” means this could go on for an indefinite amount of time. There's no impetus on the government to actually establish this national framework.

To my Liberal colleagues, I'm just curious to know why it was changed from “establish” to “development”.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

That's a question that's been put to the committee. Unless someone wants to answer it—

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

It's their amendment.

The Chair Liberal Michael Coteau

Yes.

Marianne Dandurand Liberal Compton—Stanstead, QC

I guess originally it was “establish”.

4:25 p.m.

Conservative

John Barlow Conservative Foothills, AB

It was “establish”. You're changing it to “development”.