Evidence of meeting #18 for Canada-China Relations in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

David Vigneault  Director, Canadian Security Intelligence Service
Brenda Lucki  Commissioner, Royal Canadian Mounted Police
Shelly Bruce  Chief, Communications Security Establishment
John Ossowski  President, Canada Border Services Agency
Rob Stewart  Deputy Minister, Public Safety Canada
Clerk of the Committee  Ms. Marie-France Lafleur
Holly Porteous  Committee Researcher

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Thank you, Mr. Williamson.

Now, at the beginning I asked for members' agreement to take 15 minutes at the end to discuss the report of the subcommittee. I have more members on my list, so I will ask, are there members who have problems with the report of the subcommittee as is? The question would be whether we can adopt it quickly. Does anyone have an issue with the report as is?

I think Mr. Genuis does.

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

I don't have a problem. I would just like to move that we adopt the subcommittee report and the work plan.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Thank you.

Is anyone opposed to this motion?

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Discussion, discussion.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Okay. If we're going to have discussion, it may take.... We won't be able, perhaps, to have the witnesses anymore.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

I thought we had decided we were going to take the last part of the meeting to discuss this.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

That's right. I was just seeing if that was avoidable. That's all.

Mr. Harris, you're certainly entitled to discuss it. I thought maybe members would prefer.... If members wanted to just adopt it, it would be possible to keep the witnesses. As that doesn't appear to be possible, I think what I should do is excuse the witnesses.

Do you agree, Mr. Harris? What I'm proposing to do is to excuse and thank the witnesses, and then we'll go on to the discussion of the subcommittee report.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Okay.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Thank you very much to the witnesses.

We very much appreciate the testimony we have heard from you today.

Mr. Chong has a point of order.

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Yes, Mr. Chair. On just a very short point of order, I received some evidence today that I wonder if I could submit to you through the clerk. It concerns our study.

I was given it today. It's essentially what newspapers call a “wrap”. It was part of the Canadian edition of Ming Pao Daily News, and it relates to foreign interference operations here in Canada. It was essentially a wrap around Ming Pao Daily that lists an individual in Canada, their birthdate, passport number and Chinese citizenship identification number.

I wonder if I could submit that to you as part of our study, through the clerk, so that it could be distributed to members of the committee.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Of course, it would have to be translated. I presume it's only in one language at the moment.

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Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Yes. It's all in Chinese.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Let me consult with the clerk on that and we'll see whether we can receive it. If so, I'd be delighted to and see if we can get it translated and distributed to the committee, obviously in both official languages.

Thank you very much for that.

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Thank you.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Again, witnesses, I thank you very much for your appearance this evening, and I wish you a good night.

8:15 p.m.

Commr Brenda Lucki

Thank you.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

Emmanuel Dubourg Liberal Bourassa, QC

Thank you for coming.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

I'm going to go on now to Mr. Harris in relation to the discussion of the subcommittee report as presented.

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NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

Yes, I—

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Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Pardon me.

Mr. Chair, on a point of order, it's my motion we're discussing, right?

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

That's correct.

8:15 p.m.

Conservative

Garnett Genuis Conservative Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan, AB

Okay. Thank you.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Mr. Harris, go ahead.

8:15 p.m.

NDP

Jack Harris NDP St. John's East, NL

I'd better plug in my headphone, because I cut out for a minute.

8:15 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Geoff Regan

Yes. No doubt the interpreters will appreciate that.