Evidence of meeting #33 for Canada-China Relations in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was japan.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Excellency Kanji Yamanouchi  Ambassador of Japan to Canada
Shihoko Goto  Director, Asia Program, Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, As an Individual
Yuki Tatsumi  Co-Director, East Asia Program, The Henry L. Stimson Center, As an Individual
Rory Medcalf  Professor, Head, National Security College, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University, As an Individual

9:20 p.m.

Professor, Head, National Security College, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University, As an Individual

Rory Medcalf

I'm not sufficiently...across the details, including in Australia, to really comment authoritatively on how well we could or should coordinate on the forced-labour issue, other than to say that, for example, in the Australian policy debate, it probably has receded in the last few years as a headline policy issue. Certainly, there are strong voices, particularly in Parliament and across the political spectrum, who continue to be very concerned about forced labour in China and particularly for the Uyghur community.

I would say that building and maintaining more prominent cross-parliamentary collaboration and dialogue publicly would be one of the best contributions that all our countries could make to keeping this issue alive. I don't think that, in a policy sense, the Australian government is retreating on these issues. For example, I mentioned our modern slavery legislation and how effective Magnitsky laws are on the books. However, I think the Australian government has been careful to pick its battles in the way it expresses concerns openly to China. I don't think that's a sustainable situation in the long run.

I think it makes sense, for the short term, to stabilize the relationship, but as the case of Dr. Yang Hengjun has reminded us, there are going to continue to be instances where the Chinese state's affronting behaviour is going to challenge our core values and national identities. We need to be ready for that.

I think, in a way, democracies have to be patient with one another in public, but privately, they have to be working pretty frantically behind the scenes to prepare those coalitions for the next crisis.

9:25 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Thank you very much.

9:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken Hardie

With that, Professor Medcalf, we thank you for your time. It was very illuminating. It was good to hear from down under. We hope to get to one of your opposite numbers, if there is such a thing in New Zealand, and to some of the other nations there as well. We appreciate your time and thank you for your contribution today.

9:25 p.m.

Professor, Head, National Security College, Crawford School of Public Policy, Australian National University, As an Individual

Rory Medcalf

Thank you. It's my pleasure. I wish you all the best.

9:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken Hardie

Thank you.

With that, we are concluded. I want to thank the clerk, the analysts, our interpreters and our support staff for all of the work that they've done.

The meeting is adjourned.