Evidence of meeting #6 for Canada-China Relations in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was relations.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Harry Ho-jen Tseng  Representative, Taipei Economic and Cultural Office in Canada
Scott Simon  Professor, University of Ottawa and Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

8:55 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

You spoke about our relations and the fact that Japan has an important role to play in that. You spoke about how Japan has taken a sort of leadership role on this. What other countries should we be predominantly working with to continue that work, in addition to Japan, of course?

8:55 p.m.

Professor, University of Ottawa and Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Scott Simon

I think there are other countries in the area where we have a large diaspora—for example, the Philippines and Vietnam. I think those countries should be priorities.

Another area where we have a special role to play would be in Oceania. Because of our French and English heritage, we can communicate with the people in those countries.

8:55 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Do you have any other comments before we conclude this evening?

8:55 p.m.

Professor, University of Ottawa and Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

Dr. Scott Simon

No. Thank you very much. I think it's very important to recognize that we already have a relationship with Taiwan that's independent of our relationship with the People's Republic of China, and we have to keep working with that in mind.

8:55 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Thanks for coming today and sharing all of these perspectives with us.

8:55 p.m.

Professor, University of Ottawa and Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute, As an Individual

8:55 p.m.

NDP

Heather McPherson NDP Edmonton Strathcona, AB

Mr. Chair, that's all for me.

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken Hardie

Thank you, Ms. McPherson.

Dr. Simon, thank you very much for attending this evening. It's getting late, and we appreciate your time very much.

We will now pause, and for people on Zoom, there's a link being sent right now. We will be back in a couple of minutes for a brief in camera session.

Yes, Mr. Chong.

8:55 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

I have a point of order. At the beginning of the meeting, our witness, Dr. Medeiros, was supposed to appear but couldn't. It seems there was a miscommunication between the technicians who tested his equipment earlier and what was required for this committee. I just want to make sure that the inconsistency is not there next time so we don't have to deny a witness their time.

8:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken Hardie

Yes, in that respect, Mr. Chong, we were pushing the boundaries of what was acceptable audio from Dr. Medeiros. We did a test early. It was marginal, but we consulted with our interpreters and decided, especially given the risks they are facing, that it would be better to ensure that Dr. Medeiros had the proper gear. We'll invite him back.

9 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Can I just make a suggestion? We should make it the default rule for all witnesses that they have the proper gear.

9 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken Hardie

It is the default rule. Again, given some difficulties we spoke about before with getting witnesses to appear at our committee at this time of the day, we thought we could do it, but at the end of the day, we could not, which is why Dr. Simon had to carry the panel all by himself.

I appreciate your intervention on that. I think our lesson is learned that without the proper gear, the person will not attend.

9 p.m.

Conservative

Michael Chong Conservative Wellington—Halton Hills, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

9 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Ken Hardie

We will take a break, and we'll be back in camera in just a moment.

[Proceedings continue in camera]