Evidence of meeting #12 for Canadian Heritage in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was council.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Marion Ménard  Committee Researcher
Michael Dewing  Committee Researcher
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Richard Dupuis

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

The most we could be doing right now would be voting on the amendment, which is to strike “at its earliest convenience”. We are not voting on the motion as amended, because if this passes, I'm going to propose another amendment.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Okay. The amendment is that we strike “at its earliest convenience” from the motion. That's the amendment.

(Amendment agreed to)

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

I'd like to speak to the motion, please.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Mr. Del Mastro.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

I'd like to add after the word “appear” the words “as soon as possible”.

The reason I feel it's critical that we hear from them as soon as possible is that I think they have testimony that this committee should be prepared to hear as soon as possible. If they're not prepared to hear it as soon as possible, I'd like to know what their agenda is with not wanting to hear from them. We're here anyway. Let's ask them to be here as soon as possible so that we can hear what they have to say.

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Mr. Chair, didn't we just rule on this? This is getting--

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

We did not just rule on this.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

We've been going back and forth a little bit here.

4:40 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Call the question.

4:40 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

There's been an amendment made by Mr. Del Mastro to the motion that after “calls to appear”, we add “as soon possible”.

(Amendment negatived)

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Ms. Glover, please.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

Mr. Chair, as a new member of Parliament, I am in awe that we, as parliamentarians who have a job to do for Canadians, are opting to do it half-assed and we're attempting to put forward a report that we all understand is not complete.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

That's not in your motion.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

My amendment is that we have a special meeting to invite the Canada Council here to meet with this heritage committee to provide the details and information that they have to provide that is relevant to this study.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Chair, that's another motion. We have a motion. You can't just start freeforming motions.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

If you want to refer to the original proposed motion, we could add after “to appear” the words “in the week of April 20”.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Can we just vote on the motion, Mr. Chair? They're freeforming now.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

We're not freeforming. This is how the committee works, Charlie.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Shelly Glover Conservative Saint Boniface, MB

You spoke six times and I spoke twice.

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

We voted on the motion. We voted on “as soon as possible”, “at the earliest possible convenience”, and now it's April 20. Can we just vote on the motion that we're going to bring the Canada Council?

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Gary Schellenberger

Okay.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

All right, Charlie, I get it. You don't want to hear from the Canada Council in the timeframe that would actually--

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

No, I'm totally supportive of that.

4:45 p.m.

Conservative

Dean Del Mastro Conservative Peterborough, ON

No, you're not fully supportive, because you don't want to hear from them during a timeframe where we might be able to quote what they have to say--

4:45 p.m.

NDP

Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON

Is this going to be a ten percenter in my riding, Dean?