Evidence of meeting #128 for Canadian Heritage in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was amendment.
A recording is available from Parliament.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Right now, we are discussing several subamendments, and I would like to clarify things.
Mr. Deltell, could you include all the changes you are proposing in one subamendment? Then we could go back to Mr. Nantel's subamendment. We must first vote on the second subamendment, then on the first subamendment.
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Conservative
Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC
Give me time to read it again because there may be others.
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Edmonton Centre, Lib.
Madam Chair, I would like to clarify something for Mr. Deltell.
The amendment suggests a new wording in line 5 on page 2 in the French text. The full word is “fiduciaires”. If you look at the bill, you'll see that the letters “ciaires” follow “fidu–”, which are at the end of line 4. So the text of our amendment as presented is reliable. A subamendment is therefore not necessary at this point.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
You can discuss it amongst yourselves.
I will ask Mr. Nantel to clarify his subamendment. That way, we can vote on this one first.
Mr. Nantel, could you clarify your subamendment?
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NDP
Pierre Nantel NDP Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC
I'll try to avoid troubling everyone, so we don't bang our heads against the wall.
I discussed it with Mr. Saganash, and we will withdraw our subamendment that calls for it to be consistent with the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
However, I would like to tell you that we plan to present a subamendment to point 3(a). I just want to make sure we talk about it. It's hard to follow. We have some changes to propose to the Liberal amendment with respect to this element. So it will be another subamendment that we will discuss, perhaps after Mr. Deltell's.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Okay, the first one is withdrawn.
Our legislative clerk will speak to you.
Mr. Deltell, have you found all the mistakes in French?
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Conservative
Gérard Deltell Conservative Louis-Saint-Laurent, QC
They are not mistakes but rather clarifications.
I am fully aware that the second subamendment was not relevant, because—
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Edmonton Centre, Lib.
It's the same thing for clause 3(e) of the bill. Between lines 16 and 20, the word “autochtones” appears twice, and each time, we see the beginning of the word “au-” at the end of a line. In our amendment, it is written in one word, without a hyphen.
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Julie Dabrusin
Okay.
The two subamendments that we have discussed are now removed.
We will now move to another subamendment regarding point 3(a) I believe. Our legislative clerk is just checking.
Mr. Clerk, can you read the words so that everyone knows what we are talking about?
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Legislative Clerk
I am trying to understand what Mr. Nantel wants to do.
He would like to amend paragraph (b) of amendment LIB-3, which proposes the following wording:
acquire or reacquire Indigenous human remains or cultural property;
Is that correct?
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NDP
Pierre Nantel NDP Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC
I was talking about point 3(a), but you're right, I think it's 3(b). Perhaps we made a mistake.
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Legislative Clerk
You were talking about subclause 3(a) of the bill, correct?
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NDP
Pierre Nantel NDP Longueuil—Saint-Hubert, QC
Yes, that's right. That's why we would like to introduce this as a subamendment as we consider the Liberal amendment.
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Legislative Clerk
So we are talking about paragraph (b) of amendment LIB-3.